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    Even Our Faith !

    1 Jn 5:4

    4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

    This is the victory that overcometh the world, even our Faith. Yes this is speaking of the Believers Faith, only its not his Faith from being born out of the flesh, but of that new constitution which was born of the Spirit, the New Man of Eph 4:24

    24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

    Or Born out of incorruptible seed 1 Pet 1:23

    23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    This Man is Created or born unto True Righteousness and Holiness. But as men of the flesh who had nothing but a human birth, we have no Faith that is pleasing to God, let alone Victorious over the World, Flesh and Devil ! Rom 8:7-8

    7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    Its not the natural man that becomes a Believer in Christ 1 Cor 2:14

    14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    And Christ in Preaching is set forth by the Spirit of God, the Preacher merely delivers the spoken message, but its the Spirit that must reveal Christ out of the Spoken Word. 1 Thess 1:5

    For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

    So its not the natural man that receives Christ in Faith, but the Spiritual Man, born of God, that's who Believes. John states that here also John 1:12-13

    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    Those who received Him during His Public Appearance had been Born of God.

    Now I know that some proud religionists will think that the faith that overcomes the World was their own natural faith out of the flesh of them, a faith they had within apart from being made a New Creature. So in essence they became overcomers of the world by their own faith in the flesh, that's quite an accomplishment for the natural man to boast and glory about, if it was true.

    So The " even our Faith" is the Faith of the Believer, but its the Believer who had First been made a New Man by New Creation Eph 4:24

    And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

    The word new here for new man is not new in time, but in kind "new" as to form or quality, of different nature from what is contrasted as old.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    The work of faith with power

    2Thess 1:11

    Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

    Its denied by those in organized religion that Faith , which believes in Christ in a conversion salvation experience, is effected by the power of God. Its not the natural ability of man.

    The work of Faith with Power was began by the Power of the Holy Spirit within one and its carried out to its completion by that same Power.

    Now that this Faith or Believing is first effected by God's Power is seen in Eph 1:19

    19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

    20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

    Plain and simple, who believe according to the working of His Mighty Power, that power being usward !

    Rom 1:16 confirms the same


    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Its God"s power being exercised when the results are one is believing the Gospel.

    One believes when the Gospel comes in the power of the Spirit 1 Thess 1:5

    5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

    And that's what Paul is stating about being fulfilled in them here 2 Thess 1:11

    11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

    Peter writes that believers are kept in Faith by the Power of God 1 Pet 1:5

    5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

    This Faith is of the New Creation and it is sustained by the same Power that Created it or begat it , this to the Glory of God, particularly, God the Spirit !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    God is going to restore his people.
    Thus saith Jehovah: Behold, I will turn again the captivity of Jacob's tents, and have compassion on his dwelling-places; and the city shall be builded upon its own hill, and the palace shall be inhabited after its own manner.
    19And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.
    20Their children also shall be as aforetime, and their congregation shall be established before me; and I will punish all that oppress them.
    21And their prince shall be of themselves, and their ruler shall proceed from the midst of them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach unto me: for who is he that hath had boldness to approach unto me? saith Jehovah.

    22And ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
    Jer 30:18

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Prophet View Post
    God is going to restore his people.
    Thus saith Jehovah: Behold, I will turn again the captivity of Jacob's tents, and have compassion on his dwelling-places; and the city shall be builded upon its own hill, and the palace shall be inhabited after its own manner.
    19And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.
    20Their children also shall be as aforetime, and their congregation shall be established before me; and I will punish all that oppress them.
    21And their prince shall be of themselves, and their ruler shall proceed from the midst of them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach unto me: for who is he that hath had boldness to approach unto me? saith Jehovah.

    22And ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
    Jer 30:18
    Did you understand post 77 and the points made ?
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Believing for the sake of Christ !

    Phil 1:29

    29 For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,

    All those who shall believe on Christ as a result of Salvation, it is because it has been granted/given to them to do so. The reason why it has been so granted , was because of His Blood Shed for them, and because its being granted to Him, in other words, He prays that for those He died for to be be made believers through the Word of His chosen messengers Jn 17:19-20

    19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.


