Favor or Pro Quid Pro

eider

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You aren't making sense. He isn't getting your vote. It is his choice if he wants the vote of pro lifers.

That would look much better if all the Pro-Lifers supported babies AFTER their births, for health, sustenance, education, safety etc.
 

God's Truth

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That would look much better if all the Pro-Lifers supported babies AFTER their births, for health, sustenance, education, safety etc.

You act like you are all for the poor, but you don't want them to procreate. Kill their flesh and blood is your argument.
 

jgarden

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Trump never told Cohen to lie — but suggested it by talking in code, Cohen says
FEBRUARY 27, 2019 01:54 PM


President Trump's former longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified on Capitol Hill for the House Oversight Committee. In his opening statement, Cohen called Trump a racist, con man and cheat.

Michael Cohen said in testimony to Congress on Wednesday that President Donald Trump never directly ordered him to lie, but instead made his wishes clear by speaking in “code” understood by anyone who works with him.

“He doesn’t give you questions, he doesn’t give you orders, he speaks in a code. And I understand the code, because I’ve been around him for a decade,” testified Cohen, Trump’s former longtime personal attorney.

For example, Cohen said Trump would frequently remark that he had no business ties in Russia. Cohen said he understood Trump to mean that he should deny any such connections.

Cohen also gave a theoretical example of Trump complimenting someone on a necktie and others feeling forced to agree, regardless of their opinion of the attire. Trump would use such statements to indicate how he wanted Cohen or others to portray the situation under discussion, Cohen said.

https://www.miamiherald.com/article226865474.html
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Cohen was employed as Trump's lawyer and "fixer" for a decade before he was convicted and sentenced for felonies `he committed while in the service of "SUBJECT 1!"

As Cohen testified, this President speaks in code without ever stating explicitly that he wanted a "pro quid pro," but expecting anyone working for him to understand his meaning!

Trump, is a practitioner of that age old verbal skill of communicating. without actually stating his literal intentions. in order to establish "DENIABILITY" should such requests as "DO US A FAVOR" become subject to legal scrutiny!
 
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God's Truth

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Trump never told Cohen to lie — but suggested it by talking in code, Cohen says
FEBRUARY 27, 2019 01:54 PM


President Trump's former longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, testified on Capitol Hill for the House Oversight Committee. In his opening statement, Cohen called Trump a racist, con man and cheat.

Michael Cohen said in testimony to Congress on Wednesday that President Donald Trump never directly ordered him to lie, but instead made his wishes clear by speaking in “code” understood by anyone who works with him.

“He doesn’t give you questions, he doesn’t give you orders, he speaks in a code. And I understand the code, because I’ve been around him for a decade,” testified Cohen, Trump’s former longtime personal attorney.

For example, Cohen said Trump would frequently remark that he had no business ties in Russia. Cohen said he understood Trump to mean that he should deny any such connections.

Cohen also gave a theoretical example of Trump complimenting someone on a necktie and others feeling forced to agree, regardless of their opinion of the attire. Trump would use such statements to indicate how he wanted Cohen or others to portray the situation under discussion, Cohen said.

https://www.miamiherald.com/article226865474.html
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Cohen was employed as Trump's lawyer and "fixer" for a decade before he was convicted and sentenced for felonies `he committed while in the service of "SUBJECT 1!"

As Cohen testified, this President speaks in code without ever stating explicitly that he wanted a "pro quid pro," but expecting anyone working for him to understand his meaning!

Trump, is a practitioner of that age old verbal skill of communicating. without actually stating his literal intentions. in order to establish "DENIABILITY" should such requests as "DO US A FAVOR" become subject to legal scrutiny!

Okay, maybe, but, there is nothing wrong with wanting to find out how much corruption Biden is in, since Biden was Obama's vice president, and some bad things were being done to Trump by governmental officials under Obama/Biden.

I like what Trump has been doing for America. So much good stuff.
 

eider

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You act like you are all for the poor, but you don't want them to procreate. Kill their flesh and blood is your argument.

My argument is what I write, not how you manipulate my words.
My post said that Prio-Life should support babies AFTER birth as well as before.
 

jgarden

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Okay, maybe, but, there is nothing wrong with wanting to find out how much corruption Biden is in, since Biden was Obama's vice president, and some bad things were being done to Trump by governmental officials under Obama/Biden.

I like what Trump has been doing for America. So much good stuff.

The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) is a United States law passed in 1977 that prohibits U.S. firms and individuals from paying bribes to foreign officials in furtherance of a business deal. The FCPA places no minimum amount for a punishment of a bribery payment.
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Apparently President Trump told Rex Tillerson when he served as Secretary of State, that he wanted to repeal the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act because it places American businesses at a disadvantage when they are attempting to negotiate international deals - Tillerson to his credit refused!

It appears that Tillerson was interviewed for the recently released book "A Stable Genius." and this revelation effectively undermines any claims by this President that he is concerned about foreign corruption in general and the Ukrainian activities of the Bidens in particular!

This President has had 3 years and access to all the resources of the FBI to investigate the activities of Hunter and Joe Biden in the Ukraine, so why did he wait until after Biden announced that he was a presidential candidate in 2020 to make this an issue?
 
