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Danoh

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Trump’s Secrets Surfacing After Revelation Russian Ambassador Was Sneaked Into Trump Tower

By Sarah Jones on Fri, Mar 3rd, 2017 at 2:40 pm

White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders was asked why the Trump administration is just now revealing the meeting with Russian Ambassador Kislyak that took place at Trump Tower and if he used a different door since the press didn't capture his visit.

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http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03...n-ambassadors-smuggled-visit-trump-tower.html
 

jgarden

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What if the Russian ambassador were to say that the Trump Campaign approached him seeking Putin's help to sabotage the 2016 Presidential Election - America would be thrown into such a constitutional crisis that would make Watergate seem pale in comparison!

Whether it was true or not is immaterial , the repeated denials of clandestine meetings and Trump's strange praise of Putin have placed the American public in the unenviable position where half are now willing to believe the word of the Russian ambassador over that of their own President!

Unlike Nixon, Trump would cling to power to the bitter end and take America down with him!
 

pondsbb

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This happened after election during transitions with Trump's son in law.

Many diplomats were met with. It was their job. Just like Sessions was doing his job at the time.

Who knows why the press didn't notice. Maybe they were busy rubber necking the many protesters.

The press and Democrats are determined to make something out of nothing. That is not self sabotage.

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Trump is avoiding the media because they're a bunch of liars who can't be trusted.

This is further evidenced by the fact that as soon as they can't squirm their way into every tiny thing Trump does, they start making the same ridiculous conspiracies and scandals as you all are doing now.

Part of being the President is handling certain things privately- it is not a reality show, despite your derogatory statements toward him as a media personality.

Get a grip, grow up, go away. Pick one- you're all turned into a bunch of gossiping school girls :wave2:
 

katiecrna

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Did President trump say he did not talk to any Russians? If meeting with the Russian ambassador wasn't a secret the why lie?
 

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Don't buy the Left's selective reporting and selective outrage.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulro...l-leads-to-democratic-lobbyists/#248b936d3991

The media’s focus on Trump’s Russian connections ignores the much more extensive and lucrative business relationships of top Democrats with Kremlin-associated oligarchs and companies. Thanks to the Panama Papers, we know that the Podesta Group (founded by John Podesta’s brother, Tony) lobbied for Russia’s largest bank, Sberbank. “Sberbank is the Kremlin, they don’t do anything major without Putin’s go-ahead, and they don’t tell him ‘no’ either,” explained a retired senior U.S. intelligence official. According to a Reuters report, Tony Podesta was “among the high-profile lobbyists registered to represent organizations backing Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich.” Among these was the European Center, which paid Podesta $900,000 for his lobbying.


That’s not all: The busy Podesta Group also represented Uranium One, a uranium company acquired by the Russian government which received approval from Hillary Clinton’s State Department to mine for uranium in the U.S. and gave Russia twenty percent control of US uranium. The New York Times reported Uranium One’s chairman, Frank Guistra, made significant donations to the Clinton Foundation, and Bill Clinton was paid $500,000 for one speech from a Russian investment bank that has “links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.” Notably, Frank Giustra, the Clinton Foundation’s largest and most controversial donor, does not appear anywhere in Clinton’s “non-private” emails. It is possible that the emails of such key donors were automatically scrubbed to protect the Clinton Foundation.

Let’s not leave out fugitive Ukrainian oligarch, Dymtro Firtash. He is represented by Democratic heavyweight lawyer, Lanny Davis, who accused Trump of “inviting Putin to commit espionage” (Trump’s quip: If Putin has Hillary’s emails, release them) but denies all wrongdoing by Hillary.


"But that's different," whined fake Danoh.
 

Danoh

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Don't buy the Left's selective reporting and selective outrage.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulro...l-leads-to-democratic-lobbyists/#248b936d3991




"But that's different," whined fake Danoh.

I often post that the extreme that is the so called left, and the extreme that is the so called right...are BOTH corrupt.

But you are an extremist; your distortions in the service of your dishonesty is to be expected.

