Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work

Arthur Brain

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Well, it's not as if he's wrong, Arthur.

You are what you are. Own it or do something about it but don't whine when someone states the truth.

The guy doesn't even know how the ignore function works on here. He's been on ignore for the best part of a year and doesn't understand that I don't see his posts unless he's quoted and if he tags me in a thread then I'm not going to see it unless someone quotes him either and I'm also not going to respond anyway. Yet he still follows me around. How thick is that?

I don't need to do anything thanks and having my intellect being called into question by the likes of you is like being called a nutter by the likes of West...well, ya know...

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Clete

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Can you imagine being this obsessed with another country's leader?

:chuckle:

Most everyone in the world is a statist in one form or another and as a result most of the entire world hates Trump. That's how you know he's doing something right.

Just the mere fact that he's not a professional politician and isn't beholden to any special interests and is free to do as his conscience dictates means they can never let up on trying to destroy him. They will never give him credit for doing a single thing right - ever. The very idea of his presidency is too big a threat to their power.

They're all going to lose their minds again when he wins reelection and they'll lose consciousness when Trump Jr. wins in 2024 (assuming he runs).
 

Clete

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Um, I'm aware that these discussions are public Clete, I've been posting on here for 14 years so what, did you think I thought we were having a private conversation?
No, only that you were acting as if the previous posts in the thread were gone or something.

There is no lying going on on my part and that you want to go on some bizarre rant about Westboro is up to you but it's completely irrelevant to my initial response to you.
See what I mean?!

You're the one who brought up Westboro, not me! How is my "rant" (everything seems to be a rant to you - probably just more of the same sort of tactic actually) not relevant when you're the one who brought it up?!

You brought up Westboro for the exact same reason why the left calls anyone on the right a Nazi. It isn't because they have anything actually in common with Nazi's. Nazi's were hard left Socialists. It's because they want the guilt associated with the Nazi's associated with the right.

That's why you did and you know it. Everyone knows it Arthur. It's perfectly obvious. You go right on ahead denying it though! Everyone also knows that you'll never admit it.

Being called a "freak show" by the likes of you is like being called a nutter by that particular clan.
No it isn't Arthur!

YOUR POSTS ARE ALL STILL RIGHT HERE FOR EVERYONE TO READ YOU BLITHERING IDIOT!

I'm not just calling you a name, the evidence that you're a freak show is right here, within just a hand full of posts from the one where I made the accusation!

It has nothing to do with Christianity or trying to make Christianity look stupid.
Keep telling yourself that. No one believes you.

It's about the amount of respect I have for your opinions of intellectual acuity as I would theirs, none. How could it be any clearer?
It could be clearer in about a million different ways. You could refute a single syllable of what I say, You could do something other than parrot the mindlessness that you hear on CNN or read on Facebook (or whatever outlet you use). You could at least pretend to be as critically minded about what our told on the news as you are about what the nearest Christian has said in response.

Is there an end to the list of ways you could be clearer?

Of course, you'll do none of that because the fact is, your intent is perfectly clear. You wanted to poison the well by associating me with Westboro. It's so much easier to do than real debate and substantive discussion.

How was I lying? I said that to you it probably seemed perfectly normal which is true isn't it? I don't expect you to see anything you write as a rant.
Because you know it wasn't a rant, Arthur! :doh::duh:

Calling it a rant is the same tactic as associating me with Westboro.

It's just a way for you to dismiss what was said without having to actually deal with it.

Um, yes, the threads still here Clete. What, was it going to evaporate or something?

:AMR:
I love it when leftists make my arguments for me and don't even know it! :bravo:

There's nothing to refute. It's the kind of silly soundbite that has no foundation to it and devoid of any sort of intellectual honesty.
These two things cannot both be true.

If there's no foundation to what I said then it would be easy to refute. The fact that you won't ever even try to refute it demonstrates that this too is just another one of your lies.

Where it comes to "liberalism" then just as with conservatism there's a broad spectrum of differing opinions and beliefs, some of which overlap on occasion. People can't be compartmentalized into some silly little box.
That's a load of used horse hay!

So because words have a range of meaning that sometimes (but in this case quite rarely, especially today) overlap therefore the terms have no meaning and we ought to avoid using them.

Typical leftist nonsense.

The Westboro stuff has been addressed already and above, your projection and blowing it out of all proportion notwithstanding.
I'm simply responded to what you said. You're the one over reacting. If it were as trivial an association as you say, you'd have simply said, "Yeah, maybe that was a bit over the top." or something similar. As it is, you're defending it and even doubling down. I've definitely poked you with the right pin.

I don't "associate" you with them or Hyper Calvinism.
Yeah, well except that you did do precisely that.

You really do need to try to keep it in your head that the thread is all still here, Arthur! It seems to float in and out of your consciousness.

