User Tag List

Page 1 of 6 1234 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 211

Thread: ARE THE 12 APOSTLES IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280

    ARE THE 12 APOSTLES IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

    Hi to all , and during the Pastor Bill Root ministry , they were talking about , " were the 12 IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

    I knew that it was a raging question , at that time !!

    Can you give verses for EITHER POSITION ?

    dan p
    Last edited by DAN P; December 11th, 2012 at 01:58 PM.

  2. #2
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi to all , and during the Pastor Bill Root ministry , they were talking about , " were the 12 IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

    I knew that it was a raging question , at that time !!

    Can you give verses for EITHER POSITION ?

    dan p

    Hi and I am sure that Acts 2 people put eveyone together and even some dispensationalist , also !!

    dan p
    Last edited by DAN P; November 17th, 2012 at 01:31 PM.

  3. #3
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi to all , and during the Pastor Bill Root ministry , they were talking about , " were the 12 IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

    I knew that it was a raging question , at that time !!

    Can you give verses for EITHER POSITION ?

    dan p

    Hi , and I am sure that the ONE GOSPEL people lump all believers together and even some dispensationalist do also ??

    I never could never understand how Israel could also be in the Body of Christ and then still be Jewish ??

    dan p

  4. #4
    Pep! Lighthouse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Anderson, IN
    Posts
    20,553
    Thanks
    1,052
    Thanked 12,493 Times in 9,617 Posts

    Blog Entries
    1
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    1734445
    You know what they say about people who talk to themselves...


  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Lighthouse For Your Post:

    Tambora (April 26th, 2016)

  6. #5
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    You know what they say about people who talk to themselves...

    Hi , and so far no one has answered , and when I write my proof text , it is the only one in my opinion that answers that problem OF THE 12 in 12 OUT and is another POWERFUL verse for the Acts 9:6 position of why the Body of Christ began with SAUL / PAUL !!

    DAN P

  7. #6
    Over 500 post club
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    505
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    1464
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi to all , and during the Pastor Bill Root ministry , they were talking about , " were the 12 IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

    I knew that it was a raging question , at that time !!

    Can you give verses for EITHER POSITION ?

    dan p
    What are the differences between being "in" and "out" of the Body of Christ?

  8. #7
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by surrender View Post
    What are the differences between being "in" and "out" of the Body of Christ?

    Hi , and some dispensationalist , believe that the 12 Apostles , will not only sit in the Milleninnal Kingdom but also be in the Body of Christ at the SAME TIME !!

    To me , it is like SAUL/PAUL is saved by the Kingdom , but is also in the Body of Christ and this is an Acts 28 , position !!

    dan p
    Last edited by DAN P; November 16th, 2012 at 05:25 PM.

  9. #8
    Over 500 post club
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    505
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    1464
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi , and some dispensationalist , believe that the 12 Apostles , will not only sit in the Milleninnal Kingdom but also be in the Body of Christ at the SAME TIME !!

    To , it is like SAUL/PAUL is saved by the Kingdom , but is also in the Body of Christ and this is an Acts 28 , position !!

    dan p
    That didn't answer my question. What's the big deal here with this two gospel phenomenon? What are the differences between being "in" or "out"? I don't see that there are any significant differences. Both supposed groups are partakers in the new covenant, both are born again, both are assured eternal security, and both find their salvation in the life, death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. Messiah Jesus is the Messiah, the chosen and anointed one of God, the King of Israel and the Lord of the Gentiles.

  10. #9
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by surrender View Post
    That didn't answer my question. What's the big deal here with this two gospel phenomenon? What are the differences between being "in" or "out"? I don't see that there are any significant differences. Both supposed groups are partakers in the new covenant, both are born again, both are assured eternal security, and both find their salvation in the life, death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. Messiah Jesus is the Messiah, the chosen and anointed one of God, the King of Israel and the Lord of the Gentiles.


    Hi and those in the Kingdom will be " Kings and Priests " in the Millennium , which is and Earthly Kingdom , Rev 1:6 !!

    The Body of Christ will be an Heavenly in nature , and is different from Israel .

    There are 6 Gospel that Paul mentions and are split into 9 different Parts .

    The New Covenant is Israel's and NOT for the Body of Christ as Eph 2:12 PROVES !!

    What you wrote is MOOT !!

    DAN P
    Last edited by DAN P; November 16th, 2012 at 05:26 PM.

  11. #10
    Over 500 post club
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    505
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    1464
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and those in the Kingdom will be " Kings and Priests " in the Millennium , which an Earthly Kingdom , Rev 1:6 !!

    The Body of Christ will be an Heavenly in nature , and is different from Israel .

    There are 6 Gospel that Paul mentions and are split into 9 different Parts .

