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So you think that, with a different president, there would have been zero deaths?
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So you think that, with a different president, there would have been zero deaths?
Tomorrow, it will be 210,000 dead. And most of them because Trump lacked the ability and the will to do anything effective about it.
And it's not entirely due to his stupidity. He's on tape saying that he knew how bad it would be, long before he was telling us it was not a serious problem, and that it would soon just go away. He lied to us about it, even after he realized it was going to be very bad.
And it's not entirely due to his stupidity. He's on tape saying that he knew how bad it would be, long before he was telling us it was not a serious problem, and that it would soon just go away. He lied to us about it, even after he realized it was going to be very bad.
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Prove it.
The worst part of the US was NY and NJ.... due to the horrible Democrat "leadership" there.
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DeBlasio mostly, and Cuomo
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Nearly 50,000 deaths just in NY and NJ... nearly 25% of the deaths in the US just in those two Democrat run states.
Jerry Shugart
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If course if the mainstream press tells them that it is true they will believe it!
They still think that Trump conspired with Russia even though we now know that it was crooked Hillary.
They have no mind of their own because they have a bad case of Trump Derangent Syndrome!
It would have been worse under democratic rule.
Look at New York, Governor Andrew Cuomo, he mandated infected epderly be admitted into Convalescent homes, while the Javits center and Navy hospital ship sat empty, with thousands of beds available.
Yes thousands of elderly were infected and died, Andrew Cuomo is a criminal, guilty of genocide!
Arthur Brain
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Your president is on record for downplaying the dangers of the virus and gladly doing so to boot. That's on irrefutable record. Trump went on rallies and said it "was all under control" with full knowledge that it wasn't and still tried to downplay it until the numbers went up where he had no choice but to declare a national emergency. You really want to trust this narcissist? Are you really so dumb as to give him your unquestioning support?
If that's the case then you're the one with "TDS". You probably think the latest news about his taxes are "fake news" as well...
lain:You forgot to mention How Biden's son Hunter, $3.5 million$ received from Moscow Mayor's wife?Your president is on record for downplaying the dangers of the virus and gladly doing so to boot. That's on irrefutable record. Trump went on rallies and said it "was all under control" with full knowledge that it wasn't and still tried to downplay it until the numbers went up where he had no choice but to declare a national emergency. You really want to trust this narcissist? Are you really so dumb as to give him your unquestioning support?
If that's the case then you're the one with "TDS". You probably think the latest news about his taxes are "fake news" as well...
$Millions$ received from Ukraines Oligarchy in (Burisma) Gas Company?
$1.5 Billion$ Form Communist China?
Don't forget his papa Joe, and the direct extortion of Ukraines foreign aid, you don't get the $Billion$ unless the investigator of (Burisma) is fired.
Senate committees release report on Hunter Biden conflicts of interest investigation
Published: Sep. 23, 2020 at 5:01 AM PDT(KCRG) -
The Senate Homeland Security and Senate Finance Committee released on Wednesday an 87-page report revealing millions of dollars in questionable financial transactions between Hunter Biden, his associates and foreign individuals.
Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley, the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee worked together in the investigation into potential conflicts of interest while Joe Biden was serving as vice president.
A press release listed some of the investigation’s key findings, which include:
- In early 2015 former Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, George Kent raised concerns to officials in Vice President Joe Biden’s office about the perception of a conflict of interest with respect to Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board. Kent’s concerns went unaddressed and in September 2016, he emphasized in an email to his colleagues, “Furthermore, the presence of Hunter Biden on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.”
- In October 2015, senior State Department official Amos Hochstein raised concerns with Vice President Biden, as well as with Hunter Biden, that Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board enabled Russian disinformation efforts and risked undermining U.S. policy in Ukraine.
- Hunter Biden was serving on Burisma’s board (supposedly consulting on corporate governance and transparency) when Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky allegedly paid a $7 million bribe to officials serving under Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Vitaly Yarema, to “shut the case against Zlochevsky.” George Kent testified that this bribe occurred in December 2014 (seven months after Hunter Biden joined Burisma’s board), and, after learning about it, he and the resident legal adviser reported this allegation to the FBI.
- In addition to the over four million dollars paid by Burisma to Hunter Biden and his business partner, Devon Archer, for membership on the board,Hunter, his family, and Archer received millions of dollars from foreign nationals with questionable backgrounds.
