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    Knight's pick 3-15-2011

    Pwnage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Enyart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alate_One View Post
    Mendel and Darwin were not aware of one another despite being close in time period.
    AO, I couldn't imagine that Mendel could live and work for 25 years after Origins, and not know of it. I wonder why you assumed that. Just look at the first result after searching for mendel darwin, and you get, from PBS and Google 1: "Mendel read Darwin with deep interest, but he disagreed..."

    And then AO, as to your list, perhaps you didn't understand the point of our list. It's not to prove that creation is correct. It's to disprove the claim that only scientifically ignorant people believe in creation. Since so many of the fathers of the natural sciences, both before and after Darwin, reject evolution and natural origins, the above list falsifies that common atheist claim.

    So while Newton & Kepler, etc., wrote extensively on the truth of the Bible, you list some Christian scientists who don't believe in special creation of man or the universe, like Dobzhansky, Lemaître, & Walcott. And that proves? And as to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alate_One View Post
    Asa Gray - 1871- Important American Botanist, contemporary and friend of Darwin.
    AO, we were listing the FATHERS of the branches of science, and Google 1 for: father of modern biology is Linnaeus, and he's in our list.

    And as for Walcott and the Cambrian Explosion, adding to his being stunned by the complexity of life so low in the geologic column, I imagine you've thought through the stunning discoveries in microbiology that supercharges the "explosive" part of all that variety?

    And now, reportedly, sponges are genetically 70% the same as humans? And what was so much of the genetic toolbox doing in "ancient" species that would not need those tools for tens and hundreds of millions of years?

    AO, you might dismiss all this, but it's part of the powerful evidence that's been lining up that forced New Scientist to do their cover story admitting that DARWIN WAS WRONG: on the tree of life! Check it out at KGOV.com! And now, we're just waiting for Darwin's other shoe to drop
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    Bob just blew AO out of the water. AO should know better than to tangle with Bob. You play with the bull you get the horns.

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    One more nail in the coffin of evolution.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzl Kett View Post
    Bob just blew AO out of the water. AO should know better than to tangle with Bob. You play with the bull you get the horns.
    Um no. Bob deleted the context of the quote. Plus he's wrong on just about everything else he posted. Read my reply.

    He's the one that is blown out of the water. With the the whole quote, I AGREE with Mendel. Knight, of course, would never choose one of my posts, refuting Bob as a POTD.

    Bob very frequently displays a total lack of understanding of scientific issues. I have no problem "tangling" with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavisBJ View Post
    I am a bit surprised to see this. Enyart is normally a bit more circumspect in his critiques of science. In this case, this almost smacks of overt dishonesty.

    Enyart either did not bother to read beyond the few words he posted about Mendel’s ideas about Evolution, or Enyart does not understand the place blending has in the history of the subject, or else he simply saw an opportunistic chance to try to score points against evolution by dishonestly quoting out of context.

    And this prime (but sad) example of Creationist argumentation garnered a POTD award from Knight. That shows how little vetting is done of the POTD selections – if it sounds good to Creationist ears, give it an award – truth be damned.
    This post sums up a lot. Frankly, I am not going to support this site again unless this kind of behavior stops.
    “We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.

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    The Biologos Foundation - The science and faith of theistic evolution explained.

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