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No, I just don't have to answer you according to your folly.
Why God Cannot Decree Someones Salvation
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No, I just don't have to answer you according to your folly.
beloved57
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You are a unbeliever whether you answer me or not, your posts testify that you are.
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I believe and obey God.
You result to accusations and condemnation because that is what Satan gave you to do.
beloved57
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You don't believe that Christ death saved sinners! That's unbelief
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You don't believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 Timothy 2:3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.
1 Timothy 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
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When a person does not believe that Christ death alone saved sinners He died for they are unbelievers.
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We have to believe and repent to get saved.
beloved57
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So you don't believe that Christ death alone saved them He died for, that makes you a unbeliever!
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You do not even know what you are saying. You were not saved before you were saved. To preach you were saved before you were saved is nowhere in the Bible.
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Listen to the written Word of God.
beloved57
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You are the unbeliever not the written word of God.
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Read the Bible and believe what it says.
beloved57
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I don't believe what you say, you are the unbeliever!
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Believe what Jesus says in the Bible.
beloved57
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You don't believe in Jesus Christ, don't you believe that sinners He died for are still lost?
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In this passage, read how many times Jesus says "whoever."
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's only begotten Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.
“Whoever” is whoever. This is plain and simple. Calvinists use special exegesis to twist the scriptures. Whomever in the world believes turns into whomever in the world of believers who believe.
1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Are you willing to repent of all the falseness you followed?
Are you ready to give up family and friends who will go against you for leaving Calvinism?
Are you ready to give it all up for God's Truth?
Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. This scripture shows that Jesus saves any who come to him in belief; it is a choice of all men, if they only would not love darkness instead of the light.
God wants all men saved. Read how many times scripture says "all men.”
John 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
1 Timothy2:3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
1 Timothy 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
That scripture right there should stop any one from ever misunderstanding and believing Calvinism ever again. How much plainer language does it have to be? "Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.” All men have the chance to obey and believe.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's only begotten Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.
“Whoever” is whoever. This is plain and simple. Calvinists use special exegesis to twist the scriptures. Whomever in the world believes turns into whomever in the world of believers who believe.
1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Are you willing to repent of all the falseness you followed?
Are you ready to give up family and friends who will go against you for leaving Calvinism?
Are you ready to give it all up for God's Truth?
Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. This scripture shows that Jesus saves any who come to him in belief; it is a choice of all men, if they only would not love darkness instead of the light.
God wants all men saved. Read how many times scripture says "all men.”
John 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
1 Timothy2:3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
1 Timothy 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
That scripture right there should stop any one from ever misunderstanding and believing Calvinism ever again. How much plainer language does it have to be? "Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.” All men have the chance to obey and believe.
But you doubt your salvation. You will always wonder if your sorrow was deep enough or if your feeble attempt at repentance was sufficient. You don't have peace.
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You are making up things about me, just like you do with the Bible.
When the evil day comes, and it will, these things will be brought to your remembrance. Then Satan, whom you serve, will unleash all the terrors and dread at His disposal and at your last breath and beat of your heart you will realise the depth and power of the lie you have believed.
When I first saw the planes hit the towers my immediate thought was, And now they know they have believed a lie. While they were in time they had no knowledge of the truth, but as they left time and entered eternity all became clear...too late. And so it will be with you unless you are granted repentance.
2 Timothy 2:25
"...If Elohim perhaps will grant them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth". In this one verse is the proof that repentance is granted, it is a gift and the use of the word "perhaps", also translated as peradventure, should make you quake in terror at all the lies you have spouted, but that won't happen, because it requires repentance and you don't have it.