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    Quote Originally Posted by aikido7 View Post
    During his lifetime, Jesus himself didn't call himself God or even the Son of God.
    You are mistaken because in the following verse The Lord Jesus acknowledged that He claimed to be the Son of God:

    "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" (Jn.10:36).

    In fact, this is the reason that the leaders of the Jews wanted Him to die:

    "The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God" (Jn.19:7).

    The Jews knew He was claiming to be the Son God and that is why they wanted to put Him to death and the Lord Jesus never denied that He is the Son of God. And earlier He issued this stern warning to those who denied His identity as God:

    "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins" (Jn.8:23-24).

    Are you willing to bet your eternal destiny of being forever with the Lord away by continuing to deny that the Lord Jesus is God?

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    @PneumaPsucheSoma,
    Could you confirm the accuracy or correct these definitions for me?
    Innascibility - the self existence and uncreatedness of God the Father as distinct paternity of the Son?
    Fontal Plenitude - the source of fullness ?
    and I believe I saw you use the word "primity" or something similar; what is that?
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    @PneumaPsucheSoma,
    Could you please define innascibility, fontal plenitude and primity and explain how they relate to God the Father?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
    @PneumaPsucheSoma,
    Could you confirm the accuracy or correct these definitions for me?
    Innascibility - the self existence and uncreatedness of God the Father as distinct paternity of the Son?
    Yes. Having no origin. Contrasts to filiation, the generation of the Son.

    Fontal Plenitude - the source of fullness ?
    Yes.

    and I believe I saw you use the word "primity" or something similar; what is that?
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    Primity is the quality of being first.

    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
    @PneumaPsucheSoma,
    Could you please define innascibility, fontal plenitude and primity and explain how they relate to God the Father?
    The Father is Self-Conscious Self-Existence and non-originate.

    The Father is the one true and living God, who is Spirit and whose eternal and uncreated Logos is the eternal and uncreated Son. Paternity and filiation. Fontal plenitude and spiration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Are you still trapped in the trinity?

    Too bad so sad
    Er, trolling. Try not to abuse grace given. This thread invites substantiation and a serious mind. Soundbytes are not it.

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    Php 2:6 thought it not robbery to be equal with God

    Quote Originally Posted by nikolai_42 View Post
    Can someone be equal with God yet not be God?

    Jesus says people are equal to angels in their immortal state (Luke 20:36). In John 5:18 it is plainly stated that Jesus made Himself equal with God - therefore not just an exalted human (unless you believe people can attain that status in contradiction to Luke 20:36).

    Hebrews says He was made a little lower than the angels for the tasting of death. In other words He was humbled by being incarnated. So says Philippians 2:6. He was in the form of God but humbled Himself and took on the form of man. God became man.
    I truly hope some who are open, are reading God's word here that they may be corrected. Good post Nikolai
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    1Co 13:11 ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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