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    Depends on the level of spiritual practices and level of consciousness. I believe the astral realms talk about in the theosophy community (esoteric community) have to do with dreams and astral projection. Inner practice accompanied by outer practice.

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    I put my money on Jesus and the Book of Ecclesiastes. Live in the moment and learn what eternity is.

    Live a righteous life, do good and have a safe passage through death. Ecclesiastes [which translates as “the Preacher”] says nothing about an afterlife.

    Jesus said little about Heaven. It was in good shape and could take care of itself.

    For Jesus, salvation had nothing to do with Heaven. It was all about transformation in this life.

    After all, it’s here on earth where the problems are. And the majority of his teachings were concerned with poverty and the extreme income gap.

    In Jesus’ day, the poverty percentage was over 90%. The elites were made up of about 5 to 10%.
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    Yes!

    Romans 10:9-13 King James Version (KJV)
    9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

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    I don't really care.
    Jesus said little about Heaven. Again, Heaven is in great shape and can take care of itself.

    Again, it’s here on Earth where the problems are: disease, poverty, hunger, violence, etc.

    Everybody talks about heaven, paradise, the afterlife.

    The only thing I know is that I will die into God at the end.

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    John 3:16.."For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

    For if you believe in Jesus Christ and His Gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4) Heaven awaits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    I don't really care.
    Jesus said little about Heaven. Again, Heaven is in great shape and can take care of itself.

    Again, it’s here on Earth where the problems are: disease, poverty, hunger, violence, etc.

    Everybody talks about heaven, paradise, the afterlife.

    The only thing I know is that I will die into God at the end.
    Good points. Too bad you got banned. There seems to be quite a lot of that around here. That’s should be concerning on a certain level. That level being the suppression of thoughts and ideas of course, if such a thing is in fact occurring.
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    Good points. Too bad you got banned. There seems to be quite a lot of that around here. That’s should be concerning on a certain level. That level being the suppression of thoughts and ideas of course, if such a thing is in fact occurring.
    Aikido was a troll, nor was he an honest poster.

    He was perma-banned because he made a sock to get around a temporary ban.

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    Concerning the OP I get the impression that it's trying to say that in order to be saved a person must become sinlessly perfect as a prerequisite, which as I read it is justification by the law. Eom 10:4,5 Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes. Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law: "The man who does these things will live by them."

    This in contrast to justification by the grace of God through faith alone.

    Rom 10:6-133
    But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’" (that is, to bring Christ down) "or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile— the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

    That as opposed to salvation being contingent upon one's ongoing performance.

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    Am I going to heaven? A hope that is realized is no longer a hope.

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