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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You do not believe Jesus is God come as a Son of Man, a Son of God. You are the one in confusion, like those who believe in the trinity doctrine.
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    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Thank you for offering your opinion

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    Are you being sarcastic?

    This post from you is no more than a worthless opinion.
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    IS AMR saying the glorified body Christ "now" has is physical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterJoseph View Post
    IS AMR saying the glorified body Christ "now" has is physical?
    What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    What do you think?
    Well what I think has hardley any meaning to anyone

    But I am trying to understand AMR's question, is he leading him to say its physical or is he trying to say its physical....


    Me personally,,not physical at all,it was for the ones he appeared too after he Rose...but he clearly told Pilate.. "My kingdom is not of this world"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterJoseph View Post
    Well what I think has hardley any meaning to anyone

    But I am trying to understand AMR's question, is he leading him to say its physical or is he trying to say its physical....


    Me personally,,not physical at all,it was for the ones he appeared too after he Rose...but he clearly told Pilate.. "My kingdom is not of this world"
    Joh 18:36

    What does the word 'now' mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterJoseph View Post
    Well what I think has hardley any meaning to anyone

    But I am trying to understand AMR's question, is he leading him to say its physical or is he trying to say its physical....


    Me personally,,not physical at all,it was for the ones he appeared too after he Rose...but he clearly told Pilate.. "My kingdom is not of this world"
    The scriptures say that Jesus died, and rose again, and that Jesus was glorified in God's presence.

    What is raised is not the same body as the immortal bodies that die.

    When Jesus comes, we will be raised with a new body like his.

    How could you think that Jesus does not already have a Spiritual body? When he comes, we will see him with his Spiritual body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The scriptures say that Jesus died, and rose again, and that Jesus was glorified in God's presence.

    What is raised is not the same body as the immortal bodies that die.

    When Jesus comes, we will be raised with a new body like his.
    What happened to the body that died on the cross and was placed in the tomb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Joh 18:36

    What does the word 'now' mean?
    Ok it seems He is saying that it is not of this world for now,but it will be later. But I havent put any research into it just what it seems apon reading a few times.. Yes he will come back and the kingdom will be physical is what it seems to imply... But why would he go backwards back to physical? I know why to fulfill prophecy,but to stay in physical state, is that what glorified new earth and bodies means? I hope not.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    What happened to the body that died on the cross and was placed in the tomb?
    Jesus rose from the dead in his body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterJoseph View Post
    Ok it seems He is saying that it is not of this world for now,but it will be later. But I havent put any research into it just what it seems apon reading a few times.. Yes he will come back and the kingdom will be physical is what it seems to imply... But why would he go backwards back to physical? I know why to fulfill prophecy,but to stay in physical state, is that what glorified new earth and bodies means? I hope not.......
    Did Jesus ever cease being physical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus rose from the dead in his body.
    Yes, indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Did Jesus ever cease being physical?
    Well when he left the disciples and returned to the Father as far as our understanding goes yes,,he stopped being physical.. Jesus said,, " I tell you things about the Earth"physical" and you do not believe me,, how can I tell you about the things of Heavan"spiritual"

    I think when He went back to the father He went to the world that Elisha could see , the chariots of fire .


    So when Elisha saw the chariot of fire.. did he stay physical? I cant imagine how.. Same with Jesus... I think I need to study the term "glorified" maybe that will help me understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterJoseph View Post
    Ok it seems He is saying that it is not of this world for now,but it will be later. But I havent put any research into it just what it seems apon reading a few times.. Yes he will come back and the kingdom will be physical is what it seems to imply... But why would he go backwards back to physical? I know why to fulfill prophecy,but to stay in physical state, is that what glorified new earth and bodies means? I hope not.......
    Excellent statement you made asking why Jesus would go back to physical. Jesus is NOT going to come back in an earthly body and live on this world the way it is now. Jesus is going to come back in his Spiritual body, and live with us on the New Earth. However, the Spiritual BODY is a physical body. We have an earthly body, with a spirit inside us. When we die, our spirits live on; at the resurrection, we will be given a new body, it will be a spiritual body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterJoseph View Post
    Well when he left the disciples and returned to the Father as far as our understanding goes yes,,he stopped being physical.. Jesus said,, " I tell you things about the Earth"physical" and you do not believe me,, how can I tell you about the things of Heavan"spiritual"

    I think when He went back to the father He went to the world that Elisha could see , the chariots of fire that took him home.
    Is heaven within creation or exterior to it?

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