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    Quote Originally Posted by freelight View Post
    Hello and thanks for resurrecting my thread more insights on the oneness of Life will be shared from resources already shared and other schools all recognizing the infinite One in whom we originate and inhere. Hence Gerald O'Donnell in his messages refers to 'God' as the One and Only. 'God' is both because God is All There Is.....there is no other. 'Otherness' only arises in the world of duality, relationships, relativity, difference,...with-in the play of consciousness as minds inter-act and relate in the illusion of seperatness. Otherwise even with creative play of life evolving(creation)....it is all an interacting manifold One...we being individual expressions of the One.

    ~*~*~

    Now as to your inquiry above,......I would suggest asking that question on the UB thread, since it reveals much information on Adam & Eve which could serve as a springboard for further discussion. I personally dont have a definitive opinion or belief on the matter at this time. The UB teaches that primitive man was already existing in various tribes on earth before Adam & Eve were sent down to serve as 'biologic uplifters' to the races to 'upgrade' the dna as it were to help enhance and speed along our evolution. Therefore Adam & Eve were not the first humans, but are of a higher order of beings called Material sons and daughters of God. There is an Adam and Eve sent to every evolving inhabited planet who are instrumental in uplifting the culture.

    There are other theories too of course.
    We can continue this dicussion in the UB thread if you dont mind.....or perhaps a new thread on the subject?
    it just seems that your schools of thinking skip instantly here on earth as being one with God and Christ already. you mention Jesus Christ as an afterthought of God. here on earth we are not yet in Oneness with God, no matter how you meditate on it. it's great if you simply want to focus on the pure oneness and light of heaven, yet your ideas are not heavenly. imo, it's a selfish train of thought that poses as all inclusive. i know you can say the same about many faiths, but yours is not a faith established in God.


    Galatians 3:22-23 KJV and Galatians 3:24-26 KJV -
    urantia-like stories and groups distract from Jesus and lead in many different directions away from Christ - John 14:6 KJV -


    John 6:44-45 KJV -
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:12-13, 14 -



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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    good post. i'm outta rep, i'll rep it 2moro -

    1 John 3:2 KJV - John 1:12-13 KJV - Luke 6:35 KJV -


    Luke 20:34-36 KJV - Hosea 1:10 KJV -
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    it just seems that your schools of thinking skip instantly here on earth as being one with God and Christ already. you mention Jesus Christ as an afterthought of God. here on earth we are not yet in Oneness with God, no matter how you meditate on it. it's great if you simply want to focus on the pure oneness and light of heaven, yet your ideas are not heavenly. imo, it's a selfish train of thought that poses as all inclusive. i know you can say the same about many faiths, but yours is not a faith established in God.


    Galatians 3:22-23 KJV and Galatians 3:24-26 KJV -
    urantia-like stories and groups distract from Jesus and lead in many different directions away from Christ - John 14:6 KJV -


    John 6:44-45 KJV -

    The oneness of God is always already Being. This all-pervading energy-consciousness is omnipresent. I am cognizant of such because all reality is based within or related to consciousness. 'God' is Light. 'God' includes All That IS.....and more. 'God' is love at the heart of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelight View Post

    The oneness of God is always already Being. This all-pervading energy-consciousness is omnipresent. I am cognizant of such because all reality is based within or related to consciousness. 'God' is Light. 'God' includes All That IS.....and more. 'God' is love at the heart of all.

    As we continue our meditation on 'The One Reality',...we'll use as a springboard the 2015 message here, as we see how 'duality' exists within The One primal unity of All That IS,...and this paradox just happens to be 'intrinsic' to space-time dimensions as we as parts or individual expressions of The One inter-act and relate to all 'else'. This 'else' includes all personalities, all things/beings/thoughts/ideas/concepts/objects/subjects, etc. This 'manyness' within 'oneness' is the individed refraction of the Light of Being itself appearing as 'creation'. So in this context of 'Light', there is only 'Light' (God)....and all else is either a reflection/refraction or 'shadow' appearing within creation, as some kind of 'creation' or creative effect in relativity. - that's all that is going on. This is it folks.

    A re-turning to 'God' is the essential 'key',....since 'God' is the only original, eternal, infinite, ultimate reality. All springs from The One and returns to The One...since there is no 'other' but 'God', - all 'otherness' only appears as a separated perception or identity in the field of duality or relativity. In any case,...as time affords...we'll explore snippets from the message, and expound on it. All real sincere observations or spiritual insights are welcome on the reality of unity at the heart-source of existence, the creative source (God) being 'One', yet containing the many. The pardox, inter-action, relationship and associations of the cosmos, God and Man particularly are open to ponder, consider and expand upon. Feel free to expand consciousness

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    The Cosmic Unity

    Cosmos here means everything that significantly comes within our field of consciousness and activity, including our world and all that is in and on it, including ourselves. The Universe is a comprehensive whole. This means very much more than that it is an aggregate of a multitude of parts. There is One Life. All life activity, in total, is one process and is subject to One Law but both the Life and the Law each have an immense variety of modes of action. All activities, all action of whatever kind, whether the movement of physical bodies, the urges of desire or the flow of thought, derive from a common, original power or energy source.

    Every thing and every creature shows forth two essential aspects: one, an energy, life or spirit aspect, and the other, a material or form aspect, the latter giving expression to the former. All faculty needs a developed vehicle or organ through which to function. Polarity is observable throughout nature as spirit-matter, positive-negative, male-female, etc.

