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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    I have read a little bit about bending flats and doing builds, but I had no idea where he was going with the 3 D printer.
    We probably read the same article about building a lower receiver from a 3-D printer. These printers are not cheap. They are worth more than the guns they would build. My understanding may be off, but I believe 3-D printers are somewhat the same as SLA machines. The SLA machines I used could build whatever parts I designed so long as I gave the machine an *.stl file format of the CAD part. SLA parts made this way are rigid plastic, but they are somewhat susceptible to UV. I imagine 3-D printers have solved that issue.

    I have seen sheet metal stampings that can be turned into an AK receiver and AR receivers that just need drilling and tapping. The nice thing about these for the machining enthusiast is that you can mail order the parts. I haven't done it because I don't have a break for bending the sheet metal or a decent drill press or mill for the AR unfinished receiver.
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    I had a friend who got busted by the BATF for making guns in his machine shop. He got off with fines, but it was scary. They surprise raided his house. He came out on the porch after answering the door and lots of guys with guns had his house surrounded. I would check laws carefully. He was definitely breaking some rules though. (he died from a brain tumor about 10 years ago)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero45 View Post
    I had a friend who got busted by the BATF for making guns in his machine shop. He got off with fines, but it was scary. They surprise raided his house. He came out on the porch after answering the door and lots of guys with guns had his house surrounded. I would check laws carefully. He was definitely breaking some rules though. (he died from a brain tumor about 10 years ago)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero45 View Post
    I had a friend who got busted by the BATF for making guns in his machine shop. He got off with fines, but it was scary. They surprise raided his house. He came out on the porch after answering the door and lots of guys with guns had his house surrounded. I would check laws carefully. He was definitely breaking some rules though. (he died from a brain tumor about 10 years ago)
    Good advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaquero45 View Post
    I had a friend who got busted by the BATF for making guns in his machine shop. He got off with fines, but it was scary. They surprise raided his house. He came out on the porch after answering the door and lots of guys with guns had his house surrounded. I would check laws carefully. He was definitely breaking some rules though. (he died from a brain tumor about 10 years ago)
    I'm going to guess he got busted for breaking the rules rather than for making guns. He was probably either building weapons that required a tax stamp, without getting one first, or selling them.

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    May I ask a question?

    Having never even held a gun, I have no idea about these things... but, there has been a massive increase in shootings in Adelaide of late and I was wondering about the kick-back from guns...

    Do they all have a kick-back? If you had no experience firing a weapon, how difficult would the kick-back make shooting accurately? I assume that guns held to the shoulder would cause bruising but what about a hand gun? Can that cause damage to the forearm from the kick-back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder's Muse View Post
    Do they all have a kick-back? If you had no experience firing a weapon, how difficult would the kick-back make shooting accurately? I assume that guns held to the shoulder would cause bruising but what about a hand gun? Can that cause damage to the forearm from the kick-back?
    All guns have recoil (kick back) to a degree, in some of the smaller calibers it is negligible depending on how sensitive the shooter is. Most people relate to recoil via pain, bruising, the feeling the weapon will jump out of their grip but that can be remedied through proper position and the manner one holds the weapon, as well as some weapons now have been designed to reduce the recoil but not all of them.

    Best thing to do is simply find a gun dealer with a range and try out various calibers. Just keep in mind as your ability/training advances you will be able to deal with larger calibers to a point depending on your personal comfort level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightbringer View Post
    All guns have recoil (kick back) to a degree, in some of the smaller calibers it is negligible depending on how sensitive the shooter is. Most people relate to recoil via pain, bruising, the feeling the weapon will jump out of their grip but that can be remedied through proper position and the manner one holds the weapon, as well as some weapons now have been designed to reduce the recoil but not all of them.

    Best thing to do is simply find a gun dealer with a range and try out various calibers. Just keep in mind as your ability/training advances you will be able to deal with larger calibers to a point depending on your personal comfort level.


    Thanks Lightbringer

    Just my curiosity about how it all works, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder's Muse View Post
    Thanks Lightbringer

    Just my curiosity about how it all works, really.
    Cool, enjoy the experience if you decide to become Annie Oakley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightbringer View Post
    Cool, enjoy the experience if you decide to become Annie Oakley.


    I was reading about her not long ago...

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    One of my favorite quotes.

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    Recently bought my first semi-auto pistol. Picked up a S&W M&P 40 compact. Nice gun. Feels good, no problems shooting it and perfect for conceal carry. Holds 10+1. Should be plenty in the event I ever need it.

    Of Course, it costs a fortune to shoot but its nice to look at
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    Quote Originally Posted by Choleric View Post
    Recently bought my first semi-auto pistol. Picked up a S&W M&P 40 compact. Nice gun. Feels good, no problems shooting it and perfect for conceal carry. Holds 10+1. Should be plenty in the event I ever need it.

    Of Course, it costs a fortune to shoot but its nice to look at
    Try feeding a 50 caliber rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomO View Post
    Hey that's cool...Nowadays they break down your door at 2:00 am. and shoot your dog
    Shoot the dog ya mean Fido doesn't at least rate a taser, mace or how about a bone. Poor Fido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Choleric View Post
    Recently bought my first semi-auto pistol. Picked up a S&W M&P 40 compact. Nice gun. Feels good, no problems shooting it and perfect for conceal carry. Holds 10+1. Should be plenty in the event I ever need it.

    Of Course, it costs a fortune to shoot but its nice to look at
    If you can afford to buy 500 rds at a time, it is much cheaper to shoot. You should only have to run a box or two of hollowpoints to assure reliability before switching to "cheaper" flat points. I like the .40 S&W caliber round, as does my wife.
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