    The New Covenant is Israel's and NOT for the Body of Christ as Eph 2:12 PROVES !!

    What you wrote is MOOT !!

    DAN P
    Eph. 2:12 proves that at one time we were strangers to the covenants and now we are not.

  12. #11
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi to all , and during the Pastor Bill Root ministry , they were talking about , " were the 12 IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

    I knew that it was a raging question , at that time !!

    Can you give verses for EITHER POSITION ?

    dan p

    Hi , and IF the 12 are in the Body of Christ , it is impossible for the 12 apostles to remain Jews as " in Christ " no one is Jews or GENTILES bond or free , but neither are they MALE or FEMALE , for then Jews will not be Jews and there will be no Millennial Kingdom !!

    dan p

  13. #12
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi , and IF the 12 are in the Body of Christ , it is impossible for the 12 apostles to remain Jews as " in Christ " no one is Jews or GENTILES bond or free , but neither are they MALE or FEMALE , for then Jews will not be Jews and there will be no Millennial Kingdom !!

    dan p

    Hi , and 1 Cor 15:8 , explains to very important things !!

    #1 , " And last of all He was seen by me also , as if it was an Untimely Birth ".

    #2 , The KJV , has it " as of one Born out of Due time ".


    #3 , There was only ONE that born out of due time , and it was Saul !!


    #4 , So , if Saul was born out of due time !! who will be born " in due time ??

    #5 , It is Israel that will be " born in due time ".


    #6 , Israel will be " born again " at the end of the Great Tribulation !! Matt 24:29_31 and Rev 1:7 and as He comes back , and every EYE shall Him whom they Pierced !!

    #7 , So , we see that Israel will always be Israel , Separate from the Body of Christ !!

    #8 , This is another portion of the bible that proves that a New Dispensation has began and that Paul is the new leader and also Disproves the One Gospel , does alway with Water Baptism does alway with the Law of Moses and Tongues , and Renders Acts 2 , IMPOTENT , along with Covenant theology !!

    dan p

  14. #13
    Old Timer Guyver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Tardation
    Posts
    263
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    114
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi , and 1 Cor 15:8 , explains to very important things !!

    #1 , " And last of all He was seen by me also , as if it was an Untimely Birth ".

    #2 , The KJV , has it " as of one Born out of Due time ".


    #3 , There was only ONE that born out of due time , and it was Saul !!
    He said "as" Dan. That doesn't mean he was. Are you aware of what a simile is?

    Check this link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simile

    If I were doing an especially good job at whatever I was doing at the time, and I said, "I'm on fire!" Do you think that I would be saying that I am literally on fire, and flames are melting away my body...

    Or am I using a figure of speech?
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

  15. #14
    Over 4000 post club
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    L.A.
    Posts
    4,552
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 347 Times in 284 Posts

    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    160280
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    He said "as" Dan. That doesn't mean he was. Are you aware of what a simile is?

    Check this link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simile

    If I were doing an especially good job at whatever I was doing at the time, and I said, "I'm on fire!" Do you think that I would be saying that I am literally on fire, and flames are melting away my body...

    Or am I using a figure of speech?

    Hi , and here is a Literal word for word translation that I found , of 1 Cor 15:8 !!

    " And last of all He was seen by me also , as if it were and Untimely Birth ".

    In 1 Cor 15:8 it is literal , as SAUL was separated from birth , Gal 1:15 , is not a figure of speech !!

    When was SAUL separated , In 1 Tim 1:9 or in Gal 1:15 ??


    As far as what Gal 3:28 means ??

    There 4 verb tenses in verse 28 !!

    #1 , There is / ENI --- in the Present Tense and Indicative Mood

    #2 , There is / ENI ---in the Present Tense and Indicative Mood

    #3 , There is /ENI ---in the Present Tense and Indicative Mood

    #4 , Are /ESTE ------in the Present Tense and Indicatve Mood

    The Present Tense , means that there is CONTINUING Results and will continue until the " Fulness of the Gentiles become in " , which means to me the Departure/Rapture of the Body of Christ , Rom 11:25

    dan p

  16. #15
    Black Rifles Matter Nick M's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    15,928
    Thanks
    575
    Thanked 6,947 Times in 4,644 Posts

    Mentioned
    33 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    2147776
    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    " were the 12 IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??
    They had to endure to the end to be saved, so no. And they are going to sit on twelve thrones over the twelve tribes. That is their inheritance.

    We are joint heirs, brought near by the blood and we receive his life.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
About us
Since 1997 TheologyOnline (TOL) has been one of the most popular theology forums on the internet. On TOL we encourage spirited conversation about religion, politics, and just about everything else.

follow us