Then again, contrary to the words of Apostle Paul himself; whom you and yours claim to follow - you and yours within your grace-less grace gospel of grace toward anyone who does not agree with you - you do hold your actions will not be held to your account one day.

In the sight of God; you bigot.

2 Corinthians 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
 

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God administers His will through men. Libbie Christians have no concept of that- did all those swords in the Bible fall from the sky, or were they swung from men's arms?

I think you all might want to keep it secular, just as you do with any moral issue :wave2:
 

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jgarden

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God administers His will through men. Libbie Christians have no concept of that- did all those swords in the Bible fall from the sky, or were they swung from men's arms?

I think you all might want to keep it secular, just as you do with any moral issue :wave2:
The Bible doesn't provide many examples of narcissistic, womanizing, casino owning billionaires who don't ask for repentance of sins, as God's chosen messengers to the world!
 

pondsbb

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The Bible doesn't provide many examples of narcissistic, womanizing, casino owning billionaires who don't ask for repentance of sins, as God's chosen messengers to the world!
You don't understand the role of Cyrus in the Bible.

With that senario in mind, the messenger to the world is Christ through the church. Trump is just the means for the church to be able to expand and relay the message.

God works in mysterious ways.

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jgarden

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You don't understand the role of Cyrus in the Bible.

With that senario in mind, the messenger to the world is Christ through the church. Trump is just the means for the church to be able to expand and relay the message.

God works in mysterious ways.

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Bible Verses About Forgiving Sins

1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

James 5:16 - Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Mark 11:25 - And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

2 Chronicles 7:14 - If My people, which are called by My name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Luke 6:37 - Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Donald Trump is on the record that he does not repent and ask for God's forgiveness which is a fundamental requirement in becoming a Christian..

Conservative Christians have placed themselves in the unenviable position of defending a president who doesn't adhere to basic Christian principles - presumably because he doesn't sin!
 
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Originally Posted by jgarden
The Bible doesn't provide many examples of narcissistic, womanizing, casino owning billionaires who don't ask for repentance of sins, as God's chosen messengers to the world!

You don't understand the role of Cyrus in the Bible.

With that senario in mind, the messenger to the world is Christ through the church. Trump is just the means for the church to be able to expand and relay the message.

God works in mysterious ways.


You're not the first who has compared Donald the Degenerate with Cyrus. You might want to read up on biblical history before you do so again:

Cyrus was a leader of tremendous military ability and high moral and ethical values;

http://www.bibleresearch.org/articles/a2pws.htm
 

pondsbb

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Donald Trump is on the record that he does not repent and ask for God's forgiveness.

Conservative Christians have placed themselves in the unenviable position of defending a president who doesn't think he needs to ask for forgiveness of sin - presumably because he doesn't sin!
I believe Hillary and Obama are all secular and at least Trump is open about it. I won't defend his wrongs.

I do believe it is God that leads us to repentance.

Romans 2:4 KJV
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

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I believe Hillary and Obama are all secular and at least Trump is open about it. I won't defend his wrongs.

I do believe it is God that leads us to repentance.

Romans 2:4 KJV
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

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This is just 40 days into his tenure - how long will conservative Christians be willing to make excuses for this president and hope against hope that he will live up to their expectations?
 

pondsbb

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This is just 40 days into his tenure - how long will conservative Christians be willing to make excuses for this president and hope against hope that he will live up to their expectations?
I'm not making excuses. If he does something where he needs to be locked up, then do it.

Pence will then takeover, and the Christian Church will still have a platform to pray in the White House.

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The Bible doesn't provide many examples of narcissistic, womanizing, casino owning billionaires who don't ask for repentance of sins, as God's chosen messengers to the world!

Kind David murdered a man to conceal his adultery, Noah was an alcoholic, Solomon was an idolater.

The list goes on.
Find me a leader who is free of sin :idunno:
 

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Kind David murdered a man to conceal his adultery, Noah was an alcoholic, Solomon was an idolater.

The list goes on.
Find me a leader who is free of sin :idunno:

You won't find any man that is free of sin, but you won't find biblical characters such as the above promoting sinful behavior like Donald Trump does either.
 
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