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    oh that whacky greasypeas and her double seal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Seal of the meat is a graceandpeace/lovebug/whomever... post. If you can figure her out, you are a better man than I am.

    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=81847



    And squeaky, I don't know how you can compete with gracie.
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    Ok I figured her out. She has a wild imagination. Disciple=milk=hearer of the Word-theology. Apostle=meat=doer of the Word=verse defines verse.
    Milk, meat, born again, revelations of Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Seal of the meat is a graceandpeace/lovebug/whomever... post. If you can figure her out, you are a better man than I am.

    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=81847



    And squeaky, I don't know how you can compete with gracie.
    I said
    I couldnt find her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
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    I couldnt find her.
    She could be busy inspecting some udders.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    She could be busy inspecting some udders.
    Speaking of....
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
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    That was a cute thread. But I'm not here for cute. I'm here to demonstrate the Holy Spirit.

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    The sequence today is born again, milk, meat. Just as a baby is born, fed milk and matures to meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomlapalm View Post
    The sequence today is born again, milk, meat. Just as a baby is born, fed milk and matures to meat.
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    I know they have it backwards. It takes the milk to find the Holy Spirit quoting verses. It takes the meat following the Holy Spirit to crucify all your emotions and feelings. They one has died to self. Now its time to be born again and programmed with the revelations of Jesus Christ which are all verses. I have seen alot that is backwards in the denominations and churches.

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    The Milk, Then The Meat, Then Born Again
    Lies. One need to be born first as a New Born Babe to begin on Milk !

    1 Pet 2:1-2

    Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

    2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

    He calls them new born because of what he just wrote in 1 Pet 1:23

    23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Lies. One need to be born first as a New Born Babe to begin on Milk !

    1 Pet 2:1-2

    Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

    2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

    He calls them new born because of what he just wrote in 1 Pet 1:23

    23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
    I said
    Your interpretation is why so many are going to fall from grace, or be disqualified, or fall short of salvation. Remember those who think they are already born again do not try as hard as those who know that havent made it yet. Well into Pauls walk he knew he hadnt made it yet.

    Phil 3:12
    12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me.
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    GRACE (FALL FROM))( DISQUALIFIED) (FALL SHORT)
    Heb 6:10
    10 For God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
    Luke 1:50
    50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
    2 Cor 5:5
    5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
    Rom 8:27
    27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
    2 Cor 10:4-5
    4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
    5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
    1 Cor 11:31
    31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.
    John 5:22-23
    22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
    23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
    II Jn 1:9-11
    9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
    10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
    11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    Acts 4:12
    12 "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
    Eph 4:4-6
    4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
    5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
    6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
    Eph 4:11-14
    11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
    12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
    13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
    14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
    Col 2:8
    8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
    Heb 10:28-29
    28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
    29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
    Heb 8:13
    13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
    John 14:6
    6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
    Gal 5:1-4
    1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
    2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
    3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
    4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
    Heb 2:1
    1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
    2 Cor 13:5
    5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.
    Rom 3:23
    23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
    Heb 12:15
    15 looking diligently lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;
    Heb 6:10
    10 For God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
    Rev 3:15-16
    15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.
    16 "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
    (NKJ)
    xxThere are so many ways that one can be disqualified, and disciples dont know it. A disciple is a student or beginner in Christianity. Now because someone who has fallen from grace or fallen short or been disqualifed doesnt know it them selves. It is easy for them to lead a disciple down the wrong path. When God has turned a person over to a reprobate mind, the person doesnt have the spiritual knowledge to discern it, and they become the blind leading the blind. Also a hypocrite doesnt know he is a hypocrite. The only evidence of any of this is having less verses now than you had a year ago. Because a christians growth, is in their growing in the Spirit, or in the idea that their still teaching the same thing today that they taught a year ago, if their on the same message. Where is their growth? This is the way to check yourself.


    Rev 2:5
    5 "Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place-- unless you repent.
    (NKJ)

    Luke 13:2-5
    2 And Jesus answered and said to them, "Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things?
    3 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
    4 "Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?
    5 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."
    (NKJ)


    Heb 10:38-39
    38 Now the just shall live by faith; but if anyone draws back, my soul has no pleasure in him."
    39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
    (NKJ)

    Jude 1:1-7

    1 Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ:
    2 Mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.
    3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
    4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
    5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
    6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
    7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    (NKJ)

