Gun Control History

CherubRam

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century: 56 million. Now you understand why, in the words of Justice Joseph Story (appointed to the Supreme Court by James Madison), "The right of the citizens to keep and

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Gun Control History — The Patriot Post[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
 

The Barbarian

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The NRA story: "If you don't let crazy people have assault rifles, you'll all be rounded up and sent to extermination camps."

Guess why the NRA is having a hard time, about now.
 

genuineoriginal

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Gun Control History
In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century: 56 million. Now you understand why, in the words of Justice Joseph Story (appointed to the Supreme Court by James Madison), "The right of the citizens to keep and

Gun Control History — The Patriot Post


1 Samuel 13:19
19 Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears:​

 

genuineoriginal

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The NRA story: "If you don't let crazy people have assault rifles, you'll all be rounded up and sent to extermination camps."

Guess why the NRA is having a hard time, about now.
36 School shooters/school related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs
Fact: At least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 172 wounded and 80 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public.​

We need better control of psychiatric drugs, since they seem to be the leading cause of school shootings.
 

The Barbarian

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36 School shooters/school related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs
Fact: At least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 172 wounded and 80 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public.​

We need better control of psychiatric drugs, since they seem to be the leading cause of school shootings.

Show us that. Wearing jeans is more strongly correlated with school shootings than almost anything else.

I'd be interested in your data as to the percentage of kids on psychiatric drugs who shoot up schools. What have you got?
 

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Turkey/Armenia, the Soviet Union, China, Guatemala, Uganda, Cambodia - "CherubRam" conveniently omits the most relevant analogy in US history, the American Civil War!

The Civil War demonstrated conclusively that well regulated militias lacked both the manpower and resources to defeat a standing military over an extended period!
 

The Barbarian

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Turkey/Armenia, the Soviet Union, China, Guatemala, Uganda, Cambodia - "CherubRam" conveniently omits the most relevant analogy in US history, the American Civil War!

The Civil War demonstrated conclusively that well regulated militias lacked both the manpower and resources to defeat a standing military over an extended period!

There is that. And the situation today is much, much worse for any ad hoc militia, than it was in the 1860s.
 

genuineoriginal

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Show us that. I'd be interested in your data as to the percentage of kids on psychiatric drugs who shoot up schools. What have you got?
You could have checked the data in the link.

Wearing jeans is more strongly correlated with school shootings than almost anything else.
Here are the side effects of Psychiatric drugs: pdf ->The Side Effects of Common Psychiatric Drugs
These include:
  • Aggressive or hostile behavior
  • Hallucinations
  • Increased irritability
  • Mania
  • Mental/mood changes
  • Psychosis
  • Violent behavior

Please post the side effects of wearing jeans.
 

MrDante

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You could have checked the data in the link.
the link doesn't address anything like the question asked

Here are the side effects of Psychiatric drugs: pdf ->The Side Effects of Common Psychiatric Drugs
These include:
  • Aggressive or hostile behavior
  • Hallucinations
  • Increased irritability
  • Mania
  • Mental/mood changes
  • Psychosis
  • Violent behavior

Please post the side effects of wearing jeans.

the first person on the links list was Kendrex J. White who had taken 2 “happy pills,”which we are told is zoloft.
side effects for zoloft are:
very stiff (rigid) muscles, high fever, sweating, confusion, fast or uneven heartbeats, feeling like you might pass out;
agitation, fever, overactive reflexes, tremors;
nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite, feeling unsteady, loss of coordination; or
headache, trouble concentrating, memory problems, weakness, fainting, seizure, shallow breathing or breathing that stops.
drowsiness, dizziness, tired feeling;
mild nausea, stomach pain, upset stomach, constipation;
dry mouth;
changes in appetite or weight;
sleep problems (insomnia); or
decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm.