    20 I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;

    All for whom He died and rose again, them He also maketh intercession for in behalf of in heaven Rom 8:33-34

    33 Who shall bring a charge against Gods elect? It is God who justifies.

    34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

    The word intercession is the greek word ἐντυγχάνω

    I meet, encounter, hence: (b) I call (upon), make a petition, make suit, supplication.

    It means a prayer to God on behalf of another.

    Christ by His Presence before God, constantly intercedes on behalf of all for whom He died, He makes Petitions for them.

    Believers are the answer to Christ's petition and intercession. Lets look at a Psalm here Ps 2:7-8

    I will declare the decree:
    The Lord has said to Me,
    You are My Son,
    Today I have begotten You.

    8 Ask of Me, and I will give You
    The nations for Your inheritance,
    And the ends of the earth for Your possession.

    Hence it was these that Christ interceded for in the Nations, and whom Paul understood would be made obedient to the Faith as Christ's possessions Rom 15:18

    18 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

    The ESV :

    18 For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to bring the Gentiles to obedienceby word and deed,

    They are made obedient in the day of His Power Ps 110:3, the day of Gospel Power Rom 1:16

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    The Gospel power here converting them makes manifest that they were part of the possessions, inheritance the Father gives the Son upon His Intercession for them.

    Rom 1:5

    5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:


    Rom 16:26

    26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, aaccording to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

    Paul here is asserting that in answer to Christ's Intercession to the Father, the messengers are sent out with the Gospel to all nations to bring about their obedience to Christ, or to faith !

    All this obedience is in accordance with Christ's Intercession for those He died world wide, and their obedience to the Faith is granted for His Sake or on His Behalf Phil 1:29

    29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

    In other words, the privilege of trusting in Christ for Salvation was a bestowing upon all for whom He died and makes Intercession for, and their believing is an answer to His petition of interceding, for Believers are but manifestations of the Son's Redeemed Possessions Ps 2:7-8

    7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

    8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Faith is by Jesus Christ !

    Acts 3:16

    16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

    The word by is the prep dia which means:

    through, on account of, because of

    Faith to believe in Christ, and His Power is because of Him. Many false teachers tell us that Faith is an human attribute of the natural man, that is a lie. Faith is an Spiritual Grace given in New Birth of the Spirit, the Spirit of Christ. Its a Grace alloted to all the Heirs, the Seed, the Children of Promise. Peter writes in 2 Pet 1:1

    Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:


    The word obtained is the word λαγχάνω

    I obtain (receive) by lot, my lot (turn) is, (b) I draw lots.

    The word lot denotes: allotted share or portion: to receive one's lot of an inheritance.

    The Holy Spirit is given as part of their Inheritance Eph 1:13-14

    13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    14 Which is the earnest or down payment of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

    And its as a result of the Spirit Given, that the Fruit of Faith is given Gal 5:22

    22 But the fruit of the Spirit[Given] is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    And so Faith to believe and rest in Christ is by Him. Its given to all the Joint Heirs with Him Rom 8:17

    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    For Christ is that Heir [Seed]of Abraham to whom all the Promises were made Gal 3:16-18

    16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

    18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

    All the Seed shall receive Faith as an down payment of their Inheritance with Christ, the Seed of Abraham.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    All men have not Faith given to them !

    2 Thess 3:1-2

    Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

    2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.

    What this means in a primary regard is that all men have not been given born again of the Spirit, for the natural man does not have faith, for faith has to do with Spiritual things not seen or visible to the natural eye, as well as Hope Rom 8:24

    24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

    Yes this Hope comes from the New Birth, which is the fruit of Christ's Resurrection, which is the evidence of His Saving Death 1 Pet 1:3

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,;

    And man by nature can only walk by sight, to what he see's, whereas to walk by Faith is the opposite as depicted here 2 Cor 5:7

    7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight ), and it is written also Heb 11:1
    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Its unnatural for the natural man to walk by Faith !