And "Hyper Calvinism"? You'd have to be drunk to ever confuse me with any sort of Calvinist at all, hyper or otherwise.

It would all depend what principles you refer to as some on the far right advocate nonsense like executing people for being gay and the like.
Actually, no one rightly advocates the execusion of anyone for merely being gay. It's the act of sodomy that's a capital crime.

There's some nuttery on the far left as well to be fair but that's kinda the point. Rational people aren't to the extreme of either. Trump swings whichever way that looks favourable for him (not that he's managed it much recently) so he's neither left nor right but just self serving.
As all men should be so long as their doing so does not violate the rights of others.

Um, yeah, again, so it is. Again, nobody needs a safe space from you or your posts. Why on earth would they? Get a grip.
There you go again!

The thread is still right here Arthur!

No, it really wasn't and it doesn't. Your reading things that aren't there are not my problem. If you don't like that then go find a safe space and a cuddly toy to curl up with. (See how stupid that type of stuff is now?)
:chuckle:

Is anyone else enjoying this as much as I am?

Can this joker really be this stupid?

Then you weren't paying attention. He most certainly did suggest disinfectant by injection and if "everyone else knows otherwise" then why did several companies suddenly feel obliged to go on the net and advise that under no circumstances should such products be injected or ingested?
I saw the presser live, Arthur. He did not suggest any such thing. He just flat out did not.

The reason companies had their lawyer put out statements is because the press had everyone convinced that he had said something he hadn't.

Why did Trump try to squirm out of it by claiming sarcasm? The salient part of the briefing is there for all to see so there's no lying going on here but there sure will be on your part if you persist with that line.
I not only saw it live but have seen and heard it repeatedly since then. He made no such suggestion.

Clete
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
... everything seems to be a rant to you - probably just more of the same sort of tactic actually ...

It's a form of poisoning the well - The Barbarian was the master of it here - attributing emotion to his opponent - I used to mock him with it:

Barbie angrily replies:

or better still

An infuriated barbie angrily replies:

:chuckle:
 

Arthur Brain

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No, only that you were acting as if the previous posts in the thread were gone or something.

Why on earth would I want to do that? I've no wish to retract anything I've said.

See what I mean?!

You're the one who brought up Westboro, not me! How is my "rant" (everything seems to be a rant to you - probably just more of the same sort of tactic actually) not relevant when you're the one who brought it up?!

You brought up Westboro for the exact same reason why the left calls anyone on the right a Nazi. It isn't because they have anything actually in common with Nazi's. Nazi's were hard left Socialists. It's because they want the guilt associated with the Nazi's associated with the right.

What I'm seeing is yet another irrelevant rant and a bizarre display of ignorance. The Nazi's weren't "hard left" by any stretch. A lot of victims of the regime were people on the left side of the political spectrum for starters so you need to educate yourself. Furthermore, I can't recall referring to anyone on the "right" as a Nazi either, not my thing. There's plenty of conservatives I've had a lot of time for on here. The rational ones.

that's why you did and you know it. Everyone knows it Arthur. It's perfectly obvious. You go right on ahead denying it though! Everyone also knows that you'll never admit it.

If you need to convince yourself of that so much then you go ahead. It's not true in any way so of course I'm going to deny it and will never admit it. For the simple reason that it isn't true.


No it isn't Arthur!

YOUR POSTS ARE ALL STILL RIGHT HERE FOR EVERYONE TO READ YOU BLITHERING IDIOT!

I'm not just calling you a name, the evidence that you're a freak show is right here, within just a hand full of posts from the one where I made the accusation!

Yes, it is and oh, yes they are. I thought they might have disappeared or something. You do realize that ranting away in all caps and exclamation marks isn't very impressive?

Keep telling yourself that. No one believes you.

I don't need to keep telling myself that as it was never my intent and unless "No one" is you then there's a few people I know who happen to believe that.

It could be clearer in about a million different ways. You could refute a single syllable of what I say, You could do something other than parrot the mindlessness that you hear on CNN or read on Facebook (or whatever outlet you use). You could at least pretend to be as critically minded about what our told on the news as you are about what the nearest Christian has said in response.

Is there an end to the list of ways you could be clearer?

Of course, you'll do none of that because the fact is, your intent is perfectly clear. You wanted to poison the well by associating me with Westboro. It's so much easier to do than real debate and substantive discussion.

Real debate and substantive discussion? Oh, you think calling someone a "freak show" is tantamount to that? You got the response you deserved and your over the top hyperbolic rants are simply on you.

Because you know it wasn't a rant, Arthur! :doh::duh:

Calling it a rant is the same tactic as associating me with Westboro.

It's just a way for you to dismiss what was said without having to actually deal with it.

I dismissed your silly attempt at an insult and gave it the credence it deserved, none.

