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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Not the third one.
    The New Jerusalem is brought down after the millennium to earth which is your final abide comrade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    The New Jerusalem is brought down after the millennium to earth which is your final abide comrade.
    The New Jerusalem is the eternal state, the dwelling place of God. It is also referred to as the heavenly kingdom, a kingdom where men in their flesh and blood bodies cannot enter (1 Cor.15:50).

    John was given a vision of the New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven but that doesn't mean that it will end up on the earth because the earth will go up in smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    John was given a vision of the New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven but that doesn't mean that it will end up on the earth because the earth will go up in smoke.

    Old one will be gone.

    But new earth starts under Jesus' control.

    blessings.

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    Gnostic Interpretation:

    "What Happens After We Die

    This lecture is called After We Die. So what happens after we die? I cannot tell you, because it is up to you. The subject or explanation of what happens after we die is incredibly complicated, because it depends on your state of Consciousness.

    I know everybody wants an easy answer. "We all go to heaven or hell," or "we all go to this place were there is a great bright light and all our loved ones are there waiting for us," or "we just simply cease to exist." We all want these kindergarten, simple, Sunday school stories to make us feel better, but the facts are not like that.

    Death is complicated and inevitable, but what happens with it is in your hands: no one else's. Yours.

    The outcome of your death will depend on your state of Consciousness. It depends on how skilled you are at managing your Consciousness. Your state of Consciousness will determine what happens to you after you die.

    So, we need to study these bardos, and understand them very well.

    After death. there are three becomings or betweens. They are death, reality, and rebirth. This second set of three states relates to what happens after the physical body has been discarded. What happens in these three stages depends one hundred percent on how you use your attention.

    So, let us be realistic. I know everybody would like to die peacefully in bed at night and not have any pain, but that is a daydream, a fantasy. The odds are that the majority of us will die suffering. It is just a simple fact. Come to terms with it, and prepare for it now. If we go to the morgue and look at the people who are dead there, the majority of them suffered in some way. It very rare to find someone who had a peaceful, serene death. Most people suffered violence, illness, they suffered emotionally or mentally. So chances are, so will we. We need to be serious about that, and realize it, and prepare for it."

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