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    Great!

    What do you not understand?
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Great!

    What do you not understand?
    It took a lot of effort for the guy in the video to pull off the orange peel.

    When did the crust of the earth get pulled off and put back on top of the mantle, and what were the forces that pulled off the crust and replaced it?
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    Uh.... It didn't. Only the parts I cut off the orange got removed. The rest I had to separate from the orange in order to show how the plates moved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Uh.... It didn't. Only the parts I cut off the orange got removed. The rest I had to separate from the orange in order to show how the plates moved.
    But the crust cannot move unless it is separated from the mantle.
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    Yep. Subterranean water was separating the crust from the mantle. The crust was created within water, not attached to the mantle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Yep. Subterranean water was separating the crust from the mantle. The crust was created within water, not attached to the mantle.
    Are you referring to the Conrad discontinuity or the Mohorovičić discontinuity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Are you referring to the Conrad discontinuity or the Mohorovičić discontinuity?
    The firmament created within water, dividing the waters above from the waters below. The thing that ruptured forming the fountains of the great deep. The crust of the Earth, according to the Hydroplate Theory, was not attached in any significant way to the mantle.

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    I think this thread has run its course. Thanks for your time, genuineoriginal.

    See you in the trenches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    I think this thread has run its course. Thanks for your time, genuineoriginal.

    See you in the trenches.
    I think there is one more thing to address.

    Flood Phase. Each side of the rupture was basically a 10-mile-high cliff. Compressive, vibrating loads greatly exceeded the rock’s crushing strength in the bottom half of the cliff face, so the bottom half continually crumbled, collapsed, and spilled out into the jetting fountains. That removed support for the top half of the cliff, so it also fragmented and fell into the pulverizing supersonic flow. Consequently, the 46,000-mile-long rupture rapidly grew to an average width of about 800 miles all around the earth.Water trapped in the spongelike openings in the chamber’s roof and floor was steadily forced into the chamber during the flood, so the hydroplates settled slowly. Sediments swept up in the escaping flood waters gave the water a thick, muddy consistency. These sediments rapidly settled out over the earth’s surface, trapping and burying many plants and animals. The world’s fossils then began to form.
    According to the Hydroplate Theory, there was an 800 mile gap between South America and Africa that was spewing water and mud up both sides of the gap onto the continents, burying plants and animals to form fossils.

    The fossil beds show a continuity across oceans that cannot be explained by an 800 mile gap and sediment flowing in opposite directions on either side of the gap.


    To a lot of people, it looks like the continents were joined together during the time the sediment layers were deposited.
    Since the sediment layers were deposited during the flood, the continents were joined during the time of the flood, not separated as they need to be to fit the Hydroplate Theory.
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    Deposition either side of the rupture would have been very similar.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Deposition either side of the rupture would have been very similar.
    The evidence from Paleocurrents disagrees.

    What are Paleocurrents?
    Paleocurrents are directions of movement of fluid and the entrained particles responsible for the
    formation of sedimentary rocks. These current directions can be retrieved from sedimentary
    rocks by measuring the direction and/or sense of paleocurrent indicators preserved within the
    rocks themselves. These paleocurrent indicators include crossbeds, ripple marks, flute and
    groove casts, parting lineations, fossil orientations, imbrications and other more obscure features
    of sedimentary rocks. Crossbeds are faint layering visible in sandstones and other clastic rocks
    (rocks made of particles of other rocks sandstone, shale, etc.) that strike diagonally across the
    thickness of the beds. Ripple marks are miniature dunes resulting from the transport of sand and
    mud that are often seen on the banks of rivers and streams. Flute casts, groove casts and tool
    marks are structures reflecting deposition in turbidites and other mass flow phenomena that are
    seen most often on the underside of rock layers. Parting lineations are trains of sand grains
    exposed when layers of sandstone are pried apart that reflect the movement of the grains during
    deposition. Imbrication is the domino-like orientation of clasts resulting when the grains achieve
    the most stable position during deposition. All of these features are capable of yielding the kinds
    of data required for reconstruction of paleocurrents.
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    How?
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    How?
    Sedimentary layers that span continents show that the water flowed across South American and Africa at the same time with the same sediment and the same pre-fossilized plants and animals.

    This would not happen if the water erupted from the middle of the areas covered with the same sediment, since the sediment would be different on both sides of the gap and would not show the continuity that led to the acknowledgment of Pangaea as a super-continent.

    The water flow from the Hydroplate Theory would come from the Atlantic and towards the coastlines on either side of the Atlantic washing over both sides and continuing away from the Atlantic, but the Paleocurrents show many different directions of water flow that do not correspond to the flow which would be predicted from the Hydroplate Theory.

    The "fit" of the continents of South America and Africa led scientists into searching for evidence that would prove whether the land masses were joined, and they discovered plenty of evidence. Dr. Brown doesn't address that evidence, but concentrates only on the "fit" and the Mid-Atlantic Ridge to show how the continents could not have been joined together. This is understandable, since Dr. Brown is one of the first to make sure people know that he is not a geologist.

    But it is the geological evidence that prevents me from accepting the Hydroplate Theory as the definitive answer.

    I think this is the best explanation I have seen for the flood:
    Eden as Pangea and the Flood as a Mass Extinction: Catastrophes at the Time of the End
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    The water flow from the Hydroplate Theory would come from the Atlantic and towards the coastlines on either side of the Atlantic washing over both sides and continuing away from the Atlantic, but the Paleocurrents show many different directions of water flow that do not correspond to the flow which would be predicted from the Hydroplate Theory.
    Seds were not deposited by erupting or fast moving waters.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Seds were not deposited by erupting or fast moving waters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
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