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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
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    toldailytopic: Do you believe in ghosts?






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    Perhaps the question would be better phrased "Do you believe ghosts exist?" because to say one believes in something implies that that something has Godly characteristics and such is not the case of ghosts or what Scripture calls spirits. If spirits did not exist, why would we be called to test the spirits and why would God forbid us from conjuring them?

    "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." 1John 4:1-3

    We read in 1Samuel 28 that the ghost/spirit of Samuel was consulted by Saul.

    Other Scripture offers proof of ghosts/spirits:
    "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." 1Timothy 4:1

    "When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living? Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn." Isaiah 8:19-20

    God said:
    "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you." Deut. 18:10-12

    Clearly, ghosts/spirits exist. What need would we have to differentiate between God's Spirit and others by calling Him Holy?
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    Nope.

    Spirits as in angels or demons that work for or against the purposes of God, yes.

    People who have died are not able to communicate with the living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky. View Post
    Nope.

    Spirits as in angels or demons that work for or against the purposes of God, yes.

    People who have died are not able to communicate with the living.

    "Samuel said to Saul, 'Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?' "
    1Samuel 28:15
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    Yes, some of my best friends are ghosts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMJerusha View Post

    We read in 1Samuel 28 that the ghost/spirit of Samuel was consulted by Saul.
    This is one case where God allowed a medium a witch to participate in what God had to say to Saul through Samuel.


    1 Samuel 28:7-8


    7 Then Saul said to his servants, “Find me a woman who is a medium, that I may go to her and inquire of her.”

    And his servants said to him, “In fact, there is a woman who is a medium at En Dor.”

    8 So Saul disguised himself and put on other clothes, and he went, and two men with him; and they came to the woman by night. And he said, “Please conduct a séance for me, and bring up for me the one I shall name to you.”


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    The difference is that what Samuel said to Saul did happen.

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    1 Samuel 28:16-19
    16 Samuel said, “Why do you consult me, now that the Lord has departed from you and become your enemy? 17 The Lord has done what he predicted through me. The Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hands and given it to one of your neighbors—to David. 18 Because you did not obey the Lord or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the Lord has done this to you today. 19 The Lord will deliver both Israel and you into the hands of the Philistines, and tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. The Lord will also give the army of Israel into the hands of the Philistines.”




    1 Samuel 31: 1-6
    31Now the Philistines fought against Israel; and the men of Israel fled from before the Philistines, and fell slain on Mount Gilboa. 2 Then the Philistines followed hard after Saul and his sons. And the Philistines killed Jonathan, Abinadab, and Malchishua, Saul’s sons. 3 The battle became fierce against Saul. The archers hit him, and he was severely wounded by the archers.

    4 Then Saul said to his armorbearer, “Draw your sword, and thrust me through with it, lest these uncircumcised men come and thrust me through and 2abuse me.”

    But his armorbearer would not, for he was greatly afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword and fell on it. 5 And when his armorbearer saw that Saul was dead, he also fell on his sword, and died with him. 6 So Saul, his three sons, his armorbearer, and all his men died together that same day.

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    You would be hard pressed to find another example in Scripture but the difference is that what the spirit of Samuel said did happen. God allowed the spirit of Samuel to communicate with Saul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    toldailytopic: Do you believe in ghosts?
    I do believe that some phenomena exists that we living humans refer to as "ghosts", but exactly what that phenomena is, I have no idea. And I have no particular interest in it.

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    Only the Holy Ghost.
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    Hard to say. Do I believe in the disembodied spirits of people floating around? No. But if something similar to ghosts were to exist, even then, I'm sure it exists in a manner we couldn't comprehend and trying to define it in the same reality we're familiar with is pointless anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMJerusha View Post
    "Samuel said to Saul, 'Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?' "
    1Samuel 28:15
    Samuel was in Abrahams bosom, Christ emptied it. The only "spiritual" entities around the living now are either angelic or demonic.
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    I absolutely believe that ghosts exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for May 20th, 2013 09:05 AM


    toldailytopic: Do you believe in ghosts?






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    Never seen one, but then again I've never seen Glee and I,believe in it.

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    Yep, I do believe they exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    Yep, I do believe they exist.
    Really? You and Granite both...hmm. I admit that surprises me.

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