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    I'm looking forward to it because we'll begin to see what results will be, positives and negatives. I'm sick of the years of talk. Though I figure there'll still be plenty of that. I wish it were less compromised so we would be better able to look at it.
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    I'm dreading it because it's such a gigantic political football that we're going to be absolutely swamped by lies, slander, and inane bile. EVERYTHING is going to be the fault of "Obamacare" for at least a year, and probably all the way to the next election cycle. Rain in Idaho? - It's Obamacare! An earthquake in Mexico? - It's Obamacare! Some crack whore throws her baby in a dumpster in New Jersey? It's Obamacare! EVERYTHING bad that happens anywhere on the planet, or even just in the fantasies of right-wing lunatics, is all going to be blamed on Obamacare, incessantly, for months and months and months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureX View Post
    I'm dreading it because it's such a gigantic political football that we're going to be absolutely swamped by lies, slander, and inane bile. EVERYTHING is going to be the fault of "Obamacare" for at least a year, and probably all the way to the next election cycle. Rain in Idaho? - It's Obamacare! An earthquake in Mexico? - It's Obamacare! Some crack whore throws her baby in a dumpster in New Jersey? It's Obamacare! EVERYTHING bad that happens anywhere on the planet, or even just in the fantasies of right-wing lunatics, is all going to be blamed on Obamacare, incessantly, for months and months and months.
    This sounds like the liberal playbook on George W. Bush.
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    I am looking forward to it. Outside of the political rhetoric, I think this is a step in the right direction in regards to healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for June 5th, 2013 10:37 AM


    toldailytopic: Obamacare is nearing wide-scale implementation. Are you looking forward to it, or dreading it, and why?

    Not looking forward too it, I think will it cause some insurance companies to go out of business, and a lot of companies to switch workers from full time to part time or eliminate jobs altogether to keep from having to cover employees and think it will ultimately causes taxes to go through the roof. it will create an incentive for more illegals and illegals being allowed to be on it as well and along with all those things, think the economy will ultimately tank.

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    Question, how is this causing raises in insurance costs? I genuinely don't understand that part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTimeless View Post
    Question, how is this causing raises in insurance costs? I genuinely don't understand that part.
    All I know is mine has. Probably something to do with supply and demand--you know, the economic theory that when demand on a goods or services outstrips the supply, the prices of things go up? Mandated healthcare for EVERYBODY means that everybody has access to the supply, and it stands to reason that those who have access are going to utilize it, so prices rise. Make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Vinny View Post
    All I know is mine has. Probably something to do with supply and demand--you know, the economic theory that when demand on a goods or services outstrips the supply, the prices of things go up? Mandated healthcare for EVERYBODY means that everybody has access to the supply, and it stands to reason that those who have access are going to utilize it, so prices rise. Make sense?
    A bit, I also assume since they have to accept everyone it will cost them more money. Especially with the pre-conditions being accepted. But, on the other side, wouldn't they also get more customers since they have to buy anyway? (Unless they pay the mandate fine)

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    Insurance costs have been going up and up and up for 30 years.

    But NOW it's Obamacare's fault!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureX View Post
    Insurance costs have been going up and up and up for 30 years.

    But NOW it's Obamacare's fault!
    But has it gone up substantially since the introduction of Obamacare? If so, then it might very well be the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTimeless View Post
    A bit, I also assume since they have to accept everyone it will cost them more money. Especially with the pre-conditions being accepted. But, on the other side, wouldn't they also get more customers since they have to buy anyway? (Unless they pay the mandate fine)
    Getting more customers as fine, so long as you can handle the increase. You get everyone making claims for everything from cancer to a sprained ankle, and you begin stretching resources, which means hiring more or asking your people to work more hours, which runs into money. Doctors and nurses will want to be paid more, and insurers will want to hire more people to process claims and what-not. All of this gets passed along to the customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Vinny View Post
    Getting more customers as fine, so long as you can handle the increase. You get everyone making claims for everything from cancer to a sprained ankle, and you begin stretching resources, which means hiring more or asking your people to work more hours, which runs into money. Doctors and nurses will want to be paid more, and insurers will want to hire more people to process claims and what-not. All of this gets passed along to the customer.
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    Most of my loot is outside the US and what is here, well, let me say, Obama would be more likely to increase, than decrease it, same as George Bush.

    Oh, this Care-by-the big-O, well, it may as well be Oprah Wimpy, as I will never see any of that mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTimeless View Post
    Question, how is this causing raises in insurance costs? I genuinely don't understand that part.
    Covering people with preexisting conditions and providing coverage for people who pay nothing into the system.

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