Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work

eider

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I seems to be invested in putting his country first.

Yes. Absolutely!
Politics has gone out the window here.
Wherever I go I see people acknowledging other passers by, and being on best behaviour. Rather like it was at Christmas 40 years ago.

Boris has risen up somewhat in the opinions of most, here. :)
 

Arthur Brain

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Yes. Absolutely!
Politics has gone out the window here.
Wherever I go I see people acknowledging other passers by, and being on best behaviour. Rather like it was at Christmas 40 years ago.

Boris has risen up somewhat in the opinions of most, here. :)

As it should. Had to do some more shopping earlier and no dramas again, people automatically observing distancing in supermarkets and had a bit of a joke with the till attendant when I thought my bank card wasn't working properly and it was because she'd forgotten to authorise payment...

It's not fun with these new measures but by and large, there's no trouble going on. As much as I'm not a fan of the tory government I've no issues with how Johnson has handled things since putting things into lockdown.
 

eider

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As it should. Had to do some more shopping earlier and no dramas again, people automatically observing distancing in supermarkets and had a bit of a joke with the till attendant when I thought my bank card wasn't working properly and it was because she'd forgotten to authorise payment...

It's not fun with these new measures but by and large, there's no trouble going on. As much as I'm not a fan of the tory government I've no issues with how Johnson has handled things since putting things into lockdown.

Yep... My feelings exactly.
I joined a queue at a Tesco's this pm. The atmosphere was really good.
We chatted to each other and when the woman ahead of me was allowed to go inside she turned to me and said 'goodbye, see you again'. The atmosphere ....
 

Arthur Brain

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Yep... My feelings exactly.
I joined a queue at a Tesco's this pm. The atmosphere was really good.
We chatted to each other and when the woman ahead of me was allowed to go inside she turned to me and said 'goodbye, see you again'. The atmosphere ....

I think it's helping that panic buying has subsided somewhat but yes, there's no feeling that "this is the end" or anything even after the stricter measures have been enforced.
 

eider

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I think it's helping that panic buying has subsided somewhat but yes, there's no feeling that "this is the end" or anything even after the stricter measures have been enforced.

How long do you think it might be before things start to relax? I suppose the real answer is that no one knows, but my guess is end of June to see any relaxation. By then we'll have lost 30-40 thousand, I reckon.
 

Arthur Brain

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How long do you think it might be before things start to relax? I suppose the real answer is that no one knows, but my guess is end of June to see any relaxation. By then we'll have lost 30-40 thousand, I reckon.

I wouldn't really want to speculate but can't see things relaxing any before sometime in May at the least and likely into June as you say although I hope your estimations are less...
 

7djengo7

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Same here, and you too, glad you are on here. It's been such a long time for me here, and you two got me beat by three years.

I signed up on here in 2009, and wrote not very many posts within a pretty short period after that. Then, if I remember right, I did not get back on here again until late 2018. So the numbers don't mean too much. It's kind of like a Rip Van Winkel story for me--except I wasn't asleep all that time; I just was not active on TOL. On the other hand, I'd not be surprised to learn that eider has been asleep all that time, and more, despite his activity on TOL; I mean, one just doesn't write the kind of stupidities he posts while awake and lucid. :)
 

7djengo7

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So you didn't like being called a political tribalist, I'm guessing.
Your response was very telling......

Since the ways in which you think are irrational and idiotic, and if by saying that I "didn't like being called a political tribalist", you mean that I think about politics in ways that clash against the irrational, idiotic ways in which you think, then I really do not see why I shouldn't like "being called a political tribalist" by you. That is to say, thanks for the compliment. :)
 

7djengo7

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How long do you think it might be before things start to relax? I suppose the real answer is that no one knows, but my guess is end of June to see any relaxation. By then we'll have lost 30-40 thousand, I reckon.

Oh, but you told us you know exactly how long you can hold out at home, under state quarantine, in terms of your "wisely planned" stockpile of accumulated food and supplies, without needing to go shopping again to replenish your supply. Yet, you now admit that you don't even know how long you will be forced to stay home, unable to replenish your supply. So much for your hypocritical boast about how "prepared" you are for anything. You don't even know that you'll not exhaust your supply of food weeks or months before (if at all) your tyrants grant you leave to go shopping.

You don't even know that your store-bought, or homemade, "hand cleanser" will be worth a darn against any coronavirus germs that chance to take up residence on your hands. What's that? You have a scientific test you can run, personally, to learn whether or not you even have a taint of coronavirus on your hands (either before, or after applying your "hand cleanser" to them)?