    In religious parlance the Unity can be regarded as Deity, or God. The Ancient Wisdom is pantheism in the sense that there is nothing apart from or outside of this Unity, the One from which all comes and into which all returns at the end of a vast period of activity.

    - Geoffrey Farthing, 'An Outline of the Ancient Wisdom' (Theosophy)
    Enjoying continued explorations on the universal principle of Unity, as shared by most schools of the ancient wisdom and esoteric science.

    As we intuit deeply into our own being, in the silence, in the clarity of awareness....that space-like expanse is indivisible, while divisibility appears within that expanse as the world of images and forms. Movement within the expanse is the creative expression of life, unfolding, evolving, transforming itself by its own innate dynamic potential.


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    Lightbulb Quality of unity intrinsic to Deity............

    ~*~*~

    0:1.2 DEITY is personalizable as God, is prepersonal and superpersonal in ways not altogether comprehensible by man. Deity is characterized by the quality of unity—actual or potential—on all supermaterial levels of reality; and this unifying quality is best comprehended by creatures as divinity.

    1:5.11 Primitive religion had many personal gods, and they were fashioned in the image of man. Revelation affirms the validity of the personality concept of God which is merely possible in the scientific postulate of a First Cause and is only provisionally suggested in the philosophic idea of Universal Unity. Only by personality approach can any person begin to comprehend the unity of God. To deny the personality of the First Source and Center leaves one only the choice of two philosophic dilemmas: materialism or pantheism.

    -UB

    In our meditations on the unity of Life, enjoy this music from Liquid Mind -

    Liquid Mind - Unity


    One Love

    One Life

    One causative/unitive principle

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    Lightbulb Shema Israel

    For more insights into the Unity of all, see my recent posts here on the Shema (follow links for past discussion)

    The Shema is a call for our hearing of the truth of the One Presence and Power at the heart of all. The recognition too of the kingdom of heaven, by name and nature.




    Sh'ma Yisra'eil Adonai Eloheinu Adonai echad.
    Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One

    Barukh sheim k'vod malkhuto l'olam va'ed.
    Blessed be the Name of His glorious kingdom for ever and ever

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    Lightbulb Practicing the PRESENCE........




    Blessings all,

    Here is a lecture-meditation from Joel S. Goldsmith, the founder of the Infinite Way Teachings. His books and recordings are a blessing to many. Here, we join in our meditation and recognition of the omnipresence of Spirit, the kingdom of God within and without, the fullness of the Father, the Christ within who is that very fullness, for 'God' is All There IS. In this meditation, allow the law of grace, the liberty of the Spirit to BE, for that is your everlasting fullness and reward.

    Infinite Way Teachings

    Following our thread-subject,....a re-turning to 'God' is in itself a re-turning towards the unity at the heart of Being, that presence which is the source, center and circumference of all that exists,.... all that was, is, and is to come.


    N-joy!

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    Lightbulb Journey to the Heart........

    Hello all,

    Been enjoying a dive back into some of the fundamental principles behind Creation Spirituality and found a wonderful interview between Ram Dass and Matthew Fox. My introduction to Fox's work was from reading his seminal classic "Original Blessing" which I highly recommend. So after learning a bit more about these two pioneering visionaries of our times, for those new to these two teachers, sit back and enjoy this 2 part interview made in 2014. I include it here in this thread, because our basic purpose for being and the impetus behind creation or existence itself, is a return to the Heart, the soul of Life, the creative purpose and will of our spirit in its relationship to the whole. The 'heart' itself is the very soul of the universe, and by nature is the very center of our own experience of being, so the 'heart' is a 'metaphor' for the deepest soul essence, the God-consciousness at the center of all that IS.

    ~*~*~




    To recover a spiritual tradition in which creation, and the study of creation, matters would be to inaugurate new possibilities between spirituality and science that would shape the paradigms for culture, its institution, and its people.

    - Matthew Fox
    ~*~*~


    I have always said that often the religion you were born with becomes more important to you as you see the universality of truth.

    - Ram Dass

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    Lightbulb Journey to the Heart......continued



    Exploring new forms of worship, engaging the sacred thru The Cosmic Mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    I'll just keep on using this world, not abusing it.

    Wise as the serpent, harmless as a dove
    Everyone is free to stay imprisoned to their religious/cultural programming which in the scope of possibilities is a very minute prism of the Mind/Source that gives you life.
    Trying to awaken the divine principle in the belly of the fish.

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    Lightbulb One Universal MIND,....many expressions thereof......

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke View Post

    Everyone is free to stay imprisoned to their religious/cultural programming which in the scope of possibilities is a very minute prism of the Mind/Source that gives you life.

    Yes,...consciousness is at the heart and substratum of all that exists. The freedom of infinite intelligence transcends our habitual mental patterns or belief-systems, and can always carry our souls into that realm of infinite possibilities outside our finite constructs, to new dimensions of creativity/co-creation.

    Our theme here of the 'Return to Oneness', is the general sentiment of souls recognizing the duality of the finite/relative world, while also recognizing the non-duality of the infinite context of the unified whole which is the ocean of indefinity from which all defined existence emerges. It is this wonderful paradox of duality, the entire play of light/darkness, good/evil, yin/yang, male/female, where the soul engages the creational process and inter-change of space-time-experience.

    Our life in the infinite sea of creation is co-creational in nature (such is the karmic interplay of action & consequence).

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