Then what's the problem? Immigrants will assimilate to the level they need, and bring their native cultures with them. That's not an issue crackers need to be worried about.
Berkley or Dallas?
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Then what's the problem? Immigrants will assimilate to the level they need, and bring their native cultures with them. That's not an issue crackers need to be worried about.
ok doser
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i spose 'cause it's a sanctuary city
are you referring to the illegal family separation scheme that applied to all immigrants who applied for visas to come to the us?
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Generally speaking, newly arrived immigrants to the U.S. have found it more successful to congregate in enclaves with similar cultural ties; as evidenced by this short list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_enclaves_in_North_American_cities#Dominican_Republic
annabenedetti
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And you think that means it's full of people who are un-American?
No, I'm referring to the policy that applied to anyone who crossed the border legally to apply for asylum in the United States. Or who, at worst, could be charged with a misdemeanor.
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annabenedetti
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He's got some fellow travelers:
White Supremacists' Disturbing Outreach to 'Russian Friends'
Most recently, this connection manifested in a letter from Michael Hill, the president of the neo-Confederate group League of the South, addressed to “our Russian Friends,” as reported by Right Wing Watch.
In the letter, Hill announces the launch of Russian language section on his group’s website and draws out his shared interests with Russia:
We understand that the Russian people and Southerners are natural allies in blood, culture, and religion. As fellow Whites of northern European extraction, we come from the same general gene pool. As inheritors of the European cultural tradition, we share similar values, customs, and ways of life. And as Christians, we worship the same Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and our common faith binds us as brothers and sisters.
annabenedetti
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Was going to say diverse, but I didn't want to confuse anyone.lain:
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ok doser
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one american value is a general respect for the law, so yes
i think it was a mistake to change that policy
Hm, well, there's nothing illegal about the sanctuary city law (see federalism), and welcoming immigrants, not splitting up families, and basic human rights are also American values. So, there.
I think it was a crime against humanity. It is more or less what Boko Haram does.
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ok doser
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i don't remember anything in scripture about "benefits" and "programs"
Yep. Diversity is what America is. There is no "culture of America", only American values that permeate all American cultures.
Dallas and Berkeley are pretty much alike in those values, although the relatively few people in each city who don't accept those values, do so in entirely different ways.
And it's often counter-intuitive. For example, Dallas police officers kill at a much lower rate than the police in most large cities. Dallas is not the right-wing jungle that people sometimes assume it to be.
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ClimateSanity
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They are both geographically American. They are both legally American.
2018 Geographic America is American as 1812 Geographic America.
However, the latter is fundamentally different culturally than the former. This occurred for three reasons.
The people forgot what was unique about America and began to see America for it's flaws instead of it's strengths.
An elite , typically highly educated, establishment class worked diligently to change America from what made it great. This was largely seen in the establishment of the progressive movement whom teddy Roosevelt was it's first highly visible proponent.
Immigrants began to be brought in more for their economic use than for their appreciation for the American ideal.
You cannot say the resulting culture was no different than original culture in terms of the ideal of the American experiment.
That is unless you are a historical revisionist who has no respect whatsoever for the original American ideal and sees it fundamentally as racist, mysogonistic, and imperialistic. These people define original America through it's faults rather than it's unique system of governance and it's view of the sovereignty of the individual.
This is the essence of my topic which was misunderstood from the start.
If you believe borders should be open and all the world's people entitled to citizenship....then of course you will take umbrage at my topic.
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Diversity has become the defining characteristic of America to it's ruling intellectual elites, but it certainly was not the defining characteristic to the founding fathers or to the vast majority of citizens in 1812 America.
ok doser
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not to be a monkey in the wrench, but in 1812 neither California nor texas were american
ok doser
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have you noticed that when pressed to give their understanding of what "diversity" means, the typical retarded leftist can't?
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I was showing what happened to America since 1812 culturally. Rex's point was that they are both American cities and he felt like I was saying berkley was not legitimate.
I countered that with the fact that 1812 and 2018 America were both legally American and yet one was far adrift from the country the founders had in mind.
Berkley is exponentially further from the founders ideals than Dallas is.
That last sentence hopefully makes the message I was trying to convey crystal clear.