I love it when leftists make my arguments for me and don't even know it! :bravo:

In your imagination that probably happens a lot...

These two things cannot both be true.

If there's no foundation to what I said then it would be easy to refute. The fact that you won't ever even try to refute it demonstrates that this too is just another one of your lies.

Don't know what's tripping you up here. Saying something like "liberalism is a mental disorder" is just a silly soundbite and completely devoid of substance, ergo there's nothing to refute and can be discarded for the bunk that it is.

That's a load of used horse hay!

So because words have a range of meaning that sometimes (but in this case quite rarely, especially today) overlap therefore the terms have no meaning and we ought to avoid using them.

Typical leftist nonsense.

If it is then refute it with - what was it again - oh, real debate and substantive discourse. :thumb:

I'm simply responded to what you said. You're the one over reacting. If it were as trivial an association as you say, you'd have simply said, "Yeah, maybe that was a bit over the top." or something similar. As it is, you're defending it and even doubling down. I've definitely poked you with the right pin.

You're the one getting your panties all in a bunch on this Clete.

Yeah, well except that you did do precisely that.

You really do need to try to keep it in your head that the thread is all still here, Arthur! It seems to float in and out of your consciousness.

And "Hyper Calvinism"? You'd have to be drunk to ever confuse me with any sort of Calvinist at all, hyper or otherwise.

Well, I didn't and have explained why in terms that could hardly be clearer but there you go. Ironically though, you do actually have something in common with westboro with your following...

Actually, no one rightly advocates the execusion of anyone for merely being gay. It's the act of sodomy that's a capital crime.

Well, it isn't and nor should it be but this is the sort of nonsense I expect to hear from far right religious cranks. Like Westboro with their "God hates fags" signs and the like. You do have some common ground with those loonies after all! :D Oh, and if all acts of sodomy are supposed to be a capital crime then you'd have to execute a load of heterosexuals as well...Actually, I do seem to recall that you once posted how homosexuals didn't deserve to have the sunlight reflected off your face, is that correct?

As all men should be so long as their doing so does not violate the rights of others.

All men should be self serving?

There you go again!

The thread is still right here Arthur!

It is, really?

:chuckle:

Is anyone else enjoying this as much as I am?

Can this joker really be this stupid?

What, turning your own insult back on you is stupid? Oh, ok then.

I saw the presser live, Arthur. He did not suggest any such thing. He just flat out did not.

The reason companies had their lawyer put out statements is because the press had everyone convinced that he had said something he hadn't.


I not only saw it live but have seen and heard it repeatedly since then. He made no such suggestion.

Clete

Well, you must have had a short attention span or very selective hearing then because he did indeed make that very suggestion. Fact. Proof right here:

 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
... he did indeed make that very suggestion. Fact.

Clete

Interestingly enough, Politifact says no: https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/apr/24/context-what-donald-trump-said-about-disinfectant-/

Snopes says yes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-disinfectants-covid-19/

FactCheck says undecided: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/the-white-house-spins-trumps-disinfectant-remarks/

And they're all working from the same transcript and the same clip


I've said it before and I'll say it again - the US suffered a schiziod break November 8, 2016. Apparently it affected leftists in England as well.

Clete, you're arguing with an insane person about the concept of reality - you're speaking different languages and you will never get artie (or eider) to understand what you're saying.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
The guy doesn't even know how the ignore function works on here.

what an incredibly retarded thing to say

of course I know how the ignore function works on here


He's been on ignore for the best part of a year

IOW, you've been pretending to have me on ignore for a while, but miss no opportunity to whine about me

and doesn't understand that I don't see his posts unless he's quoted and if he tags me in a thread then I'm not going to see it unless someone quotes him either and I'm also not going to respond anyway.

I don't make posts with the expectation that you'll respond - I realize that I've bested you in argumentation so often that it's been painful for you, that your only recourse has been to hide behind this facade of having me on ignore

Yet he still follows me around. How thick is that?

and you keep talking about me

How thick is that? :chuckle:
 

Clete

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Clete

Interestingly enough, Politifact says no: https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/apr/24/context-what-donald-trump-said-about-disinfectant-/

Snopes says yes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-disinfectants-covid-19/

FactCheck says undecided: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/the-white-house-spins-trumps-disinfectant-remarks/

And they're all working from the same transcript and the same clip


I've said it before and I'll say it again - the US suffered a schiziod break November 8, 2016. Apparently it affected leftists in England as well.

Clete, you're arguing with an insane person about the concept of reality - you're speaking different languages and you will never get artie (or eider) to understand what you're saying.

You give him too much credit.
 

Clete

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Tenth day back at work!

Still alive! :banana:

I've got you beat! :cigar:

In the infinte wisdom of the so called "free" country in which we live, my job was declared to be "essential". So I never stopped working and I'm still alive and kicking!
 
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