Here's how you know whether or not your "hand cleanser" kills coronavirus germs on your hand:

Step 1: Run a scientific test by which you can learn whether or not there are any live coronavirus germs on your hand.
Step 2: If you learn from Step 1 that there are live coronavirus germs on your hand, then apply your "hand cleanser" to your hand, where you found the coronavirus germs, in hope of killing them.
Step 3: Repeat Step 1.
Step 4: If you learn from Step 3 that the coronavirus germs on your hand, which you tried to kill by applying your "hand cleanser", avoided being killed by that application, then you have learned that your "hand cleanser" is a worthless dud. If, on the other hand, you learn that they have, indeed, been killed, then yay (perhaps) for your "hand cleanser".​

So, what scientific test do you personally use to learn whether or not your "hand cleanser" kills coronavirus germs on your hands? Shouldn't you be applying that test at least as often as you use your "hand cleanser"? Oh, that's right: You have no scientific way of knowing whether or not you've got coronavirus germs on your hand, nor of knowing whether or not your "hand cleanser" kills coronavirus on your hands. All you've got is to be able to say (both before and after "hand cleanser") "I may have live coronavirus germs on my hand, and then again, I may not," which goes to show how worthless your "hand cleanser" is without any scientific test. Maybe you leftard heirs of "Enlightement ideals"--you cheerleaders for "Science"--can just go bow down and beg your worshipful media programmers to give you a "Breaking News Update" every time they'd like you to use your "hand cleanser".
 

eider

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Oh, but you told us you know exactly how long you can hold out at home, under state quarantine, in terms of your "wisely planned" stockpile of accumulated food and supplies, without needing to go shopping again to replenish your supply. Yet, you now admit that you don't even know how long you will be forced to stay home, unable to replenish your supply. So much for your hypocritical boast about how "prepared" you are for anything. You don't even know that you'll not exhaust your supply of food weeks or months before (if at all) your tyrants grant you leave to go shopping.
rant rant, blah blah, rant...... :)

You don't even know that your store-bought, or homemade, "hand cleanser" will be worth a darn against any coronavirus germs that chance to take up residence on your hands. What's that? You have a scientific test you can run, personally, to learn whether or not you even have a taint of coronavirus on your hands (either before, or after applying your "hand cleanser" to them)?

Here's how you know whether or not your "hand cleanser" kills coronavirus germs on your hand:

Step 1: Run a scientific test by which you can learn whether or not there are any live coronavirus germs on your hand.
Step 2: If you learn from Step 1 that there are live coronavirus germs on your hand, then apply your "hand cleanser" to your hand, where you found the coronavirus germs, in hope of killing them.
Step 3: Repeat Step 1.
Step 4: If you learn from Step 3 that the coronavirus germs on your hand, which you tried to kill by applying your "hand cleanser", avoided being killed by that application, then you have learned that your "hand cleanser" is a worthless dud. If, on the other hand, you learn that they have, indeed, been killed, then yay (perhaps) for your "hand cleanser".​
You ain't no scientist! Definitely!
What are your qualifications to support your rant, eh?

So, what scientific test do you personally use to learn whether or not your "hand cleanser" kills coronavirus germs on your hands? Shouldn't you be applying that test at least as often as you use your "hand cleanser"? Oh, that's right: You have no scientific way of knowing whether or not you've got coronavirus germs on your hand, nor of knowing whether or not your "hand cleanser" kills coronavirus on your hands. All you've got is to be able to say (both before and after "hand cleanser") "I may have live coronavirus germs on my hand, and then again, I may not," which goes to show how worthless your "hand cleanser" is without any scientific test. Maybe you leftard heirs of "Enlightement ideals"--you cheerleaders for "Science"--can just go bow down and beg your worshipful media programmers to give you a "Breaking News Update" every time they'd like you to use your "hand cleanser".
My wife's bosses are all surgeons!
What are you? What do you do for work?
Love it!

Hey! Bye bye! See ya later!
:wave2:
 

God's Truth

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I signed up on here in 2009, and wrote not very many posts within a pretty short period after that. Then, if I remember right, I did not get back on here again until late 2018. So the numbers don't mean too much. It's kind of like a Rip Van Winkel story for me--except I wasn't asleep all that time; I just was not active on TOL. On the other hand, I'd not be surprised to learn that eider has been asleep all that time, and more, despite his activity on TOL; I mean, one just doesn't write the kind of stupidities he posts while awake and lucid. :)

Yeah I noticed you don't have very many posts for someone who has been on here so long. Well glad you are here more.
 

