Atonement
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Why are all the major events in the life of Christ directly described in the Gospels except for his resurrection?
Why does Western Christianity depict an individual resurrection but Eastern Christianity presents a universal resurrection?
Could it be that the West gutted the heart of Christianity’s understanding of the resurrection by rejecting a once-common universal iconography in favor of an individualistic vision?
The theology of the atonement was not developed until some 900 years after the crucifixion, by Christian writer Anselm of Canterbury.
Why does Western Christianity depict an individual resurrection but Eastern Christianity presents a universal resurrection?
Could it be that the West gutted the heart of Christianity’s understanding of the resurrection by rejecting a once-common universal iconography in favor of an individualistic vision?
The theology of the atonement was not developed until some 900 years after the crucifixion, by Christian writer Anselm of Canterbury.
Christians have been taught this for a long, long time.
“Go and learn what this means: [God] desires mercy and NOT sacrifice.
--Matthew 9:13
glorydaz
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That isn't what happens, anyway.
glorydaz
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No, the word is actually reconciliation. You'll find that in the Bible.
Jesus was quickly and brutally executed like many others in the day.
He died for his vision because he was said to hzve proclaimed himself “King of the Jews.”
A sign was hung on the cross that says as much.
[The wording on the sign is different for each of the four gospels].
He died for his vision because he was said to hzve proclaimed himself “King of the Jews.”
A sign was hung on the cross that says as much.
[The wording on the sign is different for each of the four gospels].
Jesus' execution was political, the priests wanted to extinguish his message.
They thought crucifixion would accomplish this. Wrong.
Thank you. So the priest intention was not to offer him as sacrifice but punish him and extinguish his message?
Why Christians never look at Matt. 9:13, and see God as merciful God not blood thirsty.
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Robert Traill (Stedfast Adherence to the Profession of our Faith), Works 3:230:
Christ Jesus was offered in sacrifice to God for us. He did not die only in love for us, and he did not die only to give an example for us, and he did not die only for our good; but he died in our stead, he died as a sacrifice dies. The way in which the beast that was to be sacrificed died, was this: there was a transferring of the guilt of the master of him upon his head; that guilt deserved death by the law, and this death was inflicted upon the poor innocent creature. This was a shadow of that great sacrifice that the Son of God was to offer. Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood, he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us, [Hebrews] chap. 9:11, 12.
Hugh Binning, Works, p. 422:
Our Lord Jesus Christ enters into a covenant with the Father, wherein he undertakes to bear our curse, and the chastisement of our peace. He is content to be dealt with as the rebel, “Upon me, upon me be the iniquity;” and so there comes an interruption, as it were, of that blessed peace he had with the Father. He is content that there should be a covering of wrath spread over the Father’s love, that he should handle the Son as an enemy; and therefore it is, that sinners are admitted as friends, – his obedience takes away our rebellion. The cloud of the Lord’s displeasure pours down upon him, that it might be fair weather to us; the armies of curses that were against us, encounter him, and he, by being overcome, overcometh; by being slain by justice, Satan, and sin, overcometh all those, and killeth the enmity on the cross, making peace by his blood, Col. 2:14, 15; Eph. 2:15. And it is this sacrifice that hath pacified heaven, – the sweet smell of it hath gone above, and made peace in the high places.
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A sign was hung above Jesus’ body on the cross.
Although puzzlingly, each gospel writer quotes the sign differently, it basically says Jesus was killed for being “King of the Jews.”
He died for the crime of high treason.
Jesus was declared Lord by his followers.
“Jesus is Lord and Caesar AIN’T."
Please enlight us, why Jesus was put to death?
glorydaz
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Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
You missed to go down couple verses
2 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—
One man sin, one man die.