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Thread: The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    The virtue of Christs death !

    It was by His death that the old testament saints received remission of their sins, Hence Heb 9:15

    [FONT="]And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the [/FONT]redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    This was indicated when Moses and Elijah spoke with Lord about His death, These two perhaps being representative of the Law and the Prophets. Lk 9:30-31

    Old testament saints had an interest in the death of Christ and what it accomplished.

    Absolutely Brother ! Moses and Elijah, as well as all OT Saints, the Heirs of Promise Gal. 4:28, God's elect Eph. 1:4-7, or Christ's Sheep John 10:11; were truly Blessed as no sin was imputed to them [as David penned in Ps. 32:1-2] and of the same Spiritual Seed of Abraham, the Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16, 29 as NT saints. Together, they were made Righteous, in the Mind and Purpose of God Eph. 3:11, by the Obedience of One Rom. 5:19, Christ the Lamb; their Covenant Head, Surety Mediator and Saviour Heb. 7:22 Christ Jesus; Is. 53:6 before the world began Rev. 13:8; 2 Tim. 1:9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    The Second Blessing of the Blessing of Abraham, what God meant when He said to Abraham Gen 12:3

    3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    The second one is the Holy Spirit and or Spiritual Life. Lets go back to Gal 3:13-14

    13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

    That [hina purpose] we [Abraham's Spiritual Seed] might receive the PROMISE of the Spirit through Faith [Christ's Faithfulness]

    It was because Christ, Abraham's Seed Gal 3:16 obeyed the Voice of His Father as a Surety Head for the Spiritual Seed of Abraham, that Seed receives the Blessing of the Spirit for Life.

    Remember this incident in Gen 22:12-18



    Well Abraham was merely a Type of Christ in this, and its fulfillment is In Christ and His Obedience unto Death, because He obeyed the Voice of God, in Him all the Seed shall be blessed with the Blessing of Abraham which is the Spirit.

    That's why as soon as Jesus Christ ascended to the Right Hand of God having conqured Death, He received from the Father THE PROMISE OF THE SPIRIT to pour out on His Seed, the Seed of Abraham Acts 2:32-33

    32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

    33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

    Yes, that was upon a Jewish Remnant of the Spiritual Seed of Abraham, but we know He did it also upon a Gentile Remnant of the Seed of Abraham Titus 3:5-6

    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
    Or through Faith, His Faithfulness !

    Titus to whom Paul wrote the Letter to was an Gentile Pastor of a Church.

    So all for whom Christ died, and redeemed from the curse of the Law, it was in order that through Christ they shall be Justified by Faith and that they shall be given the Spirit, New Life, New Birth.

    This must happen to everyone Christ died for, if it doesn't, the scriptures are false and unreliable in its Testimony in this Matter. Those who teach that Christ died for individuals who subsequently die in unbelief and their sins as Per Jn 8:24, they are calling God a Liar, Christ's Redeeming Death a Lie, The Spirit a Lie, the Scriptures a Lie !

    Amen and Thank You for this Powerful Message my Brother !
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    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    1 John 2:2 King James Version (KJV)
    2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    1 John 2:2 King James Version (KJV)
    2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
    Yep, God chooses from throughout the whole world, not just from Israel. God is the propitiation, not just for John and his audience, but for all the elect around the world in all generations.

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