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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    No you can't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
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    No problem c3po

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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    No problem c3po
    Just a little question for you, my favorite robot. If all things were set in stone even before the creation that only some men would be saved then why did the Lord Jesus taste death for every man?:

    "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man" (Heb.2:9).

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    Each person lives their lives and makes decisions according to their own free will. God simply knows what the outcome will be. This does not hint that God forces any particular outcome. God does have FOREKNOWLEDGE of all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    Ask Him
    I did and He said that He knows, according to His foreknowledge, that you will answer the question as soon as you read my reply.

    So you know that it is impossible for you not to answer at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journey View Post
    Each person lives their lives and makes decisions according to their own free will. God simply knows what the outcome will be. This does not hint that God forces any particular outcome. God does have FOREKNOWLEDGE of all.
    Since you have it all figured out why do you continue to refuse to answer my question here:

    You did not say whether or not you can act in anyway that goes contrary to what He knows about your future.

    Can you?

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    Is the Future Open?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Just a little question for you, my favorite robot. If all things were set in stone even before the creation that only some men would be saved then why did the Lord Jesus taste death for every man?:



    "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man" (Heb.2:9).

    Ok I'll play.

    This is very simple when we take what scripture says.

    He tasted death for all mankind because all mankind is born condemned with the sin of Adam. God did it be to fair I suppose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Since you have it all figured out why do you continue to refuse to answer my question here:



    You did not say whether or not you can act in anyway that goes contrary to what He knows about your future.



    Can you?

    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    He tasted death for all mankind because all mankind is born condemned with the sin of Adam. God did it be to fair I suppose?
    In what way was it fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    In what way was it fair?

    Ask Him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    In what way was it fair?

    Why is universal death fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
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    I want to ask you something else. Was the Lord Jesus' foreknowledge limited in some way before He even came down to the earth?

    It must have been since He did not know the day and the hour spoken of here, even though the Father knew:

    "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Mt.24:36).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    I want to ask you something else. Was the Lord Jesus' foreknowledge limited in some way before He even came down to the earth?



    It must have been since He did not know the day and the hour spoken of here, even though the Father knew:



    "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Mt.24:36).

    Was the Lord Jesus' foreknowledge limited in some way


    before (key word jerry)


    He even came down to the earth?

    Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    Was the Lord Jesus' foreknowledge limited in some way


    before (key word jerry)


    He even came down to the earth?

    Never.
    So before He came down to the earth He knew the day and the hour but while on the earth he developed a case of amnesia and no longer knew it?

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