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    Calling must be distinct from regeneration or new birth, but they are closely associated in the economy of salvation. The Sovereign and gracious work of the Spirit in regeneration enables the called one to respond in Trust. The Spirit of God after regeneration operates upon the new man's will, not forcing him, because he is now a new creation with a will bent towards God and heavenly things, whereas prior to new birth, he is opposed to these holy and heavenly things and enslaved to sin and evil continually.

    Gen 6:

    5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    Folks, this is the real deal of everyone born naturally, even to this day. To deny this is pride and arrogance over the word of Truth. but also:

    gen 8:

    21And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

    See, no change in mans nature after the flood.

    Jer 13:

    23Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

    How can one Trust in the Holy Jesus that is accustomed to do evil ?

    Jer 17:

    9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

    Now is this the heart that Paul refers to in rom 10:

    9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    Or is Paul speaking of this heart ? ezk 36:26

    A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

    Its no doubt in my mind today, that the heart Paul is referring to in rom 10:9 is the new heart given in ezk 36:26 it is given in regeneration.

    Jn 1:

    5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

    jn 3:

    19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    Men by nature being darkness [ eph 5:8] loveth darkness, rather than Light, for this is true of every single human being born into this world, to include the elect.

    So the regenerated person is made willing, in the day of Gods power [ ps 110:3] which is the inner working of the Spirit of God !

    zech 4:6

    Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

    In todays religious world, God the Spirit is greatly dishonored, for the advancement of the damnable heresy of the freewill of man.

    The Call addresses the conscious of the renewed man, those who have had their conscious purged by the blood of Christ per heb 9:

    14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    And it is these [ those with purged conscious by the blood of Christ] that are called heb 9:

    15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post

    This calling proceeds from the Faithfulness of God unto the chosen race, that seed whom Jesus died for..

    isa 53:

    10Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. [/INDENT]
    Though this is certainly not the fault of Jesus, there is not much else more frustrating than to see floating out in the mindset of the world today the idea that Isaiah 53 is referring to only one man who was of Israel. There have been many more since his time on earth who have shined the light in the world, and yet, those ... even many having been murdered viciously their ownselves ... are ignored by most to rather worship one Jewish man as though he were a greek demigod worthy to be credited for all that the People had learned at the point of time he walked the earth, and even all that has been learned since his disappearance.

    If he were alive to know what is being done to his own even in his name, no doubt ... he would speak out against this on behalf of his own people. Read Jeremiah 30 for the name given to the one whose description fits the above mentioned verse in Isaiah 53. That would be Israel, the People, in case it becomes to hard for you to admit that the People you have cursed are those blessed of God for their service to Him. =)
    May Hashem bless you and keep watch over you;
    May Hashem make His Presence enlighten you, and may He be kind to you;
    May Hashem bestow favor on you, and grant you peace.

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    Called into believing on Jesus Christ !

    1 Cor 1:9

    9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Organized religion today has very little to say about God's Faithfulness, but it is His by His Faithfulness to Hos Son and to His seed that many are called into believing on the Lord Jesus Christ by way of being called unto the fellowship of Him.

    The words " called unto fellowship" can be called into the fellowship of His Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

    The word unto is the greek prep eis and primarily means:

    into, unto, to, towards, for, among

    Called into the sphere of fellowship with Jesus Christ.

    Believers have been called [by means of the Faithfulness of God The Father] into the Fellowship of His Son. This is mentioned here in 1 Jn 1:3

    3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

    Now to be called into the sphere of fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ is to be called into believing in Him, for there can be no fellowship without believing in or Faith in Him..

    This called unto or into the Fellowship of Christ is not a offer as those who teach a false gospel may say. They present it as a mere opportunity, and now its up to you to accept or respond to the call.

    But scripture here is plain and to the point that some are called into a fellowship with Jesus Christ, by means of the Faithfulness of God the Father. This Fellowship includes Faith or believing in Christ..

    Its a effectual call that takes one out of darkness into the marvelous light 1 Pet 2:9

    9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
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    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    God is Faithful to the called ones !