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    BORN AGAIN STEP BY STEP

    Lets try to clear some things up. No one is a Christian because they say they are. Every Christian has to grow in Spirit until they become born again. And that cant happen until they go through all the steps of being born again.
    And no two Christian are at the same place in their walk. One can be in the milk understanding and another can be in the meat understanding and another can be born again with the revelations of Jesus Christ. Now the milk understanding is three years long, and the meat understanding is atleast eleven years long, and the revelations of Jesus Christ at first are seven years long. Then after that they just keep coming.
    One can be in there first year of the milk, while another can be in their third year of the milk understanding. One can be in their first or second year of the meat while another can be in their tenth or eleventh year of the meat. While some can be in their seventh year of receiving the revelations of Jesus Christ while others can be in their tenth or eleventh year of receiving the revelations of Jesus Christ.
    Here is where the confusion comes in. No one in the milk CAN understand anyone in the meat. And no one in the meat CAN understand anyone in the revelations of Jesus Christ. This is why we trade talents to help and learn from one another. Outsiders will always see it as we are arguing with one another and in reality we are not.
    Those in the milk understanding will always argue emotionally. Those in the meat who are in the process of crucifying their emotions will try to be gentle but with an accational stumbling. Those who have come to the revelations of Jesus Christ will never get emotional because they have crucified their emotions. No one gets it all by themselves without trading talents to gain more.

    Matt 25:15-28
    15 "And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey.
    16 "Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents.
    17 "And likewise he who had received two gained two more also.
    18 "But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his lord's money.
    19 "After a long time the lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them.
    20 "So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, 'Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.'
    21 "His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'
    22 "He also who had received two talents came and said, 'Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.'
    23 "His lord said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your lord.'
    24 "Then he who had received the one talent came and said, 'Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed.
    25 'And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.'
    26 "But his lord answered and said to him, 'You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed.
    27 'So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.
    28 'Therefore take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
    Matt 25:29
    29 'For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away.
    Luke 8:17-18
    17 "For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.
    18 "Therefore take heed how you hear. For whoever has, to him more will be given; and whoever does not have, even what he seems to have will be taken from him."
    John 11:25-27
    25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
    26 "And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?"
    27 She said to Him, "Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world."
    John 12:24-25
    24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much grain.
    25 "He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
    Matt 20:16
    16 "So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen."
    Luke 5:37-39
    37 "And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined.
    38 "But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.
    39 "And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, 'The old is better.'"
    (NKJ)

    Eph 2:1
    1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
    (NKJ)

    Eph 2:4-6
    4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
    5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
    6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
    (NKJ)

    Col 2:11-14
    11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
    12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
    13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
    14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
    (NKJ)

    John 16:21-22
    21 "A woman, when she is in labor, has sorrow because her hour has come; but as soon as she has given birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a human being has been born into the world.
    22 "Therefore you now have sorrow; but I will see you again and your heart will rejoice, and your joy no one will take from you.
    (NKJ)

    Rom 6:5-8
    5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection,
    6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.
    7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.
    8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
    (NKJ)

    2 Cor 5:17
    17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
    (NKJ)

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    Beloved 57 has said the same as I do. You cannot grow as a until you are one.

    The correct sequence is Born again, milk then meat.

    You are conflating conviction of the Holy Spirit that brings us to Christ as milk.

    We cannot even understand the things of God unless we are born again because they are "spiritually discerned"

    1Cr 2:14
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Therefore a lost person can only accept what the Holy Spirit is showing , our lost condition and Jesus as the remedy. Then once saved, born, growth can occur and as changes mature the believer , more substantial truth is accepted.

    The lost cannot even accept milk

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    And if our friend Beloved 57 can see that , that puts you, Squeaky , in rather lonesome territory.

    right B57? just kidding


    I can't believe our Falcons this year. I thought they would do great.

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    I can't believe our Falcons this year. I thought they would do great.
    Yeah I know !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomlapalm View Post
    Beloved 57 has said the same as I do. You cannot grow as a until you are one.

    The correct sequence is Born again, milk then meat.

    You are conflating conviction of the Holy Spirit that brings us to Christ as milk.

    We cannot even understand the things of God unless we are born again because they are "spiritually discerned"

    1Cr 2:14
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Therefore a lost person can only accept what the Holy Spirit is showing , our lost condition and Jesus as the remedy. Then once saved, born, growth can occur and as changes mature the believer , more substantial truth is accepted.

    The lost cannot even accept milk
    I said
    That doesnt even make any sense. Born again. Well apparently you were born once. Or you wouldnt need the again on there. Born again to the Holy Spirit. How can you be born to the Holy Spirit if you dont even know who the Holy Spirit is. Or what He is suppose to teach you. But the Holy spirit leads you to crucify your flesh with all its emotions and feelings. Because you havent even made it to Christ until you have crucified your emotions and feelings. But if you get that done you will receive the revelations of Jesus Christ. That is what I share with people the revelations of Jesus Christ. Remember you havent even made it to Christ until you have crucified your flesh with all its emotions and feelings.

    Gal 5:24
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    (NKJ)

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