PneumaPsucheSoma
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There's only one, and it's the ontological hypostatic translation into Christ.
Nobody decides to repent. Nobody decides to believe. Nobody decides to be saved. The will of man cannot accomplish any of those.
ECT Grace is unconditional but not universal
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There's only one, and it's the ontological hypostatic translation into Christ.
Nobody decides to repent. Nobody decides to believe. Nobody decides to be saved. The will of man cannot accomplish any of those.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Did anything they did save them?
You miss the point. It wasn't the looking that healed. It was the hearing (the NOUN) that caused them to look and live.
There is no artificial restriction of salvation by God. The false binary is because nobody understands time versus timelessness and applies a sequence to it all.
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Not sure you've proven this.
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I asked if you proclaim that gospel.
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You didn't answer the question. All the Israelite that were in need of a cure were provided for. They would turn and look if they trusted that which was proposed to them.
The gospel you are preaching can never be considered good news and makes Jesus' choice of analogy wrong.
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Then Jesus was unconscionably disingenuous.
Your gospel is, de facto, bad news.
beloved57
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Your god isnt, but the God I know and Worship is the Author of sin, and everything else that has being and activity in His World !
beloved57
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No its not, but you dont believe it ir understand it ! God Loved the World in Christ Jesus, thats the only Love He has Rom 8:39
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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A worthless creation.
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Sonnet you're up awful early !!
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WoW!! God authored it and then cast him/it out. That is just bad reasoning.
God took resonsibility for sin by sending Jesus to make a way possible for man to escape its curse, its conclusion. Sin was found in the freewill given Lucifer when he declared he would set himself up to be higher in heaven than God. This same freewill is a necessity in man that he must choose whom he will follow. God is always looking for those who "will" it within themselves to choose Him. There is no life without Him. Sin is death. Did God Author that as well?
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Indeed. If God Authored sin them sin is of Him. We know that is not true. We have Jesus who declared by His life, it isn't true..
beloved57
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Yeah, my God is the author of sin because He is the author of Salvation from sin through Jesus Christ.
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If God Authored it then, by virtue of His indwelling life, it is of God. Therefore, Jesus was born in sin. Do you really want to believe that?
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You proclamation of this as the 'good new' is astonishing. Paul cursed those who preach a different Gospel.
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