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    toldailytopic: Which requires the greater faith, atheism or theism?

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    Theism . . .
    "The more scientifically literate, intellectually honest and objectively skeptical a person is, the more likely they are to disbelieve in anything supernatural, including god."

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    I think it's about the same if you just take atheism and theism to mean either there isn't a creator or there is. Keeping all things simple. When you move on to complicate things and introduce religion or various scientific theories that point to a lack of design, then the amount of faith varies. I'd say religion as an extension of theism requires the most faith.
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    I agree with Quincy, it requires more than people think to maintain a lack of faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragTagblues View Post
    I agree with Quincy, it requires more than people think to maintain a lack of faith.
    It is part of a human being's makeup to have faith, to be faithful so of course, being human, we also weigh evidence, seek knowledge, make comparisons, change our minds, evolve and grow.
    Then there is inertia and also the suffering of slings and arrows of outrageous fortune which must be met with "I believe" or "So what?" or "This is more than I can grasp at present!" or any number of variations on a theme of disbelief.
    Belief is simple.

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    Interesting question. I've always thought evolutionism takes more faith than the faith it takes to get saved through Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quincy View Post
    I think it's about the same if you just take atheism and theism to mean either there isn't a creator or there is. Keeping all things simple. When you move on to complicate things and introduce religion or various scientific theories that point to a lack of design, then the amount of faith varies. I'd say religion as an extension of theism requires the most faith.
    I think of religion as a uniform. There are many kinds of uniform out there.
    Faith is a core component. It's there and often, I am surprised by it's comfort.

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    They both require an equal amount of faith.
    TRUST
    is a fragile thing.

    Easy to break, Easy to lose
    and one of the hardest things to
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    I don't know because I have never experienced atheism. Remember that kid who first said to you "I don't believe in God" and then it kind of freaked you out and gave you nightmares. I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragTagblues View Post
    I agree with Quincy, it requires more than people think to maintain a lack of faith.
    I didn't see Quincy saying that at all. And I don't believe we have to, "maintain" a lack of faith. We simply choose not to engage our faith in ... whatever.

    But I agree with Quincy that all human beings must live by faith, atheists and theists alike, because we lack so much relevant information. The differences, then, are in what ideas and concepts each are placing their faith in. The atheist is placing their faith in a non-theistic way of understanding the world around them. Which I think is what you were probably referring to. While the theist places their faith in a God-oriented way of understanding the world around them.

    Is one more difficult than the other? I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    It is part of a human being's makeup to have faith, to be faithful so of course, being human, we also weigh evidence, seek knowledge, make comparisons, change our minds, evolve and grow.
    Then there is inertia and also the suffering of slings and arrows of outrageous fortune which must be met with "I believe" or "So what?" or "This is more than I can grasp at present!" or any number of variations on a theme of disbelief.
    Belief is simple.
    I think there's something built into us - it's a cliché, I know, but that idea of a God-shaped hole that keeps us always searching for Him.

    Belief can be simple - and yet, doubt can really complicate it. There are times when I've thought, "what if this is all nothing, just a human construct to make sense of the world?" and it's a scary thought. It's faith that carries me through those times. Reason can only take us so far. I think sometimes the reasoning is where all the work is at, and we work so hard at it - while faith is a gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    I think there's something built into us - it's a cliché, I know, but that idea of a God-shaped hole that keeps us always searching for Him.

    Belief can be simple - and yet, doubt can really complicate it. There are times when I've thought, "what if this is all nothing, just a human construct to make sense of the world?" and it's a scary thought. It's faith that carries me through those times. Reason can only take us so far. I think sometimes the reasoning is where all the work is at, and we work so hard at it - while faith is a gift.
    Yup!
    One of my mantra's is "When we say yes to one thing we are saying no to the other possibilities". It is the only way to move forward and accomplish something. The lack of a decision is truly a faithless position. Better to make a decision and act on it. If the results are not satisfactory then you can rule out that behavior and try something else.
    Faith is just keeping on in the face of whatever comes our way. I believe that God cares about me. That is the foundation of my ability to function in this life.

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    I think humanity (especially since God allowed us to have freewill) has a natural inclination to reject God rather than to accept him; therefore, I think it takes less faith to be an atheist, because all they have to do is just be themselves and think in human ways.

    In order to perceive God, LORD, and savior it takes divine enlightenment to take us beyond human contemplations into enlightenment, and then we must trust in the revelation. That's what faith is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ps82 View Post
    I think humanity (especially since God allowed us to have freewill) has a natural inclination to reject God rather than to accept him; therefore, I think it takes less faith to be an atheist, because all they have to do is just be themselves and think in human ways.

    In order to perceive God, LORD, and savior it takes divine enlightenment to take us beyond human contemplations into enlightenment, and then we must trust in the revelation. That's what faith is.
    I see it differently.

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    Believing in something is believing.

    Thinking positively about something takes no more work than thinking negatively.

    It is simply a decision to decide what you will choose to think.

    Sometimes it may seem like swimming upstream sometimes not.
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