Renounce Your Worthless Religion and Trust in Christ Alone

Robert Pate

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One obedience? He obeyed more than one time...many different commands...

the text states one man's obedience not a man's (christ's) one obedience...

And yes many will be made righteous...many unspecified...as He didn't die for one specific group...but all who have sinned...so all man kind...

Those that believe He died and rose and for them are a group which forms after the event...

Those before the event believed it would be secured by One...

So since He obeyed are we not to also do the same?


All that Jesus did and all that Jesus was, was for our salvation and justification. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10, No religion needed.
 

beloved57

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Clefty
One obedience? He obeyed more than one time...many different commands...

The scripture says by the Obedience of one, not the Obediences as in many.

And this obedience of one, made many righteous Rom 5:19. They the many did nothing!
 

beloved57

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Clefty
And yes many will be made righteous...many unspecified...as He didn't die for one specific group...but all who have sinned...so all man kind...

Yes He died for many, and the many He died for are made righteous/ justified by His one act of obedience. So if a person is not justified they could not have been part of the many in Rom 5:19!
 

beloved57

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Jesus PROVIDED salvation for EVERYONE, John 3:16.

But your false Calvinist God, who hates the true God of the Bible, won't let you believe that.

False statements. Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His Death and made righteous Rom 5:10,19
 

Robert Pate

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False statements. Those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His Death and made righteous Rom 5:10,19

You are always trying to make the Bible say something that will please your idol, Calvinism.

Jesus has atoned for the sins of EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9, but your false God doesn't want you to believe that, instead he wants you to believe a lie so that he is not offended.
 

Ktoyou

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I like my religion and my church lady friends. If you cannot accept it, then go jump in a lake!
 

beloved57

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You are always trying to make the Bible say something that will please your idol, Calvinism.

Jesus has atoned for the sins of EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9, but your false God doesn't want you to believe that, instead he wants you to believe a lie so that he is not offended.

Every man Christ tasted death for was reconciled to God by His Death Rom 5:10 and made righteous Rom 5:19!
 

Robert Pate

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Every man Christ tasted death for was reconciled to God by His Death Rom 5:10 and made righteous Rom 5:19!

Lets take a close look at Romans 5:10 to see what it is really saying.

"For if, WHEN we WERE enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."

"For if, WHEN WE WERE ENEMIES" is past tence. Your Calvinist God does not want you to believe that it is past tence, but it is.

"We were reconciled to God by the death of his Son" Means that Jesus died in our name and on our behalf. "He who knew no sin became sin for us" 2 Corinthians 5:21.

"We shall be saved by his life" Jesus saves us by his life by offering to God a life of perfect obedience according to his holy law.

All that Jesus did and all that Jesus was, was for our justification, Romans 3:26. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.
 

beloved57

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Lets take a close look at Romans 5:10 to see what it is really saying.

"For if, WHEN we WERE enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."

"For if, WHEN WE WERE ENEMIES" is past tence. Your Calvinist God does not want you to believe that it is past tence, but it is.

"We were reconciled to God by the death of his Son" Means that Jesus died in our name and on our behalf. "He who knew no sin became sin for us" 2 Corinthians 5:21.

"We shall be saved by his life" Jesus saves us by his life by offering to God a life of perfect obedience according to his holy law.

All that Jesus did and all that Jesus was, was for our justification, Romans 3:26. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.

Every man Christ died for was reconciled to God by His Death while they were enemies and they shall be saved by His life Rom 5:10!
 

Robert Pate

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Every man Christ died for was reconciled to God by His Death while they were enemies and they shall be saved by His life Rom 5:10!

Your Calvinist God has blinded your mind, he doesn't want you to know the truth.

The scripture does not say, "While they were enemies" It says, "WHEN THEY WERE ENEMIES."

Why do you allow your Calvinist God to lie to you?
 

beloved57

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Your Calvinist God has blinded your mind, he doesn't want you to know the truth.

The scripture does not say, "While they were enemies" It says, "WHEN THEY WERE ENEMIES."

Why do you allow your Calvinist God to lie to you?

So you don't believe that the sinners Christ died for are reconciled to God by His Death and shall be saved by His life! Read the scripture Rom 5:10. Oh, I forgot, you don't believe the scripture.
 

Robert Pate

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So you don't believe that the sinners Christ died for are reconciled to God by His Death and shall be saved by His life! Read the scripture Rom 5:10. Oh, I forgot, you don't believe the scripture.

I believe the scriptures.

Your Calvinist God will not allow you to believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 4:14.

If you believed the scriptures you would believe that. But your Calvinist God won't let you believe the scripture.
 

beloved57

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Your Calvinist God has blinded your mind, he doesn't want you to know the truth.

The scripture does not say, "While they were enemies" It says, "WHEN THEY WERE ENEMIES."

Why do you allow your Calvinist God to lie to you?

You trying your best to deny the truth but you can't do it, just making a fool of your self. Those Christ tasted death for are reconciled to God by His Death and shall be saved by His life Rom 5:10!

You deny that!
 

clefty

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Every man Christ tasted death for was reconciled to God by His Death Rom 5:10 and made righteous Rom 5:19!

"For God so loved the world"...that is everyone

You remind me of those that insist the Law was only given to Jews...because only Jews sinned?

All sin all were enemies...now some are less so...

"That whosoever believeth"...is a group from that everybody who sinned...not all do believe thus not all are saved

Some even cry out "Lord! Lord!" but are not included...

One man's obedience made available to all the gift of salvation...we obey not to be saved but because it is possible to be saved...it is out of gratitude for this and desire to be more like Him...

even Peter walked on water not because he was saved but because he wanted to be with Him...he began to fall when it was not about Him...and then he cried out "save me"
 

beloved57

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"For God so loved the world"...that is everyone

You remind me of those that insist the Law was only given to Jews...because only Jews sinned?

All sin all were enemies...now some are less so...

"That whosoever believeth"...is a group from that everybody who sinned...not all do believe thus not all are saved

Some even cry out "Lord! Lord!" but are not included...

One man's obedience made available to all the gift of salvation...we obey not to be saved but because it is possible to be saved...it is out of gratitude for this and desire to be more like Him...

even Peter walked on water not because he was saved but because he wanted to be with Him...he began to fall when it was not about Him...and then he cried out "save me"

Every man Christ tasted death for was reconciled to God while being enemies and shall be saved by His life Rom 5:10
 

Robert Pate

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Every man Christ tasted death for was reconciled to God while being enemies and shall be saved by His life Rom 5:10

Does not say that. You are a Satanic scripture perverter.

You like to take God's Holy Word and pervert it in order to serve your Satanic Calvinist God.

"For if WHEN we WERE enemies" NOT while we are enemies. STOP DOING YOUR EVIL.
 

beloved57

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Does not say that. You are a Satanic scripture perverter.

You like to take God's Holy Word and pervert it in order to serve your Satanic Calvinist God.

"For if WHEN we WERE enemies" NOT while we are enemies. STOP DOING YOUR EVIL.

You still dont believe the scripture, thats called unbelief. You are not even a Believer in Jesus Christ and what He accomplished by His death !
 
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