    Referencing back to the Faithfulness of God in 1 Cor 1:9 in calling some into Faith and Fellowship of the The Lord Jesus Christ, also this Faithfulness of God sanctifies the called wholly to present us blameless at the coming of the Lord.

    1 Thess 5:23-24


    23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    24Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

    Notice, Paul prays to the God of Peace for this blessing, the God of Peace is used in Heb 13:20

    20Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

    And the blessing He beseeches God for, is that all those called may be preserved blameless until the coming of our Lord. This should be a great blessing for the saints who remain until the coming of the Lord as in 1 Thess 4:15

    15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    They have a promise that the God of Peace will preserve them blameless, their outward and inner man..

    So in essence, 1 Cor 1:8-9

    8Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    9God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

    and 1 Thess 5:23-24

    23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    24Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

    These affirm the very same Truth, which entirely is depended upon the Faithfulness of God, and nothing else..
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    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    more scriptures that indicates a call into Faith !

    We have shown how 1 cor 1 9 denotes a call into Faith by way of a call unto Fellowship..

    Another scripture that speaks to the same purpose is rom 8:

    30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

    Amen, the same them that He called, them He Justified, that is Justified by Faith..

    Paul writes how that Abraham heard the Gospel, how that God would Justify the heathen through Faith Gal 3:

    8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

    rom 5:

    1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:


    The same greek prep ek is used, just one translated through faith and the other by Faith..

    Nevertheless, the called in rom 8 30 come to Justification by or through Faith..

    Paul uses both in same verse here rom 3:30

    Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

    But notice again its a work God shall do..
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    2 Tim 1:9


    9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    This calling issues into saving Faith, trusting in Jesus Christ.. Its a Holy Calling too, from a Holy God to a Holy People, made so by being born of the Holy Spirit..
    Last edited by beloved57; June 10th, 2012 at 09:49 PM.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    The saved are called !

    Modern day religionists have had it all wrong, they believe that the call goes out to everyone without exception in regards to getting saved, and then according to ones response, they get saved...

    But, scripture does not teach that, what scripture affirms is that the saved or the ones being saved are the ones that God calls with the Gospel of their salvation.

    They are being saved before being actually called into experiential salvation or conversion, because those Christ died for are saved already by Christ cross work, His blood.

    The preaching of the cross is only the power of God unto those who are being saved 1 Cor 1:18


    18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

    The word saved here sozo is in the greek a present tense passive participle, meaning they are in a saved state, and they are being saved..and so it is to these that the preaching of the cross is the power of God, not to those who are in a state of perishing..

    This same principle is the case in Rom 1:16


    16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Its the power of God unto salvation [conversion] to everyone believing it..

    That means believing the gospel is a evidence of being in a saved state..

    The Gospel call to some brings about a conversion experience, so that we are being saved by the preaching of the gospel. Paul means that when He says this: 1 Cor 4:15

    For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

    Its the verb gennao and means:

    in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone

    See, gospel regeneration is not here what I mean, but the gospel, to those already regenerated, brings that life to light..Thats conversion..

    You see, a saving work by the Holy Ghost must precede the saving work of the gospel, and that work of the Holy Ghost that saves is described here by paul Titus 3:5


    5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    This saving is in the past tense, a once and for all saving by one new birth, but the saving by the gospel is a continuous experience, because that new spiritual life will continue to feed of the word of Truth..

    And before the saving work of the Holy Ghost is the saving work of Christ work on the cross, which is preceded by Being saved in the Eternal Purpose of the Godhead 2 Tim 1:9



    9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    So it is these , those saved in God's own purpose in Christ, before the world began, who are called by the gospel...
    Last edited by beloved57; May 7th, 2013 at 10:37 AM.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Who it is that calls upon the name of the Lord ?

    Notice that it is written in Joel 2 :


    30And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

    31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.

    32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered or saved for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

    It is written that whosoever [jew or gentile] shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved or delivered, and we see that their is a called remnant to be saved, and it is they [of jew or gentile] that call upon the name of the Lord.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Not Many Called to be saved !

    1 cor 1:24

    But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.