- Devon Archer received $142,300 from Kenges Rakishev of Kazakhstan, purportedly for a car, the same day Vice President Joe Biden appeared with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arsemy Yasenyukand addressed Ukrainian legislators in Kyiv regarding Russia’s actions in Crimea.
- Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina. Ms. Baturina is the wife (widow) of the former mayor of Moscow.
- Hunter Biden had business associations with Ye Jianming, Gongwen Dong, and other Chinese nationals linked to the Communist government and People’s Liberation Army. Those associations resulted in millions of dollars in questionable transactions.
- Hunter Biden opened a bank account with Gongwen Dong that financed a $100,000 global spending spree with James Biden and Sara Biden.
- Hunter Biden also moved millions of dollars from his law firm to James Biden’s and Sara Biden’s firm. Upon being questioned about the transaction, Sara Biden refused to provide supporting documentation and information to more clearly explain the activity. The bank subsequently closed the account.
- Hunter Biden paid nonresident women who were nationals of Russia or other Eastern European countries and who appear to be linked to an “Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.”
Your president is on record for downplaying the dangers of the virus and gladly doing so to boot. That's on irrefutable record. Trump went on rallies and said it "was all under control" with full knowledge that it wasn't and still tried to downplay it until the numbers went up where he had no choice but to declare a national emergency. You really want to trust this narcissist? Are you really so dumb as to give him your unquestioning support?
If that's the case then you're the one with "TDS". You probably think the latest news about his taxes are "fake news" as well...
Remember during the 2016 campaign, trump kept bellowing that Obama is the founder of Isis. Based on his own standards, trump is the founder of COVID-19. Coronavirus Don.
(Fake News) in a false leftist narrative, TDS 10th stage.
China, China, China, that would be Wuhan
Possibly the left can claim the world's Covid infection on President Trump tooooooo
Real Big Smiles!
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Kung Flu
Jerry Shugart
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He had a reason for doing so. He didn't want panic to set in.
That is a reasonable motive. What motive do you give for him downplaying the dangers of the virus?
Jerry Shugart
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There are a lot of undecided voters who don't even know about that because the mainstream press has done their best to hide the fact.
But don't be surprised if it is made known tonight!
Arthur Brain
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He knew how serious it was, he knew it was going to escalate to the point whereby a national emergency was going to be enforced and he downplayed it because he didn't want to cause panic? He insisted that it was under control for what exactly? That is an absolute load of crap Jerry. If it wasn't for the fact that he'd been caught on record for saying it, he'd be denying that he ever tried to downplay Covid. He downplayed it because he was probably hoping it wouldn't get to be as bad as it did and for self serving political gain.
Jerry Shugart
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So Trump's motive for downplaying the danger of the China virus was because "he was probably hoping it wouldn't get to be as bad as it did and for self serving political gain."
What "self serving political gain" did Trump think was his for downplaying the China virus?
And if he thought that he was going to gain some political advantage then why would he, shortly after the interview, let America know that it was extremely serious when he placed the travel ban upon China?
That, though there is more to it. He has lied about the economy by pretending he built it. Obama built the economy. He also believed only blue states would be affected by his virus ... remember, he is the founder of COVID-19. He decided his re-election is more important than Americans lives. He owns the over 200,000 dead.
Arthur Brain
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He publicly made light of it when numbers were low while "privately" acknowledging that it was serious. If he knew (as he claimed to) how serious and deadly the virus is then why downplay it? Why not implement the measures he finally took in the early stages that could have saved thousands of lives? He lied to the American people. The only reason for downplaying it would be to hope it could be kept under control. It wasn't.
Arthur Brain
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Oh, he's lied about all sorts. Building that stupid wall etc...
Jerry Shugart
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It is obvious that you know nothing about economics because Obama's economy had one of the worst labor participation rates in history:
"Under President Obama, labor participation hit lows last seen in the late 1970s. So rather than a true reflection of labor market strength, the declining unemployment rate was, in great part, a reflection of the declining percentage of people actively looking for work. What we really want to see is a declining unemployment rate with a higher percentage of people working or actively looking for work, indicating a strong and growing economy."
Under Trump, "a smaller percentage of people were unemployed while the workforce expanded because a larger percentage of people were working or actively looking for work. That is very positive economic news."
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...an-under-obama
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