The only matching side effect between your lost and Zoloft's side effects is agitation. but since white was described as “calmly walked around the plaza,” i think that side effect can be ruled out


Chris Plaskon was medications for ADHD. most likely Vyvanse. When prescribed for ADHD that drug's side effects are
Anxiety, Decreased appetite, Diarrhea, Dizziness, Dry mouth, Loss of appetite Nausea, Trouble sleeping. , Upper stomach pain, Vomiting, Weight loss.

no smoking pill bottle here

or anywhere
 

genuineoriginal

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the first person on the links list was Kendrex J. White who had taken 2 “happy pills,”which we are told is zoloft.
side effects for zoloft are:
very stiff (rigid) muscles, high fever, sweating, confusion, fast or uneven heartbeats, feeling like you might pass out;
agitation, fever, overactive reflexes, tremors;
nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite, feeling unsteady, loss of coordination; or
headache, trouble concentrating, memory problems, weakness, fainting, seizure, shallow breathing or breathing that stops.
drowsiness, dizziness, tired feeling;
mild nausea, stomach pain, upset stomach, constipation;
dry mouth;
changes in appetite or weight;
sleep problems (insomnia); or
decreased sex drive, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm.

The only matching side effect between your lost and Zoloft's side effects is agitation. but since white was described as “calmly walked around the plaza,” i think that side effect can be ruled out
We don't have a list of the drugs given to him at the mental health facility he had previously been in and the side effects that happen when you stop taking psychiatric drugs are more likely the cause of the homicidal thoughts than the side effects of a drug you are taking.

You did miss these side effects of Zoloft:
  • Abnormal thoughts
  • Delusions
  • Hostility
  • Psychotic episodes
  • Violent behavior

Chris Plaskon was medications for ADHD. most likely Vyvanse. When prescribed for ADHD that drug's side effects are
Anxiety, Decreased appetite, Diarrhea, Dizziness, Dry mouth, Loss of appetite Nausea, Trouble sleeping. , Upper stomach pain, Vomiting, Weight loss.

no smoking pill bottle here

or anywhere
You missed these side effects of Vyvanse:
  • Aggressive or hostile behavior
  • Changes in mood
  • Hallucinations
  • Increased irritability
  • Mania
  • Mental/mood changes
  • Violent behavior
 

Stripe

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I am sure The Barbarian will not provide any justification for his idea that wearing jeans to school can create school shooters.

To be fair, he didn't suggest causation. I think he was trying to imply that correlation does not mean causation with drugs.

Of course, his obtuse communication style just opened himself up.

:mock: Blablaman.
 

The Barbarian

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I am sure The Barbarian will not provide any justification for his idea that wearing jeans to school can create school shooters.

Stipe, as usual, missed the point, which is that correlation does not mean causation. So, the fact that school shooting is highly correlated with wearing jeans, that does not mean that wearing jeans causes school shootings.

That comment was in regard to some person ignorantly supposing that such correlations actually prove something.

If this is a mystery to you, perhaps this would help:
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Troubled students sometimes commit murder, and troubled students are often given psychoactive drugs. Likewise, troubled students often have discipline records. You could say, with equal reasonableness (or lack of reasonableness) that school discipline causes school shootings.

This is so obvious, that anyone with an open mind and normal intelligence would understand it.

Edit: I see Stipe has amended his error. They were wrong about you, Stipe. You are capable of learning. Hopefully, GO will be able to figure it out, too.
 

Stripe

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The fact that school shooting is highly correlated with wearing jeans, that does not mean that wearing jeans causes school shootings.

That comment was in regard to some person ignorantly supposing that such correlations actually prove something.
Nope. GO uses evidence, not a reliance on correlation.

Side-effects, remember?
 

MrDante

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We don't have a list of the drugs given to him at the mental health facility he had previously been in and the side effects that happen when you stop taking psychiatric drugs are more likely the cause of the homicidal thoughts than the side effects of a drug you are taking.

You did miss these side effects of Zoloft:
  • Abnormal thoughts
  • Delusions
  • Hostility
  • Psychotic episodes
  • Violent behavior
I listed the most common. there are 80 other side effects aside from thee.

does zolft cause all the side effects listed? no. Side effects for any medication will include any reported side effect in that medication's drug class and there are close to 20 SSRIs so any side effect reported for any of these, even if it is just by one person one time in the last 40 years it is listed as a side effect. That is why side effect lists are so long and often so ridiculous.
 
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