Eric Defends Christian Political Strategy
Tuesday November 8th, 2005. This is show # 222.
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Tuesday November 8th, 2005. This is show # 222.
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Eric Defends Christian Political Strategy
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Yeah. Those are kind of important.
the Sibbie
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Umm, they didn't say they weren't.Granite said:
Oh, nevermind...I saw "biggest." But, I guess they also said, "They are not the crises." not "They are not crises." But you know what they mean.
"Abortion is the biggest crisis we face in this country and in this world. It's not terrorism. It's not oil prices. It's not oil shortages. It's not how big an SUV we can buy. Those are not the crises."
Ah. I misspoke. Then I'll clarify: I personally think terrorism is a bigger threat to us right now than abortion, only because more can be done to curb abortion immediately.
Ah. I misspoke. Then I'll clarify: I personally think terrorism is a bigger threat to us right now than abortion, only because more can be done to curb abortion immediately.
Yeah... I am not sure I would have worded it the way Brian did however I think it's pretty obvious the point he was making.
Which was...
Abortion is a BIGGER crisis than terrorism and oil prices.
Which was...
Abortion is a BIGGER crisis than terrorism and oil prices.
One Eyed Jack
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Granite said:
I'd have to disagree. We lose more people to abortion than we've ever lost to terrorism.
One Eyed Jack said:
That may be but I'm talking about an imminent threat to myself personally. Between abortion and terrorism, one endangers my life and the lives of my loved ones. As heinous and sickening as abortion may be, I do not have to worry about someone dissecting my siblings or burning my parents alive in saline. I do sometimes wonder about a bomb going off somewhere.
It's the difference, perhaps, in a child getting abducted two states over, and a maniac showing up in your own neighborhood. Neither is "good" in any way, but one hits closer to home.
Granite it isn't a great idea to define the seriousness of a "crisis" based on how it personally effects yourself.
I think Brian was accurately speaking about a crisis in general, not a crisis for you individually.
I think Brian was accurately speaking about a crisis in general, not a crisis for you individually.
OK, I see what you mean. This leads me to a, perhaps, more challenging question for you Granite.Granite said:
What if the abortion law was expanded to include children up to age 4, and daily, people were legally killing off the young kids they decided they no longer wanted by the dozens or more. Which would be the greater crisis, this or the kind of terrorism we see today? Using your logic above, it would appear that you'd still say "terrorism." Am I right to assume that?
Fair enough. I'll admit that my plan was to keep reducing the arbitrary age of 4, bit by bit, down to the date of birth to see how/if your philosophy changed on this. Putting your philosophy to the test so to speak.Granite said:
Be careful of the scenarios that you see as not "plausible." In general, I think people can recognize and are appalled by most evils, especially those involving the taking of innocent life. At the same time, however, people have shown that they can and will tolerate injustice when issues of injustice don't personally impact themselves and/or if they're sanctioned by the law of the land.
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