ECT Ever wonder why dispensationalism has become increasingly despised?

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john w

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(Heb 10:37 KJV) For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.


What does "a little while" mean?

What does "land...nations...heathen.............................." mean?


Haggai 2:6 NIV “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘In a little while I will once more shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land."


When was Haggai written?


Let me guess: Darby....Not literal....Figurative....Fulfilled in Christ/AD 70..Darby....Not one person in the history of mankind can answer me......

Does that about cover all angles?
 

Danoh

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More desperation from Danhoh the Darby follower because Danoh the Darby follower cannot defend Dispensationalism when tested with scripture.

Tell ya what Darby scorned incompetent - cite a writing prior to Darby that genuinely mentions a Pre-Trib Rapture; and we'll play with that.

That's just one; before Darby; and is actually talking about a Pre-Trib Rapture; not some one's notion that was what was being written about.

Here is a clue - its a writting that even anti-dispensationalists have had to admit was about a Pre-Trib Rapture.

You're so enamored with writings out side of Scripture; let's see what your supposed expertise can dig up.
 

ClimateSanity

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Paul made it crystal clear that he was living during the culmination of the ages.

Paul's statement lines up perfectly with the statements from Peter, John, James, and the writer of Hebrews, about the end of the ages, last days, etc.

Paul believed that, but he was mistaken.
 

john w

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Tambora is a Darby follower who
has never
proven me wrong on anything.
Add that one to his over 10 "I have never said"'s, then proven a liar, and his...

"Not one person on TOL and/or in the history of mankind can prove/has proven me wrong, or can answer/has answered my questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

We are in denial.
 

Danoh

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Um... Paul did not receive ALL of God's revelation for him instantaneously (just like most of the prophets). God's revelation has ALWAYS been given to mankind progressively.

2Cor 12:1 (AKJV/PCE)
(12:1) It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.

Apparently Paul even knew that more was TO COME.

I'm curious, bro, what's your understanding of Ephesians 3's "as I wrote afore in few words..."
 

john w

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More desperation from Danhoh the Darby follower because Danoh the Darby follower cannot defend Dispensationalism when tested with scripture.

More desperation from Craigie pie the Stuart/Hanegraaf follower because Craigie pie the Russell/Josephus/Hannegraaf follower cannot defend AD 70-ism/Preterism m when tested with scripture.

You are in denial.
 

Danoh

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Since you refuse to believe that God gave any unique revelation to Paul, there is no hope of you understanding anything anyway.

Makes me wonder why you're here annoying everyone. Why aren't you on a preterist site?

I suspect they don't want him on their sites.

He is their version of MAD gnat Jerry Shugart; remember?
 

john w

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How can you be so dumb?

(Obadiah 1:1) This is what the Sovereign Lord says about Edom

It was judgment on Edom.

In the OT, "the day of the Lord" was always judgment on a nation.

Did the sweetie address my question, and defend his"argument?"

Nope.

When were the passages written, Lamont?


Ezekiel 30:3 KJV For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

Joel 1:15 KJV Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.

Obadiah 1:15 KJV For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

Zephaniah 1:7 KJV Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.

Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;


"How can you be so dumb?"-Craigie

There is our sweet, nice, actress Craigie, complaining, wining, pining about all those meanies who "attack him," "insult him," and call him names.




Catch that, fans? He cries, and pines, about how we don't know what words mean, and the little punk says that


In the OT, "the day of the Lord" was always judgment on a nation.

Obadiah 1:15 KJV For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

=upon all the heathen=always judgment on a nation.


"It was judgment on Edom."-you

No, it was not. Russell taught you that-it's made up.
 

john w

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(Ezk 3:15) I came to the exiles who lived at Tel Aviv near the Kebar River. And there, where they were living, I sat among them for seven days--deeply distressed.

The "exiles" lived in Babylon.

Do the math Little Johnny, and you will find out you are once again wrong.

I did not ask you that, frail boy, with no chin, and little girlie arms.





When was Ezekiel written, weasel boy?:
Ezekiel 30:3 NIV For the day is near, the day of the Lord is near— a day of clouds, a time of doom for the nations.
 

Nick M

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For the time is at hand means very soon time wise? Jesus said the kingdom of God was at hand and it never showed up in a physical way literal way. Perhaps God temporarily stopped his plans? I'm thinking so, because not all stones have been knocked down and Jesus looks like a liar.

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Matthew 24

2 And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”
 

Interplanner

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Can't think of anything unique to Paul...he says the same things as the others. Acts 2-3 and Acts 13 are very unified. Never 2P2P, D'ist, neo-orthodox, irrational.
 

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The idea of the expression is that it will be of no working use, got it? THAT was true. All Christianity needs is another dose of literalism like you are proposing.

The wrath had to fall, not because of the crucifixion (that was determined) but because of the rejection of the mission of the crucifixion.

If you think you are supposed to be literal, then why aren't you blasting the fax lines of Trinity everytime they show the atheist/socialist terrorist Jews pirating a freighter in EXODUS the movie. Of all the movies out there, they show it about every 2 months!
 

tetelestai

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Tell ya what Darby scorned incompetent - cite a writing prior to Darby that genuinely mentions a Pre-Trib Rapture; and we'll play with that.

Huh?

Darby invented the rapture.

Therefore, there are no "pre-trib rapture writings before Darby.
 

Interplanner

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RD,
I don't see the place where you originally commented on 2 Cor 10 about 'I will go on to visions etc' but he meant in that letter (ie, I will refer to them later). He was trying to show that the 'super-apostles' had neither solid experience nor visions. He was not speaking in terms of future revelations, and he had more of a bleif that the Gospel was an authoritative message, and then that his letters were because they contained that, not a direct belief in his letters. That's why there are curiosities like I cor 7:12.
 
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