What is your definition of racism?

Supremum

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You're bat crazy is what you are. Are you referring to the Jo Cox who was murdered by a guy with connections to the Neo Nazi group "National Alliance"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Alliance_(United_States)

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Wow, this was actually in pretty poor taste. I thought it was hilarious last night, but I have to admit I was a bit tipsy last night when I typed that. By the way, I think you mean National Action, not National Alliance. Not really a fan of either, to be honest. They're both full of crazies(and actual Nazis).

Arthur Brain said:
Hmm, you certainly didn't seem to have a problem with diversity a few years back...Are you Greek?

http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post1532516
The whole incredible range of restaurants argument always gets me. Yeah, I like Greek food, Korean food, and Mexican food. And Vietnamese food. Love Vietnamese food. But getting from 'I kinda like kebab' to 'let's import the entire nation of Afghanistan' is insane. We have the recipes. We don't need their social problems as well.

Stripe said:
:mock: Racists.
:mock: Communists.
 

Crucifer

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You left while the city was still 70+% white. You're just abundance-signaling. What you're saying is "I don't have to live with the negative effects of diversity unlike those stupid gammon." You're contributing to centuries or even millennia old communities being destroyed, and you're mocking them in the process.
You are an evil, evil person, and there is no fire in hell hot enough for you.


No one cares about inferiority or superiority. This is absolute nonsense. People and peoples are different, but there is no objective standard to measure superiority.
People have the right to preserve their communities by excluding others based on whatever criteria they choose. You know that the term racism is literally a communist buzzword, right? It's first non-academic use was in the early 1920s by Leon Bronstein(Trotsky). He called the Ukrainians "racist" for not wanting to join the Soviet Union, implying that it was because they didn't want to share a government with central Asians.
It's literally the early 20th centry version of "hetero-normative" or "homophobic." It's a bully word, nothing more.

Racism is simply racism- there's nothing in error about the word, it simply means what it means. It's people who take it to being more or less.
When you close your doors to an entire race, that basically fits the profile of racism- you're not judging them individually but as a whole. We're not living in some 5th century BC world where you excluded tribes, people have become far more numerous and diverse.

And also, this is America- this is not a country that shuts it's doors to entire races and ethnic groups. It's a republic not an empire, and the Rightists in this country need to understand the difference rather than having this ever growing 'white first' attitude.
 

Supremum

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Racism is simply racism- there's nothing in error about the word, it simply means what it means. It's people who take it to being more or less.
No, you're literally spewing communist ideology when you use the word.

Crucifier said:
When you close your doors to an entire race, that basically fits the profile of racism- you're not judging them individually but as a whole.
Ok. There's nothing immoral or wrong about that.

Crucifier said:
We're not living in some 5th century BC world where you excluded tribes, people have become far more numerous and diverse.
Sure, and this is a bad thing. Many places tried being 'multicultural' in the ancient world, and it didn't work. Aristotle wrote on this.

Crucifier said:
And also, this is America- this is not a country that shuts it's doors to entire races and ethnic groups. It's a republic not an empire, and the Rightists in this country need to understand the difference rather than having this ever growing 'white first' attitude.
The 'let's invite the whole world' idea didn't crop up until the 1960s. See the Naturalization Act of 1790. The US had a nearly white-only immigration policy until the 1965 Hart-Cellar Act, and Ted Kennedy lied to the American people about the effect it would have on our nation to get it to pass.

You also have the characteristics of empires and republics exactly backwards.
 

Crucifer

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where do you see this attitude growing?


be specific

Ever since Trump became President there has been a progressing nature of fascistic thinking and hostility toward minorities.
White people have essentially begun blaming everything on everyone else, and have developed a nationalism that as a result is unsurprisingly tailored to their interests alone.

That is to say, the liberals weren't entirely wrong- maybe look beyond the justifications and hubris and really just see that they predicted this sort of attitude to occur.
 

Arthur Brain

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Wow, this was actually in pretty poor taste. I thought it was hilarious last night, but I have to admit I was a bit tipsy last night when I typed that. By the way, I think you mean National Action, not National Alliance. Not really a fan of either, to be honest. They're both full of crazies(and actual Nazis).

It was but at least you see it for what it is now. A mother of two was brutally murdered and a man seriously injured by a far right, white supremacist nutcase. Wiki has it as "National Alliance" but there's precious little difference between nutball outfits like that anyway.


The whole incredible range of restaurants argument always gets me. Yeah, I like Greek food, Korean food, and Mexican food. And Vietnamese food. Love Vietnamese food. But getting from 'I kinda like kebab' to 'let's import the entire nation of Afghanistan' is insane. We have the recipes. We don't need their social problems as well.