Gary K

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As to reasons Trump wants the average US citizen to go back to work, here is a little economic data for you and what it means by a Swiss financial analyst/economist who is known and highly respected world wide. Especially note his numbers for world wide debt and the problems this creates. I know all you Keynesians don't understand the problems of debt as you've bought into Maynard's idiotic ideas that debt is good, but just remember that his lifetime ambition from the time he was a young man was to defraud the public. Once that is understood it's possible to understand why he created such nonsense as debt is good and saving is bad.

Authored by Egon von Greyerz via GoldSwitzerland.com,

Whoever doesn’t learn to dance in the rain will struggle to survive the virtually non-stop storms that the world will experience in the next few years. The abrupt downturn in the global economy, triggered but not caused by coronavirus, came as a lightning bolt out of the blue. Thus, most people are paralysed and will fall helplessly as the world unwinds 100 years of mismanagement and excesses, caused primarily by bankers, both central and commercial. [h=3]2006-9 WAS JUST A REHEARSAL[/h]
I have for years warned about the enormous risks in the financial system that inevitably would lead to a collapse. As the bubble continued to grow for over ten years since the 2006-9 crisis, very few understood that the last crisis was just a rehearsal with none of the underlying problems resolved. By printing and lending $140 trillion since 2006, the problem and risks weren’t just kicked down the road but made exponentially greater.




So here we are in the spring of 2020 with debts, unfunded liabilities and derivatives of around $2.5 quadrillion. This is a sum that is impossible to fathom but if we say that it is almost 30x global GDP, it gives us an idea what the world and central banks will have to grapple with in the next few years. [h=3]THERE WILL BE NO V OR U RECOVERY[/h]
No one should believe for one moment that once CV is gone we will experience a V shaped recovery. There will be no V, there will be no U and nor will we see a hockey stick recovery. What few people understand, including the so called experts, is that there will be no recovery at all. An extremely rapid decline of the world economy has just started and will be devastating in the next 6-12 months, whether CV ends soon or not. [h=3]CORONAVIRUS CASES EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER THAN RECORDED[/h]
There always had to be a catalyst to trigger the inevitable end to the biggest economic bubble in history. Catalysts are normally a financial event like a default of a financial institution. But this time the world could not have been hit by a worse event than Coronavirus. In just over one month the disease has spread like wildfire all around the world. Currently there are almost 900,000 identified cases and 43,000 deaths. The problem is that the number of cases are only a function of how many have been tested. Since most countries only have a limited number of test kits, the real figure of infected people is most probably exponentially higher than 900,000. CV was discovered in Wuhan back in November 2019. The disease most likely spread a lot faster around the world than anyone realised since no one was tested for a long time and still today very few are tested. [h=3]LOCKDOWN WILL BE DEVASTATING[/h]


The effects of CV have been to shut the world down for an unknown period. With schools, shops, hotels, airlines and factories etc closed, most countries are not producing anything currently. This total lockdown will not only be devastating for the world economically. It could lead to more people suffering due to hardship, famine and health problems with lack of essential items like medicines and food, rather than from CV itself. I pointed this out already 3 weeks ago but politically and humanely this solution has not been considered acceptable.

What the world is now encountering is the perfect storm. That the debt infested global economy would one day come to an abrupt halt has been clear for a while as I have written in many articles. But instead of a gradual downturn, the world economy is now going to experience a fast and devastating collapse which will lead to a decline in real terms of most assets like stocks, property and debt by more than 90%. Real terms means measured in constant purchasing power like gold.

In the Dow for example, we have just seen on the quarterly chart, a downturn in the MACD indicator from a very high level. This is a very important trending signal which indicates that we are likely to see at least 10 years downtrend in stock markets. The alternative is that we will see a very rapid decline in the next 6-24 months and then the index going along the bottom for a decade or more.

The rest of the article can be found at the following link. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/von-greyerz-20089-was-just-rehearsal

Think about it. A decline in personal financial assets by 90%. Just imagine yourself with only 1/10 of the financial resources you have now and you will understand what is coming. Your chances of being able to feed yourself are going to become mighty slim. And you're so afraid of the coronavirus that you hate Trump for wanting to get you back to work to minimize the future damage to you. This is what your beloved politicians, governments, and bankers have been planning and working towards for us for generations. The coronavirus looks like a very small risk compared to what's now upon us.