    For Faith is the fruit/product of the Spirit, hence we receive in New Birth the Spirit of Faith 2 Cor 4:13

    13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

    To say that the natural man has faith Heb 11:1,6 is not true, it's anti scriptural, something those in the flesh have no capability of doing !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    Beloved57 is a, "hyper-Calvinist!" His beliefs are extreme, that's why He's in his "own little camp!!'' He's what I would call a, "Calvinist cultist!!"
    I'd throw him in with Carpenter, but OTC and B-57 would anathemize eiach other over the duty-faith issue.

    I don't think B-57 is the only one who holds the beliefs he holds, but they are an extreme minority.

    I'm what you'd call "Calvinist" and I still say he's nuts.

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    Saving/Converting Faith is from the Spirit's Work !

    2 Thess 2:13

    13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

    Saving Faith or belief of the Truth, is the Result of the Saving Work of the Spirit in Regeneration Titus 3:5

    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    And so Faith or Belief of the Truth is but evidence of a saved state, a New Life given, because a person in a lost state cannot exhibit a consious act of Faith or belief, for such an act of Faith is Spiritually and supernaturally induced by the Power of the Spirit working within one ! Phil 2:12-13

    12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

    13 For it is God which worketh[putting forth power] in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

    We believe by God putting forth power in us, so Paul says Eph 1:19

    19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Why does one believe on Christ ?

    Why does one believe on Christ ? Because they have been made righteous or just by the obedience of Jesus Christ Rom 5:19

    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    The word righteous here is the word dikaios:

    righteous, observing divine laws

    in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

    of those who seem to themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves in their virtues, whether real or imagined

    innocent, faultless, guiltless

    used of him whose way of thinking, feeling, and acting is wholly

    conformed to the will of God, and who therefore needs no rectification in the heart or life

    only Christ truly

    approved of or acceptable of God

    The word is also translated 33x as the word Just, and its used here Rom 1:17

    17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

    So Rom 5:19 can read:

    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made Just !

    And what is the Promise to the Just in Rom 1:17 ? The Just shall do what ? The Just shall live by Faith. Meaning everyone Christ died for, shall be made to live by Faith.

    All for whom He died Righteousness has been imputed to them, and the Just or Righteous shall live by Faith [Heb 11:1].

    All who have been made Righteous by the obdience of Christ, shall be made Godly in this present world , which Godliness begins with the acknowledging of the Truth Titus 1:1

    Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

    So everyone whom Has Christ's Righteousness imputed to their charge, shall be made to Live by Faith or Believe on Christ !
    Last edited by beloved57; February 10th, 2014 at 07:18 PM.
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    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Is Faith the Gift of God too ?

    Is Faith the Gift of God too ? Yes, of course Faith is the Gift of God also, given through Christ. Wheb God gave Christ, He gave with Him, all things for Life and Salvation Rom 8:32

    32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

    Rom 6:23

    23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    The word Gift here is the greek word charisma and means:

    a favour with which one receives without any merit of his own

    the gift of divine grace

    the gift of faith, knowledge, holiness, virtue

    the economy of divine grace, by which the pardon of sin and eternal salvation is appointed to sinners in consideration of the merits of Christ laid hold of by faith

    grace or gifts denoting extraordinary powers, distinguishing certain Christians and enabling them to serve the church of Christ, the reception of which is due to the power of divine grace operating on their souls by the Holy Spirit

    You see that ? The Gift of God is Eternal Life through Jesus Christ, and with that Gift comes The Gift of Faith !

    Faith is the Gift of God because it accompanies Salvation Heb 6:9 and Christ, for those He was given in behalf of, He is their Salvation Lk 2:30
    For mine eyes have seen thy salvation !

