ECT Three Notes on the Apostles Teaching from Acts 5

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The few lines of Acts 5 that tell us what Peter was preaching are an interesting condensed version of the longer Acts 2 and 3. In some ways, this makes things more clear.

1, It's always interesting to hear what the audience thinks. The summary provided by the leaders of Judaism is that the apostles were 'trying to make them guilty of the death of Christ,' v28. That's what the audience thought, not the intention of the apostles:

2, The summary provided by Luke here is the opposite, v31. What had taken place was actually for Israel's repentance and forgiveness. Along with this we see that God raised Christ (his body did not vanish by way of the apostle's tricks) and Christ was made Prince and Savior of Israel, in case some are afflicted with 2P2P and think that is for later. We also see that he is placed at the right hand of God, as a reminder that Ps 110 has taken place as well. We also see that this is the predicted outpouring of the Holy Spirit, whose purpose is to proclaim this message further and further. The Spirit, for Israel, does not mean the land gets restored etc. It is the mission of Christ.

3, All of the above content is the 'good news that Jesus is the Christ/Messiah.' v42. It is great news that there is forgiveness through these things, but also if you say this in 1st century Judea, it is great because it dissolves the hazard of agitating the country into a destructive revolt. That had been the topic of Gamaliel. What he was saying was that the hostility between zealot groups and the leaders had only proven to get worse when the leaders clamped down on them. The leaders concern, like Caiaphas earlier, was that the whole country would erupt in revolt. The Christian apostles had their own difference with Judaism's leaders but not for the purpose of 'leading a revolt' like Judas the Galilean.
 
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It is condensed and therefore clarifies what the other Acts passages said. D'ists have done well to keep their mouths shut, because they will only muck it up by their comments.
 

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Peter took the time to say in this short summary that Christ was the Prince. What does that tell you?

Was he supposed to say, "He's the Prince and there is a golden age coming sometime in the next X000 years when he/we will rule the earth with the race of Israel--so don't be too offended by this 'by faith' stuff; we don't mean it personally. But that golden age will also collapse, too, so no big deal there."
 

SaulToPaul 2

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Peter took the time to say in this short summary that Christ was the Prince. What does that tell you?

Was he supposed to say, "He's the Prince and there is a golden age coming sometime in the next X000 years when he/we will rule the earth with the race of Israel--so don't be too offended by this 'by faith' stuff; we don't mean it personally. But that golden age will also collapse, too, so no big deal there."

Huh, rambler?
 

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1, It's always interesting to hear what the audience thinks. The summary provided by the leaders of Judaism is that the apostles were 'trying to make them guilty of the death of Christ,' v28. That's what the audience thought, not the intention of the apostles:

Made up, as usual.


Acts 5
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 

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You've mucked it up quite well all by yourself.




Unless you have details, I have no idea what you mean. Why would this short summary extol Christ as the "Prince" of Israel, not as some item in old history books, but that he was made that in the resurrection?


I wish you and your thankers would say what you have vested in Israel's land being restored. You as christians are supposed to have it vested in the Gospel and resurrection of Christ. You need to watch out what your affections are grounded in.
 
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One summary of Hebrews is: there always has been (from eternity) a priesthood that was greater than the Levitical model found in Israel's history, which was for the sake of introducing or picturing the eternal one. The Gospel that has come is about the eternal.
 

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The Gospel that has come was the eternal priesthood, the eternal covenant; it is the reason heaven sings 'worthy is the Lamb that was slain,' and else speaks of him as the Lamb slain since the foundation of the world, because that risk was always known.

There is no song about worth is the Lion that reconquers Judea.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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The Gospel that has come was the eternal priesthood, the eternal covenant; it is the reason heaven sings 'worthy is the Lamb that was slain,' and else speaks of him as the Lamb slain since the foundation of the world, because that risk was always known.

There is no song about worth is the Lion that reconquers Judea.

Made up.


"After those days, I WILL MAKE..."
 

DAN P

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It is condensed and therefore clarifies what the other Acts passages said. D'ists have done well to keep their mouths shut, because they will only muck it up by their comments.


Hi and that is how you silence opposition , keep theit mouths shut !!

So , what does the the Greek word PRINCE / ARCHEGOS mean ?

Those who are to REPENT are those Jews in Acts 3:19 and 20 , so when will you REPENT !!

dan p
 
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