Wow! That ball is gone!
Folks, I don't hear that baseball coming down anywhere. No one expected the rookie to vaporize the ball. We'll have to keep our eyes on this one. :thumb:
That was one incredible post, way 2 go--keep up the good work.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by IMJerusha
Yeshua stated that only he who does His Father's will will be in heaven. Yeshua stated that those who show no fruit will be lopped off. Follow that with what Yeshua said in His revelation to John. Revelation 14:12 as well as Revelation 22:14. We don't get to claim the blood of Yeshua and then cheapen God's grace by running around doing whatever we please. Recall what Yeshua said to the church in Ephesus, Revelation 2:6 and to the church of Pergamum, Revelation 2:15. Yeshua is talking about those people who have cheapened God's grace.
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Israel showed no fruit and was cut off
Rom 11:15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?
so you partially right
Rom 11:24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
eventually God will resume his plan for Israel .the book of revelation is all about Israel not about gentile Christians
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Some did, apparently. Two didn't even die. Elijah got to go in style! Mary found favor with God as well. Yeshua lived up to it completely. I think we were too lazy, too rebellious. What sort of God would put commands before us that we could not keep? </td></tr></tbody></table>
Rom 7:13 Then has that which is good become death to me? Let it not be! But sin, that it might appear to be sin, working death in me by that which is good; in order that sin might become exceedingly sinful by the commandment.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
I am presenting that those saved by grace will not be judged by the law. </td></tr></tbody></table>
That's great but that's not exactly what Scripture states. Then what will we be judged by? According to Yeshua we will be judged by our fruit and fruit is obedience to that which God wrote on our hearts, evidence of Ruach HaKodesh. God reveals Himself to us through the Law and His Law points to Yeshua. We are not to exchange the truth about God for a lie. Consider Romans 1:26-32 "Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts. In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.Because those people refuse to keep in mind the true knowledge about God, he has given them over to corrupted minds, so that they do the things that they should not do. They are filled with all kinds of wickedness, evil, greed, and vice; they are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, deceit, and malice. They gossip and speak evil of one another; they are hateful to God, insolent, proud, and boastful; they think of more ways to do evil; they disobey their parents; they have no conscience; they do not keep their promises, and they show no kindness or pity for others. They know that God's law says that people who live in this way deserve death. Yet, not only do they continue to do these very things, but they even approve of others who do them." This is prophecy through Paul and he is paraphrasing God's commands. Why can't we read the signs? </td></tr></tbody></table>
your reply is speaking to unsaved people
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> So explain why Yeshua tells folks to get out because He doesn't know them? They knew Him;. </td></tr></tbody></table>
because Pharisees are not saved by heritage or by keeping the law
John 8:39 They answered and said to Him, Abraham is our father. Jesus answered them, If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham.
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John 8:44 You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Only those who do God's will will be in heaven. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the works of the Law.
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> True that but those who are in Yeshua are obedient. Those who are not in Yeshua are not obedient. They show no evidence of Ruach HaKodesh because they feel that honoring God and doing His will is too burdensome. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Do you mean keep the law?
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> This is true but Yeshua judges us by our obedience to God's will, the evidence of our fruit. We don't have the license to sin through Yeshua. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Rom 3:8 ..., (as we are wrongly accused, and as some affirm that we say), Let us do bad things that good may come? Their condemnation is just.
Rom 11:6 But if by grace, then it is no more of works; otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it is of works, then it is no more of grace; otherwise work is no more work.
which is it works of the law or grace?
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<table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> The Law is based on obedience, honor and love. It is perfect and written for us. We were not created for the Law. God's grace through Yeshua covers us when we stumble, not when we deliberately disobey. </td></tr></tbody></table>
what happens if you deliberately disobey?
Folks, I don't hear that baseball coming down anywhere. No one expected the rookie to vaporize the ball. We'll have to keep our eyes on this one. :thumb:
That was one incredible post, way 2 go--keep up the good work.
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