    Faith is the Fruit of the Spirit of God Gal 5:22

    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    The word fruit here also means:

    work, act, deed

    So the work of the Spirit[in us] effects love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    Our Believing is the result of the Work of God the Spirit in Us Jn 6:29

    Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work or fruit of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

    Faith is the fruit of the Spirit which Spirit we receive when quickened from the dead as Per Eph 2:1,5

    And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )

    And such is the work of the Spirit of God mediated through Christ Jn 6:63

    63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    This proves also that Christ's Disciples that received His words at this time, all except judas, had been already quickened by the Spirit, because they were receiving Christ's words which were to them Spirit and Life. Remember Peter said Jn 6:68

    68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

    Jesus also said of them Jn 17:8

    8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

    This could only be possible if they were quickened to Life by the Spirit, and So Faith that embraces and rests in Christ for Salvation is the Gift of God issuing from New Birth or Quickening of the Spirit. David said Ps 80:18

    18 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name [in Faith].

    This doctrine is even found in the OT scriptures !

    Now if this were not the case, Faith that Pleases God would not be possible because #1. A person in the flesh, not yet quickened or born of the Spirit, such a one cannot please God Rom 8:8

    8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. and Faith does please God Heb 11:6.

    And #2, A spiritually dead person cannot spiritually understand the Word of God, which words are Spirit and Life Jn 6:63.

    For man by nature does not understand Rom 3:11

    11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

    Notice also here that the word understandeth is coupled with the word seeketh, the same word joined to Faith Heb 11:6 which pleases God ; and Saving Fruitful Faith does have an element of Spiritual Understanding as denoted here Matt 13:23

    23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty,
    some thirty.

    Thats the same word understandeth in Rom 3:11. That should let us know that the man in Matt 13:23 is a born again man ! And these verses denotes the natural man's inability to understand Divine Truth 1 Cor 2:14

    14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know[understand] them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Christ and His Gospel in order to profit us must be spiritually discerned !

    Jn 3:3

    3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see[understand, discern,perceive] the kingdom of God.

    And the Gospel is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God Mk 1:14-15

    Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

    And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Through Faith !

    Eph 2:8

    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    The difference in saved on account of Faith and by means of Faith, it is this, our God given Faith in New Birth is the means by which the Holy Spirit uses for an application of the Knowledge of ones Salvation Lk 1:77

    77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

    That Salvation comes through having their sins forgiven, which is by and through the Blood of Christ Eph 1:7

    7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

    John the baptist knew about this because He knew that Christ was that Lamb of God Jn 1:29 that taketh away the sin of the world[of God's People], which is another way of saying remission of sins, and so Faith is given to those who have had their sins remittied that they come to know of it spiritually !

    Faith is an instrument of means to convey spiritual Knowledge ! Thats because Spiritual Knowedlge cannot be conveyed to the mind of the flesh, which is enmity against God Rom 8:7

    7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    And it can only mind the things of the flesh Rom 8:5

    5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Faith is a Gift of God !

    We know Faith is a Spiritual Grace from a Supernatural Source because we read of it this comment 1 Pet 1:7

    7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

    When genuine Faith is tested by the varius trials, it cannot perish, because its born out of that Incorruptible Seed. 1 Pet 1:23

    23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    The word incorruptible [aphthartos] means:

    uncorrupted, not liable to corruption or decay, imperishable

    Now certainly , this kind of Faith is not t o be found in the nature and flesh of unregenerate men !

    The Lord Jesus Christ is the Author and Finisher of this type of Faith, whom Himself endured many trials with it ! Heb 12:2-3

    2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

    3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

    Thats the type Faith given the believer who was begotten out of the Incorruptible Seed, the Word of God, which is Christ Jn 1:1, who is the Author of this type Faith !

    Those who falsely teach that this Faith is in the old man of the flesh by nature, are liars and deceivers, and they are attempting to steal the Praise, Honour and Glory of it for themselves !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Faith is not from the natural man !

