Originally posted by Berean Todd
Since, I like so many of you Open Theists, including you Knight, I have tried to back out of the OT/OV debates and just keep my peace about that in these parts. But I really am curious your thoughts about 2 scriptures I came across, incidentally in my normal Bible study time, which made me think of the OV debates, and particularly you.
Psalm 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;
And in Your book were all written
The days that were ordained for me,
When as yet there was not one of them.
The OV claims either that there is no foreknowledge, or that the foreknowledge is only of the possibilities that there are. Yet this passage says that God knew the numbers of our days, before there was yet one of them. Please tell me how you interpret this passage.
Acts 17:26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
The existance and formation of nations is dependent on a great number of variables. For one brief illustration, imagine that during D-Day Hitler had not had a brain fart - the allies would have been slaughtered and the Nazi's may well have won. In the least things would have been much different. Yet, this passage says that God has appointed both the times and the boundaries of nations - more than that, it says that He pre appointed them, again something that would seem to indicate a foreknowledge of how those events would turn out. Again, please tell me how you interpret/quantify this passage.
In Christian love,
Todd
Since, I like so many of you Open Theists, including you Knight, I have tried to back out of the OT/OV debates and just keep my peace about that in these parts. But I really am curious your thoughts about 2 scriptures I came across, incidentally in my normal Bible study time, which made me think of the OV debates, and particularly you.
Psalm 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;
And in Your book were all written
The days that were ordained for me,
When as yet there was not one of them.
The OV claims either that there is no foreknowledge, or that the foreknowledge is only of the possibilities that there are. Yet this passage says that God knew the numbers of our days, before there was yet one of them. Please tell me how you interpret this passage.
Acts 17:26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,
The existance and formation of nations is dependent on a great number of variables. For one brief illustration, imagine that during D-Day Hitler had not had a brain fart - the allies would have been slaughtered and the Nazi's may well have won. In the least things would have been much different. Yet, this passage says that God has appointed both the times and the boundaries of nations - more than that, it says that He pre appointed them, again something that would seem to indicate a foreknowledge of how those events would turn out. Again, please tell me how you interpret/quantify this passage.
In Christian love,
Todd
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