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    Hello Elia,

    You mentioned that this isn't your usual way of going about things, but that you did so out of desperation (if I remember what you said correctly). May I ask why? Why the hurry?

    EDIT: I can see that the desperation you mention came from your not knowing (at that time) how links were included in a post.

    Anyway, welcome to TOL. With which form of Judaism do you most closely associate?
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    The L-rd make his face shine upon you,
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    And give you peace.



    Abortion is murder. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    Eliyahu,

    Welcome to TOL.

    Shalom,

    Jacob
    Bs'd

    SHALOM!


    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegascowboy View Post
    Hello Elia,

    You mentioned that this isn't your usual way of going about things, but that you did so out of desperation (if I remember what you said correctly). May I ask why? Why the hurry?
    Bs'd


    Life is short. No time to waste.


    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd


    Life is short. No time to waste.


    Eliyahu
    Thank you for the quick response! You responded before I edited my original post. Please see that post (#31) for more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegascowboy View Post
    Hello Elia,

    You mentioned that this isn't your usual way of going about things, but that you did so out of desperation (if I remember what you said correctly). May I ask why? Why the hurry?

    EDIT: I can see that the desperation you mention came from your not knowing (at that time) how links were included in a post.
    Bs'd

    The problem was not not knowing, the problem is that you cannot post links until you have posted at least 5 posts on this board.

    So now I can.

    Anyway, welcome to TOL. With which form of Judaism do you most closely associate?
    The real kind. The orthodox kind.


    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    SHALOM!

    Eliyahu
    Eliyahu,

    I hope to look over your links more when I have the time, perhaps this Sabbath.

    The word Christ comes from the Greek.

    Maybe you can help me with something.

    Would you say "Messiah" or "Moschiach"?

    Shalom,

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    The orthodox kind.
    You would say orthodox, but not ultra-orthodox?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Untellectual View Post
    Eliyahu,

    I hope to look over your links more when I have the time, perhaps this Sabbath.
    Bs'd

    If you're Jewish, please don't break the shabbat by using your comp on the shabbat.

    The word Christ comes from the Greek.

    Maybe you can help me with something.

    Would you say "Messiah" or "Moschiach"?

    Shalom,

    Jacob


    Depends which language I"m speaking. When I speak English I say "messiah", when I speak Hebrew, then I say "meshiach".


    Shalom!


    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegascowboy View Post
    You would say orthodox, but not ultra-orthodox?
    Bs'd

    Depends how you define "ultra-orthodox".

    I'm in a community of black hats and black suits.



    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    Depends how you define "ultra-orthodox".

    I'm in a community of black hats and black suits.



    Eliyahu
    Thank you, sir.

    I have a great deal of respect for people of your faith. I look forward to hearing what you have to say in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegascowboy View Post
    Thank you, sir.

    I have a great deal of respect for people of your faith. I look forward to hearing what you have to say in the future.
    Bs'd

    I hope I won't disappoint you.



    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    If you're Jewish, please don't break the shabbat by using your comp on the shabbat.
    I used to not use electricity on Shabbat. I love the Jewish ways.
    Depends which language I"m speaking. When I speak English I say "messiah", when I speak Hebrew, then I say "meshiach".
    Thanks. I grew up thinking "Messiah" was Hebrew.

    What does "meshiach" mean?
    Shalom!

    Eliyahu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    Let's first get the verses straight:

    Exo 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary, that I may dwell in their midst.
    Exo 29:45 I will dwell among the people of Israel and will be their God.
    Exo 29:46 And they shall know that I am Y-H-W-H their God, who brought them out of the land of Egypt that I might dwell among them. I am Y-H-W-H their God.


    And about God dwelling in the sanctuary:

    "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!" 2 Chron 6:18


    Eliyahu


    Well, I don't know how else to take it but to understand that you are saying that the G_D of Israel really didn't mean what He said, when He said that He would 'dwell' in the midst of the people of Israel.

    2Ch 7:1 As soon as Solomon finished his prayer, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices, and the glory of Y-H-W-H filled the temple.
    2Ch 7:2 And the priests could not enter the house of Y-H-W-H , because the glory of Y-H-W-H filled Y-H-W-H's house.


    What was it that filled the house of Y-H-W-H. Is the glory of Y-H-W-H, not Y-H-W-H, Himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd

    Shalom dear readers,

    Hereby I want to tell you about the one true God, and give you shocking facts and data that has been suppressed by the Christian church for 2000 years. This was done by, amongst other things, burning Bible translators on the stake, mass burnings of Bible translations and corrupting Bible translations.
    But now the truth is out. Look here:

    That's a bummer, can't post links yet.

    OK, here he is: http://mountzion.freewebpage.org

    That says it all.

    Please send this message to every Christian & messianic Jew you know and/or post it on every messageboard you can find. One way of loving God is making Him known amongst the nations. One way of loving your fellow man is revealing the falsehood he has been exposed to.


    Eliyahu
    Hey Elia, welcome to TOL!

    Can you provide passages of Messianic prophecies that Jesus Christ did not fulfill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elia View Post
    Bs'd. Hope I won't disappoint you. Eliyahu

    In reference to your link: 1 Chronicles 3:10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 mentions 18 generations, from Solomon to Jehoiachin (Jeconiah). However, Matthew 1:6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, only mentions 14 of them. That makes me wonder if that was in fact a mistake, right?

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