    Many of the religionists who are full of themselves, they boast of Faith in Salvation being something that is in man by nature, but they are liars. The Faith that pleases God as Per Heb 11:6 is not in the natural man, for the natural man cannot please God Rom 8:7-8

    7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    The natural man is anyone born of natural generation by our natural parents. That makes us carnal by nature. The word carnal sarx means:

    B.used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship
    i.
    born of natural generation

    And so in this condition, we cannot please God, which Faith that Pleases God does according to Heb 11:6

    6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    And yet proud religionists will still insist that the carnal natural man has Faith !

    Now here in Heb 11:1,6 the Faith that Pleases God comes from the Author and Finisher of It, the Lord Jesus Christ Heb 12:1,2

    Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

    2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

    In other words religionists, that Faith which pleases God Heb 11:6, Jesus Christ is the Author and Finisher of !

    The Father has said on many occasions this Matt 3:17

    And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    The Prophet of old speaking of Christ writes Isa 42:21

    The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

    Now, it is this Faith, that of the Son of God, whom the Father is well Pleased, that is the Faith that Pleases God.

    This is the Faith Paul means here Gal 2:20

    I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    All for whom Christ died, He gives them a portion of His Faith in the New Birth.

    That's why Peter calls it this 2 Pet 1:1

    Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

    That word obtained λαγχάνω:


    obtain by lot
    A.
    to receive by divine allotment, obtain


    II.
    to cast lots, determine by lot

    An allotment is a portion ,to furnish with a portion, as with an inheritance or a dowry

    the part of an estate that goes to an heir or a next of kin.

    So Faith is allotted to all the Joint Heirs of Jesus Christ whom He died for. Remember Rom 8:17

    17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    And Christ allots them a portion of their Inheritance in Him, Faith. Rom 12:3

    For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

    We know this is not speaking of all natural men, for they cannot please God. This is speaking of every man who are Heirs of God and Joint Heirs of Jesus Christ, remember, before Rom 12:3 we read of Rom 8:17 !

    So Faith that pleases God Heb 11:6 cannot be out of the flesh, its out of the Son of God, the Author and Finisher of it and gives it to all His Joint Heirs, Chosen in Him before the foundation. Eph 1:4.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Faith cometh by hearing of the Word of God! 4

    Rom 10:17

    17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    This statement is extremely important, and abused by religionists. They suppose that Hearing here is done by the natural man in the flesh, not born again, however that is not even close to the Truth. Let me explain, Jesus made a very important statement as to who Hears the Word of God, or the Words of God; Jn 8:43

    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

    Jesus told some jews that they cannot hear His Word, meaning they did not have the ability to hear it, yes the could hear it physically and Audibly, naturally, however what Jesus means by this statement is that they COULD NOT hear it Spiritually, they did not have Spiritual Ears by New Birth.

    Listen, when Jesus says He that hath a Ear, as here Rev 2:7,11,17,29 let him Hear, He means he that has spiritual ears from New Birth from His Resurrection 1 Pet 1:3,23.

    Now lets look at another statement Jesus said about the ability or lack of ability to hear God's word. Jn 8:47

    47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

    That's it folks, He that is of God heareth God's Words. Now what does it mean to be of God ?

    The word of is the prep ek and means I.out of, from, by, away from, Its etymology is:

    A primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative
    So what Jesus is saying, He that is Born out of God is the one who hears God's Words Spiritually.

    Born of God scriptures to consider in this matter 1 Jn 3:9

    Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    1 Jn 4:7

    Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

    1 Jn 5:1

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

    This scripture specifically collaborates Jesus Words of Jn 8:47, its being stated here exactly who it is that Believeth Jesus is the Christ, those having been born of God !

    1 Pet 1:23

    Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    Here the prep ek is used as to being born out of the incorruptible Seed, by the Word of God [The Living Word] Jn 1:1 who was God in the Flesh Jn 1:14.

    So these things scripture testifies to, it does not matter who the person is, how religious they are, how learned they are, unless a person has been born of God, they cannot hear [spiritually] God's word, and so the Faith they have is not the Faith of Rom 10:17.

    Also I say this, if any man, say they heard and believed the Gospel unto Salvation before they were Born of God, they are a Liar, and the Truth is not in them !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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