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Angel4Truth

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glorydaz said:
I understand totally, dear Angel. That was certainly a past wrong.

The present wrong being perpetrated by Rusha rivals anything I have ever seen, and it's against more than one man on this board.
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I dont know about that, i would have to see it. Since you admittedly didnt see all of it back then, perhaps you dont know how bad it was.

Anyone who stalks others, merits a wary attitude from others especially when they come in and declare they are not who they really are, that is suspect in itself since it makes one wonder if that kind of thing will continue.
 
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Rusha said:
Indeed ...



Actually he only admitted it after a friend asked him why he was acting in such a manner. At that point, he became irate with her because he had been outed.



I know that, you know that ... everyone knows it. However, I was given a warning that was accompanied by a claim stating he is a new user.

BTW, did you know that according to this *new* user, Tam is also a feminist. :plain:

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According to :that: "new" user, nearly all women are feminists.
 
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Rusha said:
Correction: You made MANY new accounts, denied them, acted out until they banned. In the Woodshed, it was *stated* you were a completely new user even though YOU admitted you were in fact Voltaire/Delo/BOLCAT, etc.
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Does he admit to being BOLCATS? I'd like to see a quote, if anyone has one.
 
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Only about 18% of the population are actually feminists.

They aren't nearly the general consensus they think they are, which is just another deceit out of the big myriad of them that feminism is.
 
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Angel4Truth said:
I dont know about that, i would have to see it. Since you admittedly didnt see all of it back then, perhaps you dont know how bad it was.

Anyone who stalks others, merits a wary attitude from others especially when they come in and declare they are not who they really are, that is suspect in itself since it makes one wonder if that kind of thing will continue.
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THAT is exactly it. I am wary because it keeps happening with the same posters ... they return and it starts again.

You, as well as a few others, are familiar with the wording, phrases, accusations and POV's of those we are speaking.

The only point being made in this whole deny, blame and excuse game is that labels and beliefs do not matter. IF someone wishes claim they use to be a Muslim but is now a slimy, horned butterfly, who are we to question their honesty?
 
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1PeaceMaker said:
Does he admit to being BOLCATS? I'd like to see a quote, if anyone has one.
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Nope ... his IP and mannerisms gave him away. However, since he admitted his ID to you, he has also admitted lying about the past ID's he was banned under. Now, if he truly wished to give this a new start, he could quit painting himself as a victim. He was a willing participant who couldn't control his temper.
 
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Angel4Truth said:
I dont know about that, i would have to see it. Since you admittedly didnt see all of it back then, perhaps you dont know how bad it was.
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True.

Anyone who stalks others, merits a wary attitude from others especially when they come in and declare they are not who they really are, that is suspect in itself since it makes one wonder if that kind of thing will continue.
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True also. CS came in while you were still here...on the first rape thread. His mistake was siding with Doser and me and you. Neither you nor I were very well liked by the crowd, as I recall. That continued after you left, and the very fact that CS was on the wrong side brought out the wolves. It was when they figured out who he was that they turned their fangs on him like rabid dogs.

I'd say he's gotten more than his just deserts....especially since he was contrite....many times over. It didn't matter to Rusha. Just as it doesn't matter to those who hate Doser no matter what he says. Just as they hate me. It's no wonder I see what they do to CS...they do the same to me.

At the moment, Rusha is being careful about what she says about me....because YOU are here. Believe me...you've missed a lot. I have no doubt, though, that you will do what you know to be right and not allow the opinions of others to sway you.

I'm just glad you're back. We need all the common sense fair minded posters we can get. :)
 
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Rusha said:
Nope ... his IP and mannerisms gave him away. However, since he admitted his ID to you, he has also admitted lying about the past ID's he was banned under. Now, if he truly wished to give this a new start, he could quit painting himself as a victim rather than a willing participant who couldn't control his temper.
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I think bolcats was 1pms or her husband eloyhims account but they allowed dolo to use it to back each other up in debates.

Easy to see if you read some exchanges in this thread:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110096&page=38
 
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ok doser said:
i agreed because I recognized that you are using a definition of "deserve" that implies justness and appropriateness
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All definitions of the word deserve imply justness and appropriateness.

ok doser said:
i still think he earned what he got as the consequences of poor choices he made
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I disagree. A mentally ill prisoner suffered unjust consequences for his actions because the prison guards were evil.
 
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ok doser said:
it was, apparently, common practice (and known by the inmates) that the discipline/punishment for behaving like this was to be thrown into an uncomfortably hot shower (i'm sure there were other punishments as well - denial of privileges, etc)
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According to one news report:


Instead of following protocol and notifying mental health staffers to intervene, the lawsuit contends the two correctional officers resorted to “torture and retaliated against a mentally ill inmate on the unit.”

It’s called “shower treatment.” A specific shower stall was apparently “altered or broken” and sprayed “scalding hot water” in a locked area where inmates “cannot control the pre-set water or the water temperature.”

How long an inmate is kept in the shower is determined by the omnipresent guards, the lawsuit states.

“Once placed inside, inmates cannot leave the shower unless released by the officers.”

On this day it was allegedly Rainey’s turn to get the shower treatment.

With Rainey defecating and not in his right mind, Officers Clarke and Thompson “maliciously and sadistically turned on scalding hot water in Rainey’s shower in retaliation for [his] smearing feces on his body and cell,” the lawsuit claims.

The guards apparently taunted Rainey but, according to fellow inmate Mark Joiner, they disregarded Rainer’s screams, before taunting him. “He was crying, ‘Please stop, please stop, please stop,’” Joiner told the Herald.

The last words Rainey ever heard were said to be, “Enjoy your shower.”​


I guarantee you that you will not find a written policy authorizing that unlawful punishment.

ok doser said:
given the facts of the case as given (in the other thread) what would you say he deserved?

IOW, what does elo say would have been a just punishment/discipline/reaction to his behavior?
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If he was mentally ill, I would have followed the procedures for dealing with mentally ill inmates. I would escort him to a shower that worked properly and allowed him to clean himself up, then I would have given him a new orange jumpsuit. Meanwhile, the custodial staff or inmate workers would have cleaned his cell.

If he was not mentally ill, I would still escorted him to a properly working shower, etc. The difference is that I would charge him with whatever class of misconduct he committed according the jail rules. In this case it seems like he would have been guilty of creating a health hazard and creating a disturbance. Those would be handled according to administrative rules that include a hearing.


ok doser said:
would it have been a just response to throw him in an uncomfortably hot shower?
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Would your response have been that or what I suggested as an appropriate response?
 
elohiym

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ok doser said:
i understand that you believe this is so...
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The dictionary definition of deserve all its synonyms imply a sense of justice.

You claim you are using a definition of deserve that does not imply justness. Using your definition: Do you deserve God's grace?

By reading the Bible or however you ended up believing the gospel, didn't you earn salvation by your actions, thus deserving it according to your alleged definition?
 
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elohiym said:
The dictionary definition of deserve all its synonyms imply a sense of justice.

You claim you are using a definition of deserve that does not imply justness. Using your definition: Do you deserve God's grace?

By reading the Bible or however you ended up believing the gospel, didn't you earn salvation by your actions, thus deserving it according to your alleged definition?
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No, certainly not God's grace, we did nothing to deserve it. Nor did we do anything to earn salvation.
 
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