Who are the Trump supporters. Maybe not the people you think

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Explaining nationalist political views: The case of Donald Trump
Jonathan Rothwell, GallupPablo Diego-Rosell, Gallup

Abstract
The 2016 US presidential nominee Donald Trump has broken with the policies of previous Republican Party presidents on trade, immigration, and war, in favor of a more nationalist and populist platform. Using detailed Gallup survey data for 125,000 American adults, we analyze the individual and geographic factors that predict a higher probability of viewing Trump favorably. The results show mixed evidence that economic distress has motivated Trump support. His supporters are less educated and more likely to work in blue collar occupations, but they earn relatively high household incomes and are no less likely to be unemployed or exposed to competition through trade or immigration. On the other hand, living in racially isolated communities with worse health outcomes, lower social mobility, less social capital, greater reliance on social security income and less reliance on capital income, predicts higher levels of Trump support. We confirm the theoretical results of our regression analysis using machine learning algorithms and an extensive set of additional variables.
https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/deliver...6072085027006012026025076009008015020&EXT=pdf
 

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[h=1]Explaining Nationalist Political Views: The Case of Donald Trump[/h] [h=2]Jonathan T. Rothwell[/h] [h=1]Gallup; George Washington University Institute of Public Policy; Brookings Institution[/h] [h=3]Abstract[/h]
The 2016 US presidential nominee Donald Trump has broken with the policies of previous Republican Party presidents on trade, immigration, and war, in favor of a more nationalist and populist platform. Using detailed Gallup survey data for 125,000 American adults, we analyze the individual and geographic factors that predict a higher probability of viewing Trump favorably. The results show mixed evidence that economic distress has motivated Trump support. His supporters are less educated and more likely to work in blue collar occupations, but they earn relatively high household incomes and are no less likely to be unemployed or exposed to competition through trade or immigration. On the other hand, living in racially isolated communities with worse health outcomes, lower social mobility, less social capital, greater reliance on social security income and less reliance on capital income, predicts higher levels of Trump support. We confirm the theoretical results of our regression analysis using machine learning algorithms and an extensive set of additional variables.
 

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Relative deprivation refers to the experience of being deprived of something to which one believes they are entitled. It is the discontent felt when one compares their position in life to others who they feel are equal or inferior but have unfairly had more success than them.

Common explanations for Trump’s popularity among non-bigoted voters involve economics. There is no doubt that some Trump supporters are simply angry that American jobs are being lost to Mexico and China, which is certainly understandable, although these loyalists often ignore the fact that some of these careers are actually being lost due to the accelerating pace of automation.

These Trump supporters are experiencing relative deprivation, and are common among the swing states like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. This kind of deprivation is specifically referred to as “relative,” as opposed to “absolute,” because the feeling is often based on a skewed perception of what one is entitled to. For example, an
analysis conducted by FiveThirtyEight estimated that the median annual income of Trump supporters was $72,000.

If such data is accurate, the portrayal of most Trump supporters as “working class” citizens rebelling against Republican elites may be more myth than fact.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits
 

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[h=1]The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter[/h] And it’s not gender, age, income, race or religion.
That’s right, Trump’s electoral strength—and his staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations. And because of the prevalence of authoritarians in the American electorate, among Democrats as well as Republicans, it’s very possible that Trump’s fan base will continue to grow.

My finding is the result of a national poll I conducted in the last five days of December under the auspices of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, sampling 1,800 registered voters across the country and the political spectrum. Running a standard statistical analysis, I found that education, income, gender, age, ideology and religiosity had no significant bearing on a Republican voter’s preferred candidate. Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism, though the former was far more significant than the latter.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533
 

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"Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism, though the former was far more significant than the latter."

The question, which is not answered in the posts above, is what is "Authoritarianism" in the University of Massachusetts study cited above?

This could be interesting - if what it meant by "Authoritarianism" is the same as what was claimed to have been measured by the paper and pencil questionnaire called the F Scale, in the studies reported in the book, The Authoritarianism Personality, 1950, by Theodore W. Adorno, et al The same Adorno group made use of a second paper and pencil questionnaire called The
Ethnocentrism Scale, or E Scale. One sub-scale in the Ethnocentrism Scale claims to measure Populism.

The Theodore W. Adorno group at Berkeley developed the F Scale and the second paper and pencil questionnaire called the California Ethnocentrism Scale (Adorno et al, 1950).

Here are some examples of questions from the California Ethnocentrism Scale, of the category "Other Minorities and Patriotism"

"The worst danger to real Americanism during the last 50 years has come from foreign ideas and agitators."

"Now that a new world organization is set up, America must be sure that she loses none of her independence and complete power as a sovereign nation."


"The best guarantee of our national security is for America to have the biggest army and navy in the world and the secret of the atom bomb."

You can see that some of these questions deal with issues that were more important in decades of the past, but the idesa of American values and patriotism is clear.
 