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God's Truth

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The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) is a United States law passed in 1977 that prohibits U.S. firms and individuals from paying bribes to foreign officials in furtherance of a business deal. The FCPA places no minimum amount for a punishment of a bribery payment.
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Apparently President Trump told Rex Tillerson when he served as Secretary of State, that he wanted to repeal the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act because it places American businesses at a disadvantage when they are attempting to negotiate international deals - Tillerson to his credit refused!

It appears that Tillerson was interviewed for the recently released book "A Stable Genius." and this revelation ineffectively undermines any claims by this President that he is concerned about foreign corruption in general and the Ukrainian activities of the Bidens in particular!

This President has had 3 years and access to all the resources of the FBI to investigate the activities of Hunter and Joe Biden in the Ukraine, so why did he wait until after Biden announced that he was a presidential candidate in 2020 to make this an issue?

Maybe he just found out about Hunter Biden, and then the perfect opportunity arrived. The new president of Ukraine was just elected.

Tillerson is a treasonous. He conspired to go against the man who put him in to help him, as per Nikki Haley.
 

jgarden

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Maybe he just found out about Hunter Biden, and then the perfect opportunity arrived. The new president of Ukraine was just elected.

Tillerson is a treasonous. He conspired to go against the man who put him in to help him, as per Nikki Haley.

Michael Cohen

Rex Tillerson

Jeff Sessions

Apparently no other President in American history has had the misfortune of being surrounded by so many individuals that Trump has characterized as incompetent, untrustworthy, corrupt, treasonous ..... !

The only other common denominator that distinguishes them from the rest of the Washington "swamp" is that they were all appointed to their positions by Donald Trump - who it would appear is either a very poor judge of character or selects amoral, unprincipled individuals who are just like him!
 

God's Truth

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Michael Cohen

Rex Tillerson

Jeff Sessions

Apparently no other President in American history has had the misfortune of being surrounded by so many individuals that Trump has characterized as incompetent, untrustworthy, corrupt, treasonous ..... !

The only other common denominator that distinguishes them from the rest of the Washington "swamp" is that they were all appointed to their positions by Donald Trump - who it would appear is either a very poor judge of character or selects amoral, unprincipled individuals who are just like him!

Don't you remember how many people left Bush?
 

jgarden

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Don't you remember how many people left Bush?

Despite his shortcomings, GWB didn't conduct his himself and his Administration as if ti was a glorified "soap opera" nor did he create the toxic environment whereby anyone who dared to disagreed with him was an enemy of the people or guilty of treason!

GWB didn't spend his days engaged in endless "name calling," or repeatedly vilifying the media when he received negative press coverage!
 

Rusha

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Despite his shortcomings, GWB didn't conduct his himself and his Administration as if ti was a glorified "soap opera" nor did he create the toxic environment whereby anyone who dared to disagreed with him was an enemy of the people or guilty of treason!

GWB didn't spend his days engaged in endless "name calling," or repeatedly vilifying the media when he received negative press coverage!

Indeed, just as the others before him as well as Obama, GWB loved America and his intent was to serve his country.
 

Rusha

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You act like you are all for the poor, but you don't want them to procreate. Kill their flesh and blood is your argument.

As you well now, that was NOT his argument but rather an accurate observation. Advocating for children begins before birth and continues AFTER. If ones only concern is making sure children is born, they are not prolife but merely pro-birth.
 

God's Truth

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As you well now, that was NOT his argument but rather an accurate observation. Advocating for children begins before birth and continues AFTER. If ones only concern is making sure children is born, they are not prolife but merely pro-birth.

Pro birth is pro life and vice versa.
By the way, you have nerve telling me what was not his argument, especially after what you said about pro birth.
 

God's Truth

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Despite his shortcomings, GWB didn't conduct his himself and his Administration as if ti was a glorified "soap opera" nor did he create the toxic environment whereby anyone who dared to disagreed with him was an enemy of the people or guilty of treason!

GWB didn't spend his days engaged in endless "name calling," or repeatedly vilifying the media when he received negative press coverage!

Most of the whole media, when it comes to Trump, are sensationalist liars.
You didn't want to admit that people left Bush?
Bush should have used Twitter. It is good to know all the things the president does.
 

Rusha

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Pro birth is pro life and vice versa.

No, it’s not. Prolife includes caring about the child’s AND mother’s health AFTER pregnancy not just until delivery.

By the way, you have nerve telling me what was not his argument, especially after what you said about pro birth.

It takes no nerve to point out the flaws in your *arguments*. Instead of wasting money on a wall of vanity, the money could be used to assist women in crisis pregnancies in ways that actually matter such as medical, financial and emotional support. IF you disagree, then you are not prolife.
 

God's Truth

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No, it’s not. Prolife includes caring about the child’s AND mother’s health AFTER pregnancy not just until delivery.



It takes no nerve to point out the flaws in your *arguments*. Instead of wasting money on a wall of vanity, the money could be used to assist women in crisis pregnancies in ways that actually matter such as medical, financial and emotional support. IF you disagree, then you are not prolife.

That is just ignorant for you to claim the USA doesn't take care of their poor.

By the way, you made that up about pro birth.
 
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