If somebody was suggesting that then it would be insane but they aren't. You also said you had a huge Greek community in your hometown along with loving their food and there was no hint in your post from back then that you had a problem with it. You would have one now?
 

ok doser

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>Almost all of the Millennial generation who support Trump
>Also about half of middle America collectively
>Rightists in other countries
>Some TOL members
>Trump himself

so you believe that Almost all of the Millennial generation who support Trump and Also about half of middle America collectively have essentially begun blaming everything on everyone else


you do realize, i hope, that you are insane, right?


right?
 

Crucifer

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so you believe that Almost all of the Millennial generation who support Trump and Also about half of middle America collectively have essentially begun blaming everything on everyone else


you do realize, i hope, that you are insane, right?


right?

That's exactly what it is, and you're insane to deny it.

>When it comes to crime, who are being pointed out? The cities with the large black populations.
>When it comes to rape or violence against police, who have you heard be brought up the most? Immigrants.
>When it comes to healthcare, who is being pointed out? The poor and minorities.
>Minimum wage? Poor and minorities.

The list goes on.
There's not a single thing about Trump and his supporters that ultimately are not blaming everybody else for everything.
 

Supremum

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What a world we live in where simply identifying what racism is makes you a communist :rolleyes:
You're using communist language, and you don't even know it.
I guess that would make you a fascist then.
why would it? My views on race and identity are the same as Churchill, Truman, and Patton. You know, the people who defeated fascism and national socialism.
 

Supremum

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Wiki has it as "National Alliance" but there's precious little difference between nutball outfits like that anyway.
How would you know? You keep throwing around the phrase white supreeeeemist, but I doubt you have any clue what these people actually advocate for.
Arthur Brain said:
If somebody was suggesting that then it would be insane but they aren't. You also said you had a huge Greek community in your hometown along with loving their food and there was no hint in your post from back then that you had a problem with it. You would have one now?
Oh come on, you know well enough that the most common example of "the benefits of diversity" is the food. That's why you picked out that post of mine.
And why would I mind having a Greek diaspora population in my town? You aren't going to pull that nonsense about the definition of white somehow not including the originators if western civilization are you?
 

Arthur Brain

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How would you know? You keep throwing around the phrase white supreeeeemist, but I doubt you have any clue what these people actually advocate for.

The likes of "White Alliance" and their ilk make it pretty clear, they believe in the supremacy of the "white race" and it's not difficult to see what such nutters advocate. They have clear ties with the Nazi movement and whereas thankfully such groups aren't prevalent they still cause damage with their ignorant rhetoric up to the point of killing people (Like Jo Cox) and spreading their hate. You can google the term yourself if you're still not up to speed.

Oh come on, you know well enough that the most common example of "the benefits of diversity" is the food. That's why you picked out that post of mine.
And why would I mind having a Greek diaspora population in my town? You aren't going to pull that nonsense about the definition of white somehow not including the originators if western civilization are you?

Oh, that problem would be all yours if you want to discount the vast amount of cultural and ethnic diversity. I doubt the typical white supremacist would be too keen...still, as long as you enjoy their cooking.

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Arthur Brain

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You're using communist language, and you don't even know it.
why would it? My views on race and identity are the same as Churchill, Truman, and Patton. You know, the people who defeated fascism and national socialism.

Do you think the likes of Churchill would have supported the likes of Neo Nazi outfits? There were many people of all races, colours and creeds who fought among the allied forces in WWII.
 

Supremum

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The likes of "White Alliance" and their ilk make it pretty clear, they believe in the supremacy of the "white race" and it's not difficult to see what such nutters advocate. They have clear ties with the Nazi movement and whereas thankfully such groups aren't prevalent they still cause damage with their ignorant rhetoric up to the point of killing people (Like Jo Cox) and spreading their hate. You can google the term yourself if you're still not up to speed.
How many replies have gone by with you still not being able to define white supremacy? Most of these groups, at root, just want separation. 'White supremacist' is just a weasel word, like the word racist. It's only use is to prime emotions, but it doesn't actually describe anyone or anything. You don't have to be convinced of your own superiority to want to exclude others. Are Tibetans Tibetan supremacists for wanting the Chinese to leave Tibet? I take it not?

Oh, that problem would be all yours if you want to discount the vast amount of cultural and ethnic diversity. I doubt the typical white supremacist would be too keen...still, as long as you enjoy their cooking.

;)
Dude, this is just nonsense. I'm the one who wants to preserve diversity. I can appreciate other cultures and peoples and still want mine to have their own spaces.
 
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