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"You can see that some of these questions deal with issues that were more important in decades of the past, but the idesa of American values and patriotism is clear.


It's troubling,though, that the alt-right and white nationalists are again agitating against immigrants and declaring that the Jews "will not replace us."

And troubling that the "Heil Trump" leader is calling for an ethnically-pure state, excluding others than those of European descent.
 

The Berean

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Trump supporters are actually a diverse bunch. At least from the ones I've met. I know quite a few Black and Latino Trump supporters. One good friend of mine, who is Black, told me that he voted for Trump because America needs to take "bad medicine" like that nasty tasting cold syrup we took as kids. LOL.

 

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Who was Theodore W. Adorno? If you consult authorities like wikipedia, they will tell you that Theorore W. Adorno, (September 11, 1903 – August 6, 1969) "...was a German sociologist, philosopher, composer, and music theorist. He designed the F-scale with other researchers at the University of California. This scale tried to measure "the authoritarian personality." Nothing is mentioned about Theodore W. Adorno being a Marxist. though not a Bolshevik. Instead, Adorno, being a leader of the Frankfurt School advocated a slower abolishment of the Culture supporting Western Christian Based Civilization.

See http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/articles/877/-frankfurt-school-cultural-marxism/

" [h=1]"Long before old-fashioned Marxism was defeated in 1991, it had evolved a still more dangerous mutant called Cultural Marxism. This mutant of Marxist thinking now appears to have taken over the cultural and intellectual life of the Capitalist West."[/h] "For “Marxist thinking,” we read in an article written in 2002,“retains great influence far beyond the dwindling number who proclaim themselves to be Marxists. The labour theory of value and the rest of Marx's economic apparatus may be so much intellectual scrap, but many of his assumptions, analytical traits and habits of thought are widespread in western academia and beyond."

"Cultural Marxism began as the result of the evident failure of Western Marxism in the years immediately after the First World War.[2] Reflecting on the reasons for this, two prominent Marxist thinkers, Antonio Gramsci and George Lukács, “concluded that the working class of Europe had been blinded by the success of Western democracy and capitalism. They reasoned that until both had been destroyed, a communist revolution was not possible."

Theodore W. Adorno, Herbert Marcuse and a few more members of the Frankfurt School moved to American Universities in the late thirties, having been booted out of Fascist Germany. In the United States these Marxists began to create a following among the professors in our universities. By the end of the Counterculture years of the sixties and seventies, it was becoming clear that the followers of Cultural Marxism was not the working class, but was instead the students and professors in universities.

"It was at Columbia University that the school honed the tool it would use to destroy Western culture: the printed word.
“The school published a lot of popular material. The first of these was Critical Theory."

“Critical Theory is a play on semantics. The theory was simple: criticize every pillar of Western culture—family, democracy, common law, freedom of speech, and others. The hope was that these pillars would crumble under the pressure "

“Next was a book Theodor Adorno co-authored, The Authoritarian Personality. It redefined traditional American views on gender roles and sexual mores as ‘prejudice.’ Adorno compared them to the traditions that led to the rise of fascism in Europe.
“Is it just a coincidence that the go-to slur for the politically correct today is ‘fascist’?

“The social movements of the 1960s—black power, feminism, gay rights, sexual liberation—gave Marcuse a unique vehicle to release cultural Marxist ideas into the mainstream. Railing against all things ‘establishment,’ the Frankfurt School’s ideals caught on like wildfire across American universities."

"“The Frankfurt School’s work has had a deep impact on American culture. It has recast the homogeneous America of the 1950s into today’s divided, animosity-filled nation.

“In turn, this has contributed to the undeniable breakdown of the family unit, as well as identity politics, radical feminism, and racial polarization in America."
 

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Here is a quote from the original article in Politico by Matthew MacWilliams: "Trump support is firmly rooted in American authoritarianism and, once awakened, it is a force to be reckoned with. That means it’s also time for political pollsters to take authoritarianism seriously and begin measuring it in their polls. No, it is time to again look carefully at the political ideology behind the F Scale and E Scale of the Transformational Marxists - Theodore W. Adorno, et al. Personality and Social psychologist Milton Rokeach and others began a criticism of the methodology in the use of the F Scale in the Adorno 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality. Rokeach's book, The Open and Closed Mind, was published in 1960. Rokeach and others were critical of the methodology behind the paper and pencil questionnaire the F Scale, pointing out that the research was biased. especially toward showing Conservative Dogmatism and not Leftist Dogmatism. Rokeach created his Dogmatism Sale to measure both Leftist and Conservative Dogmatism, something the Marxist Adorno was apparently not too interested in doing. The California Ethnocentrism Scale is subject to much the same criticism. that it is biased toward showing conservative Ethnocentrism. The Marxist Political Correctness Ideology assumes that only the Right can be high in Ethnocentrism, and created no questions to measure Leftist Ethnocentrism.
 
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