Life as we have always known it is over. We are going to see poverty, starvation, and homelessness at levels unknown to us everywhere. And we are going to see the rich get richer as this entire event has been the goal of the financial elite for a long, long time. They have been working at bankrupting the US for more than 100 years now and have finally accomplished their goals. The coming super world-wide depression is going to be largest wealth transfer from the average citizen to the financial elite ever to take place. What we will have after this is a two-class world. It will be the billionaires and trillionaires on one side and the rest of us as peons on the other side. That is those of us who survive the economic collapse because that is going to starve untold millions of us to death.

The people doing this are the leaders of the one world government movement. In other words, socialists. It's the ultimate dream of socialism: masters and slaves. Read the UN Agenda 21 , and I believe Agenda 2030, documentation as to their plans for you. They want population reduction world wide down to 500,000,000, but how many times have there been unforseen consequences in the plans of men and the unintended consequences are even more deadly than the planners imagine? The Bible tells us they will kill all of us unless God interferes with them and puts and end to their insanity. These people are not your friends

It's time to place getting right with God at the very top of our priorities for the only way to survive what is coming is a living breathing relationship with God. The complete destruction of life on this planet is at hand and must end in the 2nd coming of Jesus. This is what He warned us about in Matthew.
[SIZE=+1]Matthew 24:21[/SIZE] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
[SIZE=+1]22[/SIZE] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.



How soon will it all be over? I don't have a clue as only the Father knows the day and hour of Jesus' return. I just know the Bible has described what we are now seeing around us on a daily basis and said these are the last days of earth as God is going to put an end to all of this misery, pain, death, and sorrow caused by sin.
 

jgarden

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Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work


This President has already made a series of wrong decisions concerning this pandemic and the prospect of sending the workforce back too early so as to promote an economic recovery before the 2020 Election, would be consistent with his decision making!

Even Dr. Fauci has stated publicly that COVIR-19 make a comeback in some form as as a second wave in in the fall, which could require the nation to repeat the same lock-down process once again!

That was the case during the Spanish Flu which originated in China but was thought to have mutated somewhere in Kansas into a second, more virulent strain that was far more deadly than the first wave!

The world is in uncharted territory over the long term behaviors of this pandemic and America has a President who steadfastly refuses to learn from his past mistakes!
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
This President has already made a series of wrong decisions ...

MY president

not yours

and yes, he's made mistakes - he's human

and Americans understand that and support him, more today than at any time in his presidency


it looks likely that he'll be MY president for five more years :)

and you'll have to suffer with your obsessive compulsion for at least that long :(
 

jgarden

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and yes, he's made mistakes - he's human

and Americans understand that and support him, more today than at any time in his presidency


it looks likely that he'll be MY president for five more years :)

and you'll have to suffer with your obsessive compulsion for at least that long :(
Trump on God: ‘Hopefully I won’t have to be asking for much forgiveness’

1) Last summer, Trump was asked at the Iowa Family Leadership Summit whether he had ever asked God for forgiveness.

“I am not sure I have,” he said then. “I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”

2)
“I have a great relationship with God. I have a great relationship with the evangelicals,” Trump told Tapper.

“I like to be good. I don’t like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don’t do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...h-forgiveness/
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After 3 1/2 years in the White House, one would have expected "ok doser" to be more knowledgeable about the religious views of the President he has posted ad nauseam to defend - Trump is on the public record stating that he really doesn't see the need to ask God's forgiveness from sin because he doesn't make mistakes, at least none to which he will admit!
 
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God's Truth

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Trump on God: ‘Hopefully I won’t have to be asking for much forgiveness’

1) Last summer, Trump was asked at the Iowa Family Leadership Summit whether he had ever asked God for forgiveness.

“I am not sure I have,” he said then. “I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”

2)
“I have a great relationship with God. I have a great relationship with the evangelicals,” Trump told Tapper.

“I like to be good. I don’t like to have to ask for forgiveness. And I am good. I don’t do a lot of things that are bad. I try to do nothing that is bad.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...h-forgiveness/
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After 3 1/2 years in the White House, one would have expected "ok doser" to be more knowledgeable about the religious views of the President he has posted ad nauseam to defend - Trump is on the public record stating that he really doesn't see the need to ask God's forgiveness from sin because he doesn't make mistakes, at least none to which he will admit!

He doesn't have to confess anything to the media.
If he said that, it was the right thing to the creeps who asked him.
 
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