    26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

    Now any honest heart can see that not all are called in this regard, or it would not make sense for paul to say not many wise men or not many mighty men and etc..

    This is a particular calling for salvation experience for some..

    This called has to do with being chosen as we can see in vs 27

    But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

    In other words, the called in vs 26 are the chosen in vs 27

    The chosen of God are called..
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Faith and Repentnace the result of the Call for the called !

    Almighty God does not call in vain, for He has a purpose for His call to His chosen ones.

    Both Repentance and Faith are the manifestations of God's call and Justification of the elect, they are fruits of His election. Faith and repentance are God ordained means through which the Purpose of God in Election is accomplished !

    The effectual call results in or effects repentance, thats why Jesus said :

    Matt 9:13

    But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    He came to call sinners to repentance ! Not give them a opportunity or chance to repent, but He calls them[sensible sinners by the Holy Spirit] to repentance !

    The word to in the verse is the greek preposition eis and denotes primarily " entrance into "

    The call is continuous resulting in repentance..

    Jesus actually called all those the Father gave Him into repentance..
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Called according to Purpose !

    rom 8:28

    And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

    To them who are the called according to purpose !

    The Purpose of God, when one who is elect is called, they are Justified by Faith, this is a conscious Justification before their own minds rom 8:

    30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


    You see, there is no way around it for them called according to His Purpose, when He calls them, it issues into their Justification by Faith..

    This is a call for them to the obtaining of the Glory of Our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 thess 2:

    13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

    14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    hence thats why it [Glory ] follows after Justified in rom 8 30. The called in rom 8 28, 30 are the same as the called in 2 thess 2 14..


    In the 2 thess 2 14 verse, paul tells them that by the Gospel, they were called into the obtaining

    Its the greek word peripoiesis :

    a preserving, a preservation

    2) possession, one's own property

    3) an obtaining

    Salvation in its completeness, the whole possession of it..
    Thats what the called according to His Purpose are destined to, to be Glorified together with their Head and Saviour.
    Also the idea of preserving is in the word, so the called according to the purpose of God, are preserved, unto Glory while they are in the midst of much tribulation..
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    There is a called according to election..paul writes about it in rom 9:

    11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

    again vs

    24Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

    These are the called according to His Purpose rom 8:

    28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

    What purpose ? rom 9 11 tells us The purpose of God according to election..
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    1 pet 2:9

    1 pet 2:


    9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

    This call, is effectual and it actually calls one out of Darkness ! Notice the small prep out of its the word ek in the greek and it means: out of, from, by, away from

    So the meaning is that this call from God effectually brings one out of, from, away from darkness and ushers into the marvelous Light..

    This is a call of a People that God calls out for Himself, in order that they may give Him Praise, and Glorify Him for being God, So God is actually Glorifying Himself in Creating a People for His own Glory, for that is what is meant in acts 15:

    14Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

    This is the call of the gentiles rom 9:

    24Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

    These are a People of both jews and gentiles that He creates for His Glory and His Praise Isa 43:

    7Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    The called are the same as those being saved 1 cor 1:

    18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved[being saved] it is the power of God.

    23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

    24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

    Notice paul says unto THEM that are called, because all are not called, but the one who are, are being saved..
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Romans 8:28-30

    Rom 8:

    28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

    29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


    This calling is the beginning of the application of salvation that Christ accomplished for all the elect of God. This state of the application is by means of the Gospel call, this is when the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to them believing Rom 1:16. Its a summons inwardly to the New Creation unto Faith in Christ. Some may argue that the effectual call is given together with regeneration, whereby the act of the Holy Spirit changes or gives a New Heart that will desire and cherish Christ, hence regeneration is what enables and causes the called one to believe in Christ; also granting them repentance from dead works or religion.

    This is also when the called one receives conscious Justification [hence them called are Justified] of which they have with God through Jesus Christ. This is not when God legally Justifies them, but when they receive the comfort and fellowship of their Justification . For faith or believing can never be the Legal basis why God Justifies a believer, because the blood of the Lamb does that alone..
    Last edited by beloved57; July 10th, 2011 at 08:00 AM.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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