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    toldailytopic: Does God require those in the Body of Christ keep the Law?

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    The law was only meant to show us right and wrong. When Jesus came and was crucified he nailed the old law to the cross and gave us a new covenant and better one too, as it mentioned in Hebrews. We are free under the new law, but we should still hold to the ideals set in the old law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
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    No, The Righteous Shall Live By Faith!

    Gal. 3:8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you all the nations will be blessed.”
    Gal. 3:9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham.
    Gal. 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written, “Cursed is everyone who doesn’t continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them.”
    Gal. 3:11 Now that no man is justified by the law before God is evident, for, “The righteous will live by faith.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman View Post
    No, The Righteous Shall Live By Faith!

    Gal. 3:8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you all the nations will be blessed.”
    Gal. 3:9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham.
    Gal. 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. For it is written, “Cursed is everyone who doesn’t continue in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them.”
    Gal. 3:11 Now that no man is justified by the law before God is evident, for, “The righteous will live by faith.”

    No man is justified by the law but don't forget faith when not coupled with good works is dead James 2:14

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    Does God require those in the Body of Christ keep the Law?
    If by "the law" you mean the Torah, or Mosaic Law Code---what Paul refers to as "works of the law" (Rom. 3:20)---then the answer is no. If, however, you mean obedience to the commands of Jesus Christ (God's moral "law")---what Paul describes as "faith working through love" (Gal. 5:6) and "the obedience of faith" (Rom. 1:5), then yes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Fontenot View Post
    No man is justified by the law but don't forget faith when not coupled with good works is dead James 2:14
    John 6:28 ¶ They said therefore to him, “What must we do, that we may work the works of God?”
    John 6:29 ¶ Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
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    Romans 13:10

    "Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    toldailytopic: Does God require those in the Body of Christ keep the Law?



    No!

    Romans 3:21-22 KJV But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

    Romans 10:4 KJV For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

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    No. Jesus Christ fulfilled all the obligations of the Old Covenant of Works (Law) and his spiritual children have all been re-established by God's grace, under the New Covenant of Grace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    toldailytopic: Does God require those in the Body of Christ keep the Law?
    Dear Knight,

    When a man does Ro10:9, he fulfills Php2:11 and has surrendered once and for all, his will to the risen Lord Jesus Christ. He becomes a Christian. A Christian is an individual member of the Body of Christ 1Co12:12, and the Body of Christ is literally the risen Lord Jesus Christ here on earth, His flesh and His bones Eph5:30. Everything the man does from then on is the Lord doing it in and through him Gal2:20.

    There is nobody who keeps the Law perfectly.

    So there are either no Christians, or God does not require those in the Body of Christ to keep the Law.

    In Him,
    -Jed

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    If by "Law" you mean Jewish law, then no.

    If by "Law" you mean the moral law, then yes. That was one of Jesus' core commandments (Mk 12:31).

    Paul is also pretty straightforward about keeping the moral law (Rom 8:12-13). His entire letters to the Corinthians are dealing with immoral lifestyles (1 Cor 6:8-10, 1 Cor 5:5). But we love our neighbor through God's grace and the Spirit, not through our own power. There is no room for boasting when the law is fulfilled through the spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippy2006 View Post
    If by "Law" you mean Jewish law, then no.

    If by "Law" you mean the moral law, then yes. That was one of Jesus' core commandments (Mk 12:31).

    Paul is also pretty straightforward about keeping the moral law (Rom 8:12-13). His entire letters to the Corinthians are dealing with immoral lifestyles (1 Cor 6:8-10, 1 Cor 5:5). But we love our neighbor through God's grace and the Spirit, not through our own power. There is no room for boasting when the law is fulfilled through the spirit.
    1 John 2: 3-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman View Post
    John 6:28 ¶ They said therefore to him, “What must we do, that we may work the works of God?”
    John 6:29 ¶ Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
    Acts 2:37-38

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    Yes. And to keep it perfectly.

    Of course, there is only one way to do that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Fontenot View Post
    No man is justified by the law but don't forget faith when not coupled with good works is dead James 2:14
    Wrong gospel. James said you are justified by works. That is circumcision.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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