Why God Cannot Decree Someones Salvation

Robert Pate

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No one can refute you because you are impervious to scripture. You have a few select scriptures that you quote out of scriptural context and your mind is closed to any other interpretation.

Good luck with that.

I am open to all scripture if it is interpreted in the light of the Gospel.
 

Robert Pate

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You listen to Paul?

Paul says he is not without the law.

1 Corinthians 9:21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law.

Paul is the one to listen to. The Gospel was given to Paul directly by Jesus Christ, Galatians 1:11,12.
 

jamie

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I am open to all scripture if it is interpreted in the light of the Gospel.

That's not true. How many times have I shown you that the Father is not calling everyone at this time and yet you keep claiming he is calling everyone. OK, here it is again:

For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty, and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not to bring to nothing the things that are that no flesh should glory in His presence. (1 Corinthians 1:26-29)​
 

God's Truth

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That's not true. How many times have I shown you that the Father is not calling everyone at this time and yet you keep claiming he is calling everyone. OK, here it is again:

For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty, and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not to bring to nothing the things that are that no flesh should glory in His presence. (1 Corinthians 1:26-29)​

Why do you say God is not calling everyone at this time? God is calling everyone.
 
You teach that even though Christ died for sinners sins, they are stilll lost. How is that the Good News Of the Gospel ?

The Good News of the Gospel isn't that Christ died for the sins of some/all. Jesus preached "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"

He preached this before he died. The good news was that the Kingdom was at hand. It was still good news even if many didn't receive the message. It was good news even though the Kingdom was taken from the "elect".

Repentance was necessary to be a part of the Kingdom plan.
 

beloved57

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The Good News of the Gospel isn't that Christ died for the sins of some/all. Jesus preached "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"

He preached this before he died. The good news was that the Kingdom was at hand. It was still good news even if many didn't receive the message. It was good news even though the Kingdom was taken from the "elect".

Repentance was necessary to be a part of the Kingdom plan.

Heresy !
 

Robert Pate

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The Good News of the Gospel isn't that Christ died for the sins of some/all. Jesus preached "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"

He preached this before he died. The good news was that the Kingdom was at hand. It was still good news even if many didn't receive the message. It was good news even though the Kingdom was taken from the "elect".

Repentance was necessary to be a part of the Kingdom plan.

Repentance is a work that we do and does not save. What does save is the doing and the dying of Jesus. The Bible plainly teaches that all that have faith in the work and the person of Jesus Christ will be saved, Ephesians 2:8.
 

God's Truth

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Repentance is a work that we do and does not save. What does save is the doing and the dying of Jesus. The Bible plainly teaches that all that have faith in the work and the person of Jesus Christ will be saved, Ephesians 2:8.

That scripture is about faith in Jesus' blood cleaning us, and not our cleaning ourselves anymore.
Jesus says repent or perish.
His words are forever and they were not done away with.
 

beloved57

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Repentance is a work that we do and does not save. What does save is the doing and the dying of Jesus. The Bible plainly teaches that all that have faith in the work and the person of Jesus Christ will be saved, Ephesians 2:8.

Why do you lie ? You teach that sinners Christ lived and died for are still lost !
 

beloved57

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Just as the scriptures say, Jesus died for all, but all must not reject him if they do not want to be punished.

Its quite simple and reasonable, if you teach that Christ died for all, and all are not saved, then you deny that Christ's death saves. Correct ?
 

God's Truth

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Its quite simple and reasonable, if you teach that Christ died for all, and all are not saved, then you deny that Christ's death saves. Correct ?

You must come into the covenant of that grace. Read Romans 5:2. Living faith gives us access to that grace.
 
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