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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    And to answer the question directly, I am new to it. I think it works exactly as they designed. You shoot with both eyes open, greatly reducing long term strain. It is ideal for those that kick in doors, or shooters on a PSD.
    It's kind of funny...I always shoot with both eyes open because although I'm right handed I'm left eye dominant. This being the case it's very easy for me to use iron sights with both eyes open, in fact I would say it's more natural than trying to shoot closing one.
    I guess it's one of those things that you would assume to be a handicap but winds up being an advantage.

    Either way Attero Arms came up with a reflex sight mount for Kalashnikovs which I would actually see myself using. There have been numerous attempts made to develop optic mounts for these weapons and I have never liked a single one yet....except this. *meh* Maybe I'll get it one day....for now I'll stick with my ghost ring set-up.

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    That looks like the same design as the L3 product. There are other red dot sights. I was looking at one already mounted (not mine). The ACOG. Besides being a grand, it is an actual scope that you get close to. I like the EOTech design better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    That looks like the same design as the L3 product. There are other red dot sights. I was looking at one already mounted (not mine). The ACOG. Besides being a grand, it is an actual scope that you get close to. I like the EOTech design better.
    I like the holographic design better myself. I think for an AK platform it would definitely be better considering the distance between the eye and the optic mount which would be necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomO View Post
    I like the holographic design better myself. I think for an AK platform it would definitely be better considering the distance between the eye and the optic mount which would be necessary.
    Okay, as a rank beginner in the firearm arena. I received my "Permit to purchase a firearm" from the County Sheriff's office.
    Now I wish to purchase a small pistol for self defense. I shall take a gun safety course before I ever put a bullet into the chamber!
    My son says you need something big enough to be a deterrent. But, I don't want to kill my neighbors in the next condo as well as an intruder!
    So, my question is "What do you suggest is a good pistol for an elderly lady who is really scared of guns?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    Okay, as a rank beginner in the firearm arena. I received my "Permit to purchase a firearm" from the County Sheriff's office.
    Now I wish to purchase a small pistol for self defense. I shall take a gun safety course before I ever put a bullet into the chamber!
    My son says you need something big enough to be a deterrent. But, I don't want to kill my neighbors in the next condo as well as an intruder!
    So, my question is "What do you suggest is a good pistol for an elderly lady who is really scared of guns?".
    My personal favorite for beginners (as well as what I'm carrying at the moment):


    Smith & Wesson J-Frame


    I carry mine; so it has a short (2") barrel and a shrouded hammer so it doesn't get hung up on clothing. It also has an aluminum alloy frame so it is lighter:



    Basically, I would say any good quality .38 Special revolver is a good starter. Revolvers are very simple weapons to master and the .38 Special is a very adequate defense round.

    You may also look into possibly a .357 Magnum Revolver. This would be similar to the .38 Special revolver but is built on a heavier/larger frame. You can shoot .38 Specials out of a revolver chambered for .357 Magnum and there would be less recoil. The weapon itself would be heavier though so this is a matter of personal preference. If you did choose this route though you could always move up to full power .357 Mag. loads if you became more proficient and comfortable with the weapon.

    In the end it is going to be what you are comfortable with. I would suggest going to a local shooting range and trying out some rental guns with someone who is familiar with handguns and would be able to move you toward a weapon you would be comfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    I received my "Permit to purchase a firearm" from the County Sheriff's office.
    You should move to America.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    You should move to America.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    Well, I may be in the Twilight Zone but I'm definitely an American citizen living in Minnesota.
    I went to the gun shop and bought a "Smith and Wesson" 5 shot revolver.
    I'm going to sign up for Gun Safety classes before I use it.
    It is a real production for law-abiding citizens to purchase a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomO View Post
    My personal favorite for beginners (as well as what I'm carrying at the moment):


    Smith & Wesson J-Frame


    I carry mine; so it has a short (2") barrel and a shrouded hammer so it doesn't get hung up on clothing. It also has an aluminum alloy frame so it is lighter:



    Basically, I would say any good quality .38 Special revolver is a good starter. Revolvers are very simple weapons to master and the .38 Special is a very adequate defense round.

    You may also look into possibly a .357 Magnum Revolver. This would be similar to the .38 Special revolver but is built on a heavier/larger frame. You can shoot .38 Specials out of a revolver chambered for .357 Magnum and there would be less recoil. The weapon itself would be heavier though so this is a matter of personal preference. If you did choose this route though you could always move up to full power .357 Mag. loads if you became more proficient and comfortable with the weapon.

    In the end it is going to be what you are comfortable with. I would suggest going to a local shooting range and trying out some rental guns with someone who is familiar with handguns and would be able to move you toward a weapon you would be comfortable with.
    Thanks, I appreciate the in put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    Well, I may be in the Twilight Zone but I'm definitely an American citizen living in Minnesota.
    I went to the gun shop and bought a "Smith and Wesson" 5 shot revolver.I'm going to sign up for Gun Safety classes before I use it.
    It is a real production for law-abiding citizens to purchase a gun.
    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    Thanks, I appreciate the in put.
    No problem.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    "I may be in the Twilight Zone but I'm definitely an American citizen living in Minnesota."
    Toto, I don't think we're in Amerika anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomO View Post
    No problem.....


    You really move fast.
    That's why I need to take a gun safety class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bybee View Post
    It is a real production for law-abiding citizens to purchase a gun.
    Maybe someday some states like California, Minnesota, New York, Illinois, etc etc will have people that stop voting for immoral godless candidates. Probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Maybe someday some states like California, Minnesota, New York, Illinois, etc etc will have people that stop voting for immoral godless candidates. Probably not.
    I don't know how it happened here. We were a staunchly Republican state espousing conservative values.
    We've elected some good solid Republican Governors and Senators in the past.
    Now we have Amy Klobuchar who is pretty middle-of-the-road, and of course Al Franken stole the election from Norm Coleman.
    I'm still hanging my head in shame over that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    Toto, I don't think we're in Amerika anymore.
    Sometimes I wonder.

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