You really crack me up, Jerry.
I'd forgotten that your confused hybrid (or mix) also includes various of Anderson's 28er-isms, turned into the final word on a thing by you in your "books based" incompetence.
Fact is "books based expert" that all Romans was, was a written form of what Paul had been preaching about and teaching for many years.
He says so in Romans itself (in Romans 1, in Romans 15, and in Romans 16).
Put away your confused Acts 2er / Acts 13er / Acts 28er hybrid, or mix, and get in THE Book.
Romans is nothing more than a written form of things Paul had been preaching and teaching this side of Acts 9 after Israel was concluded Uncircumcision, or under sin with the Gentiles by the end of Acts 7.
At which point, God sealed Israel's Believing Remnant, concluded the rest in Unbelief, and temporarily set aside said Believing Remnant's Hope.
Acts 10 having actually been a witness of a change in the Circumcision/ Uncircumcision distinction: a change that began with the first Jew / Israelite saved - in Uncircumcision - into the Body: Paul, in Acts 9.
All of which was settled many years before Paul laid out in written form (Romans) all that he had been preaching and teaching, long before he wrote Romans...
Acts 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Result?
What God was now doing among the Gentiles via an Apostle of the Gentiles, is heard out.
Acts 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
Result?
Acts 10's intended witness...
Acts 15:13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Resulting understanding?
That their (the Believing Remnant's) Hope had been delayed...
15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
Resulting conclusion?
Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
Result?
They were all on the same page about these things by Acts 15.
Which is why he writes of wishing peace upon both groups at the end of Galatians.
This, in the midst of a disruption of that Acts 15 peace.
Which had been disrupted by Judaizers behaving no better towards Paul's Gentile converts, than Peter himself, and even Barnabas, and so on, had behaved towards Paul's Gentile converts.
A peace between them that relies on both their following the same above rule of thumb, or principle...
Galatians 6:12 As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. 6:13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
Yep - as intended by God: The Law had proven all under sin - "no difference between us and them."
Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Good old Romans a decade before Paul wrote Romans.
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
Paul, would you please quit citing Romans principles in Galatians (and in all your letters prior to, and after Romans) - you're making "books based" Jerry look bad.
Jerry, Jerry, quite, contrary.
You've rendered yourself useless as a witness of these things by your confused Acts 2 / Acts 13 / Acts 28 hybrid, or mix.
Romans 5:6-8.
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Note: Peter's "no difference" there in Acts 15: 9 and Acts 15:11 is basically the assertion that both groups having been concluded under sin by the Law, that both are saved on the principle of grace.
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