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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyChristian View Post
    It is and is not part of this conversation.

    Same with astrology.
    Well, I'm glad you agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Neither Hebrew or Greek have characters for numbers. We have numbers and letters, they have only letters. So, in each language the letters are also used as numbers.
    When a word is written, it also has a numeric equivalent. Since each letter has a numeric equivalent, the numbers can be added up to arrive at a value for the word. The value is the gammatria.
    The term 'numerology' can have occultic associations, but not necessarily. I am not encouraging an occultic practice. There is a harmless use of numerical values and the Hebrews did employ it in the Bible.

    http://carm.org/what-biblical-numerology
    I have also heard the term gammatria. I don't have a problem with the letters having numerical value. I wonder though about the attaching of significance to those "numbers" in order to preach a whole new message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    Doesn't the word "Hebrew" have something to do with the time of Abraham?
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    Yes. "Hebrew" comes from the word "Ivrie" and that means "the other side".

    Abraham used to sit to teach the nations, but with a river in between him and the nations, so he was "on the other side".



    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    I have also heard the term gammatria. I don't have a problem with the letters having numerical value. I wonder though about the attaching of significance to those "numbers" in order to preach a whole new message.
    Bs'd

    You cannot build a religion on those numbers games.

    Sometimes it might give interesting hints, but that's it.



    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyArnold View Post
    Is God limited to the Hebrew language?
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    God also understands English.

    God understands every language.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyChristian View Post
    Oh I wish I knew everything as you do.
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    Go to a yeshiva and they will teach you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    God also understands English.

    God understands every language.



    Eliyahu



    If God is not limited to language, then why is his name limited to language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    I'm not sure of the vowels on YHVH, nor the correct transliteration of these Hebrew characters.

    Exodus 6:3 (NASB)

    and I appeared h7200 ראה ra'ah

    to Abraham, h85 אברהם 'Abraham

    Isaac, h3327 יצחק Yitschaq

    and Jacob, h3290 יעקב Ya`aqob

    as God h410 אל 'el

    Almighty, h7706 שדי Shadday

    but by My name, h8034 שם shem

    LORD, h3068 יהוה Yĕhovah

    I did not make h3045 ידע yada`

    Myself known h3045 ידע yada`

    to them.



    What makes any of this God's real name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    You cannot build a religion on those numbers games.

    Sometimes it might give interesting hints, but that's it.



    Eliyahu
    That, I agree with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    Hebrew. That's the language with which God created the heaven and the earth. Eliyahu


    God doesn't have His own language in Heaven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    Yes. "Hebrew" comes from the word "Ivrie" and that means "the other side".

    Abraham used to sit to teach the nations, but with a river in between him and the nations, so he was "on the other side".



    Eliyahu
    What is "proto-Sumerian"?

    Offering and Rainbow from Time of Noah... Word Gram:

    http://www.vonbora.org/Project_Von_Bora/83_Climb.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyArnold View Post
    What makes any of this God's real name?
    God says,

    "but by My name, h8034 שם shem

    LORD, h3068 יהוה Yĕhovah (YHVH)

    I did not make h3045 ידע yada`

    Myself known h3045 ידע yada`

    to them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    I have also heard the term gammatria. I don't have a problem with the letters having numerical value. I wonder though about the attaching of significance to those "numbers" in order to preach a whole new message.
    Yeah, I don't think that we should look further than the literal-grammatical-historical text. It's meant to be read and understood in context. There is a reference to the number of the beast in the Revelation, but that is a clear reference from scripture and there's lots of speculation on that. One can spend a lifetime just endeavoring to rightly divide the Word, without dabbling in Gematria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    You cannot build a religion on those numbers games.

    Sometimes it might give interesting hints, but that's it.

    Eliyahu
    Thanks for putting this into words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    God says,

    "but by My name, h8034 שם shem

    LORD, h3068 יהוה Yĕhovah (YHVH)

    I did not make h3045 ידע yada`

    Myself known h3045 ידע yada`

    to them."


    Does God tell us everything?

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