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    7th Annual TOL-a-THON starts September 16th

    Get ready folks for the 2013 TOL-a-THON. The 7th annual TOL-a-THON will raise money to pay for our annual dedicated server fee as well as a forum software a upgrade. But the most exciting news is the creation of an all-new TOL smartphone app that will be available in iTunes and Google Play.

    Please consider setting aside some funds to help us reach our goal.

    The 7th annual TOL-aTHON will run from Monday September 16th thru Monday September 30th. More details about the TOL-a-THON will be announced soon.
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    Cool! Looking forward to the TOL-a-THON and the new upgrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Get ready folks for the 2013 TOL-a-THON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Get ready folks for the 2013 TOL-a-THON. The 7th annual TOL-a-THON will raise money to pay for our annual dedicated server fee as well as a forum software a upgrade. But the most exciting news is the creation of an all-new TOL smartphone app that will be available in iTunes and Google Play.

    Please consider setting aside some funds to help us reach our goal.

    The 7th annual TOL-aTHON will run from Monday September 16th thru Monday September 30th. More details about the TOL-a-THON will be announced soon.
    Are you going to issue a financial statement showing your annual revenue and expenses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
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    Yes and no.

    Here's the thing... I run another site similar to TOL that has nothing to do with politics or religion. Recently that site was hacked over and over again. It turned out the old software was insecure. TOL runs on software even older that one. We are at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krsto View Post
    Are you going to issue a financial statement showing your annual revenue and expenses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Yes and no.

    Here's the thing... I run another site similar to TOL that has nothing to do with politics or religion. Recently that site was hacked over and over again. It turned out the old software was insecure. TOL runs on software even older that one. We are at risk.

    I'm still not going to upgrade to the bleeding edge because I don't like the newest version. Instead i'm going to upgrade to the newest version of the version that we are at (if that makes sense).

    I just want to get things more secure.
    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    No.

    You will have to take my word that we need funds to operate. If you don't feel comfortable with that then by all means do not contribute.

    I can tell you that the sever fee alone is near $3000 (annually).
    Nothing personal sir, but I don't take anyone's word for it. Any enterprise that is truly a "non-profit" and needs donations to stay afloat will offer transparency if they have nothing to hide. If you are actually doing this for profit, that is, donations just add to your bottom line rather than enable you to remain solvent, then you should not present the tol-a-thon as you do. I have no problem with you making money, even a ton of money, in fact, I hope you do. I just think you owe it to your "supporters" to be transparent.

    That said, I was thinking about being able to post surveys, which wouldn't be a "donation" but an actual service for a fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krsto View Post
    If you are actually doing this for profit, that is, donations just add to your bottom line rather than enable you to remain solvent, then you should not present the tol-a-thon as you do. I have no problem with you making money, even a ton of money, in fact, I hope you do. I just think you owe it to your "supporters" to be transparent.
    Uh..... you think we make a profit asking for $3,500 for an entire year?

    Like I said.... if you don't feel comfortable helping, then don't.

    As I stated... we use the funds to pay our yearly dedicated hosting fee, software licensing fees, and this year we will be developing a TOL smartphone app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krsto View Post
    Nothing personal sir, but I don't take anyone's word for it. Any enterprise that is truly a "non-profit" and needs donations to stay afloat will offer transparency if they have nothing to hide. If you are actually doing this for profit, that is, donations just add to your bottom line rather than enable you to remain solvent, then you should not present the tol-a-thon as you do. I have no problem with you making money, even a ton of money, in fact, I hope you do. I just think you owe it to your "supporters" to be transparent.

    That said, I was thinking about being able to post surveys, which wouldn't be a "donation" but an actual service for a fee.
    You are a seeker of truth...Well, Knight has given that to you. I believe Knight is transparent, and still visible with all truth; why Knight even posts in threads and share his opinion.


    Then you should not present the TOL-A-THON as you do...
    ... Wrong statement so far as I'm concerned, if Knight was running an illegitimate Christian/Political/Other website, it would soon have cracks and flounder. But Knight, staff, and most TOL members speak the name of the Lord and speak the truth, so TOL WILL STAND! God honors those who honor Him.

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    Yes Knight is a friend and we some outside interests that keep us in touch with each other, it something that only a circle burner would understand.

    But also remember that in some things, it is "NUNYA" Nunya Business, the right doesn't know what the left had is always doing.

    If a person doesn't support something, they'll fall for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    Uh..... you think we make a profit asking for $3,500 for an entire year?

    Like I said.... if you don't feel comfortable helping, then don't.

    As I stated... we use the funds to pay our yearly dedicated hosting fee, software licensing fees, and this year we will be developing a TOL smartphone app.

    Those are the costs that we are attempting to HELP cover. I will pay any excess out of my own pocket as always.
    If I didn't know anything about internet marketing I might not have brought this up but your site has an Alexa rank of 67,461. That means there are only that many sites that get more traffic than yours. My domain Alexa rank for my 3 sites on my one domain just broke a million which was a goal of mine and gives me more impetus to seek out Google AdWords advertising to put on my site like you have on several places. I know of sites that have way less traffic than yours and produce quite a bit of ad revenue so I'm puzzled why your site isn't bringing in the bucks if it's the case that it's not. If it's not, maybe you need to get an expert on the topic to figure out how to capitalize on what you have and then you won't need to do fundraisers. Maybe I only know enough about internet marketing to be dangerous but I find it hard to believe you aren't at least breaking even if not making good money off your site.

    As far as it being none of my business as Psalmist says when I had a non-profit agency and solicited donations I didn't feel I had the luxury to not provide complete financial disclosure to anyone asking and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I had something to hide if I didn't. If you don't have anything to hide, then why are you hiding it?

    Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krsto View Post
    If I didn't know anything about internet marketing I might not have brought this up but your site has an Alexa rank of 67,461. That means there are only that many sites that get more traffic than yours. My domain Alexa rank for my 3 sites on my one domain just broke a million which was a goal of mine and gives me more impetus to seek out Google AdWords advertising to put on my site like you have on several places. I know of sites that have way less traffic than yours and produce quite a bit of ad revenue so I'm puzzled why your site isn't bringing in the bucks if it's the case that it's not. If it's not, maybe you need to get an expert on the topic to figure out how to capitalize on what you have and then you won't need to do fundraisers. Maybe I only know enough about internet marketing to be dangerous but I find it hard to believe you aren't at least breaking even if not making good money off your site.

    As far as it being none of my business as Psalmist says when I had a non-profit agency and solicited donations I didn't feel I had the luxury to not provide complete financial disclosure to anyone asking and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I had something to hide if I didn't. If you don't have anything to hide, then why are you hiding it?

    Just sayin'
    I leave you with this...I stand by Knight, and staff, as being honest with nothing to hide. It's like the O/T states, the things that are God's are God's and the things that are ours belong to us; the point being, again there are things about TOL that are open to all at TOL, and there are things that are behind the scenes and should remain that way which effect the day to day operation TOL that are quite frankly non of our business, if were necessary for all at TOL to know all things I think it would be disclosed.

    I stand by support for TOL in participation, in prayer that TOL is successful operation and with my $$$ what is needed as the occasion arises.




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