According to MY Gospel:

[lifeisgood]

NO!! – Under the Law, there was no accepting it, or not accepting it. - The blood removed their sins regardless.

So, if I understand correctly, the people in Matthew 3:7; Matthew 12:34; Matthew 23:33; and Luke 3:7 were saved REGARDLESS of accepting or not accepting the blood shed by the Savior on the Cross? Even though they rejected the sacrifice they were saved?

Or maybe you are talking about the animal blood sacrifices, if that is so, they still had to accept that they needed blood to have their sins covered. Maybe that's where my confusion comes from. I am thinking of the blood sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross and MAYBE you are thinking of the animal blood sacrifices. Don't know.

However, that’s not the case with the washing of the Saints that the Lord shed the water for. - The Lost and the Jews must accept the Gospel, ( which is the Water of the Word ) which is to those who are without Christ, Jew and Gentile, or “ALL” GENTILES.Paul – 050512

But they have to accept the blood, there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood.

My understanding of the WATER in the BIBLE is being baptized in water AFTER accepting the BLOOD shed on the Cross by the Savior in my place. The water does not save me, the shedding of the blood and my accepting it, is what saves me.

[Letsargue]

So, if I understand correctly, the people in Matthew 3:7; Matthew 12:34; Matthew 23:33; and Luke 3:7 were saved REGARDLESS of accepting or not accepting the blood shed by the Savior on the Cross? Even though they rejected the sacrifice they were saved?

Or maybe you are talking about the animal blood sacrifices, if that is so, they still had to accept that they needed blood to have their sins covered. Maybe that's where my confusion comes from. I am thinking of the blood sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross and MAYBE you are thinking of the animal blood sacrifices. Don't know.



But they have to accept the blood, there is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood.

My understanding of the WATER in the BIBLE is being baptized in water AFTER accepting the BLOOD shed on the Cross by the Savior in my place. The water does not save me, the shedding of the blood and my accepting it, is what saves me.

I suppose there is just NO HOPE for most of you!!!

When Jesus started His ministry, John the Baptist had already changed the Law to the Baptism of Repentance. ( READ IT ), -There was no longer an animal blood sacrifice required for sin. John, being the High Priest of the most High, changed the Law to death, and being buried, or dying to the Law and Sin. - But Jesus a while later added the Resurrection to John’s Baptism, the death, and burial; - making it the Death, Burial “AND” the Resurrection. – YOU ALL HAVE REJECTED IT!!

Paul – 050612

[lifeisgood]

When Jesus started His ministry, John the Baptist had already changed the Law to the Baptism of Repentance. ( READ IT )

It has a spiritual meaning, even though it was happening in the physical realm. I think that's what is being said.

There was no longer an animal blood sacrifice required for sin.

Because Jesus was here. I got it.

John, being the High Priest of the most High, changed the Law to death, and being buried, or dying to the Law and Sin.

Because of repentance. OK.

But Jesus a while later added the Resurrection to John’s Baptism, the death, and burial; - making it the Death, Burial “AND” the Resurrection. – YOU ALL HAVE REJECTED IT!! Paul – 050612

No, Letsargue, we have not all rejected it. There are many who have accepted the Life, Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ for salvation, sanctification, and eternal life.

[Letsargue]

It has a spiritual meaning, even though it was happening in the physical realm. I think that's what is being said.



Because Jesus was here. I got it.



Because of repentance. OK.



No, Letsargue, we have not all rejected it. There are many who have accepted the Life, Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ for salvation, sanctification, and eternal life.

Just because you say you have accepted it, has nothing to do with the reality of it. There is not a single person on earth today that has any idea what Christ and His salvation is about ( period )

You cannot reject a single word of God and have anything to do with God! Every time any of you opens your mouth in witnessing of Christ you slay Him again in your hearts. That's nothing to boast about!

None of you can prove your own doctrines, much less prove mine wrong! - 2 Timothy 4:5 KJV -&- 2 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV - None of you could possible believe those and teach the things you do without God saying any of them.

Paul -- 062412

[beloved]

letsargue.................

[Letsargue]

letsargue.................

That's the limit of your world's knowledge of God today.

Paul -- 062412

[beloved]

think again.............

[Letsargue]

think again.............

You tell me just what it is that I'm to re-think.

Paul -- 062412

[beloved]

the limit of my world's knowledge of God today.
worldly knowledge?...........come on.....you are not my enemy.

[Letsargue]

the limit of my world's knowledge of God today.
worldly knowledge?...........come on.....you are not my enemy.

If you are not among the Hosts of Christ, then there is only one other host you can be among, and it's called the father of all lost, or dark angels. That's why God gave us the Sword, to defend Him against all His enemies! --- ?

Paul -- 062412

[beloved]

truth agreed.

[Letsargue]

truth agreed.

You agree with me? - Don't let the rest of this bunch see it!

Paul -- 062512

[Jacob]

No you have NOT, -- If you’ve been Born Again, then you have Died, and Resurrected, and then been Raptured, AND YOU HAVE NOT!!!
Neither one of your Scriptures deals with THAT present day, - but the future, by “PROMISE”. – No one at that time had “received” anything of Christ, until His final coming, and you cannot show that they had!!! - Eternal Life, the Place Prepared, the Kingdom, NOTHING BUT THE
“PROMISE” TO RECEIVE!! – READ THE BOOK, AND STOP ADDING TO IT!! All nations were not BLESSED until AD70; not a year before, or after!!

Paul – 041712

Shalom.

My response was not adequate but I do not know how to answer you.

Shalom.

Jacob