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    Quote Originally Posted by kmoney View Post
    Catholics don't believe they earn salvation.
    It is the Vatican's official position that a person partake in the event, and they can lose it. Therefore, they earn salvation.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

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    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    It is the Vatican's official position that a person partake in the event, and they can lose it. Therefore, they earn salvation.
    If no human cooperation is necessary and no action according to human will is meaningful, why isn't everyone saved?

    The only alternatives are to either maintain that God simply can't be bothered to communicate his grace to those who aren't saved, or that he actively wills their damnation.
    "So as not to exchange one evil for another, this poor land must be saved from the scourge of friend and foe alike." - Friedrich Schiller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire View Post
    If no human cooperation is necessary and no action according to human will is meaningful, why isn't everyone saved?
    Who said anything about cooperation? We are talking good works. The Lord Jesus Christ said to enter into life, keep the commandments. Do you deny he said that?
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire View Post
    If no human cooperation is necessary and no action according to human will is meaningful, why isn't everyone saved?

    The only alternatives are to either maintain that God simply can't be bothered to communicate his grace to those who aren't saved, or that he actively wills their damnation.
    Fist you have to have total faith in the risen Christ, I mean bone deep total! Then you receive Grace, and Grace, or the Holy Spirit, if you prefer, guides you into a better will and happiness, so what you do is good because you are in Christ. Before Grace, you have no hope unless you believe in Him who saves. The rest is easy.
    So, what?

    believe it!

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