The rich young ruler mentioned a number of the Ten Commandments, did he mention "Thou shalt not covet?" Exodus 20:17 KJV I just do not know. If he did not, then the command to sell all he had should probably be understood in that context.
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You lied-again-the dbr was hidden from the 12, prior to its occurrence, habitual liar.
musterion
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No, GT is right. Peter knew all about the DBR being the means of salvation for all.
That's why he tried to stop Christ going to the cross.
Because Peter knew it was the means of salvation for all.
So he tried to stop it.
Yep. God's ultimate good news for the world, so Peter tried to prevent it happening.
That Peter, what a card.
Yes, musty, that wacko Peter, attempting to prevent the Master's death, the very death that served as a basis of his reconciliation,per Romans 5:10 KJV, and a prerequisite to his justification, based upon the resurrection, per Romans 5:10 KJV/Romans 4:25 KJV, a resurrection which he knew NADA about, prior to its occurrence,per John 20:9 KJV.
"From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee" Mt. 16:21-22 KJV
"And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him." Mark 8:31-32 KJV
John 18:10 KJV Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
I know, I know, MAD opponents...It all says the same thing........Cricket.....Cricket....Cricket...
musterion
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And GT will either misrepresent, obfuscate or ignore these posts. Watch...
Or assert..."Obey 'Jesus,' and you will get understanding,".... and stump us again, bewildering us all....
turbosixx
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What is the "law of commandments"?
Yes, lead to Christ but after his DBR no one is under it as the verses following state.
Gal. 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Of course if was followed on Pentecost, when was Jesus being the Christ first proclaimed??
Observe, the deception:
You lied-you said, "argued," the law was nailed to the cross. How can the law lead anyone to Christ, if it was nailed to the cross?
Paul, and the Galatians, were "post cross," and they were led to Christ, after the DBR(duh), by the law.
You're drunk, or an idiot-which?
No, moron, Paul asserts that those saved are no longer under the law, as a rule of life. But the law was not nailed to the cross-it still serves to lead the lost(get it, idiot-not saved people, members of the boc)to Christ, and show them what sin is, so that the lost will come to Christ.
You lied-you said, "argued," the law was nailed to the cross. How can the law lead anyone to Christ, if it was nailed to the cross?
Paul, and the Galatians, were "post cross," and they were led to Christ, after the DBR(duh), by the law.
You're drunk, or an idiot-which?
No, moron, Paul asserts that those saved are no longer under the law, as a rule of life. But the law was not nailed to the cross-it still serves to lead the lost(get it, idiot-not saved people, members of the boc)to Christ, and show them what sin is, so that the lost will come to Christ.
Post cross-the law was followed, obeyed, including the feast of Pentecost, part of the law, on orders from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Then you lied-the law was not nailed to the cross, as Pentecost was followed, "post cross"-part of the law-mandatory.
You're a clown, biblical buffoon.
Then you lied-the law was not nailed to the cross, as Pentecost was followed, "post cross"-part of the law-mandatory.
You're a clown, biblical buffoon.
turbosixx
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In your understanding when did Paul receive it? For example, at his conversion? In Arabia?
turbosixx
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When did the world first hear that Jesus was the Christ?
turbosixx
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What is the "law of commandments" that the bible tells us was nailed to the cross??
Deceiver....charlatan, engaging in sophistry....Your argument is challenged, refuted, and you change the subject. You made up this satanic "the law was nailed the cross," devil child.
Deceiver....charlatan, engaging in sophistry....Your argument is challenged, refuted, and you change the subject. You made up this satanic "the law was nailed the cross," devil child.
You're drunk, asserting it was nailed to the cross, and yet agreeing it led Paul, the Galatians, the lost to Christ, "post cross," as it does the lost today,and shows the lost what sin is, and that the law was adhered to after the cross, which included Pentecost.
No other option-sober up.
turbosixx
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If the law of Moses isn't the handwriting of ordinances that was nailed to the cross, then what is the "handwriting of ordinances"?
Col. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
turbosixx
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I didn't say it disappeared off the face of the earth. Can we not still read it and understand? Paul used it to prove Jesus was the Christ.
Acts 17:2 And Paul went in, as was his custom, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, 3 explaining and proving that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus, whom I proclaim to you, is the Christ.
Acts 28:23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.
Post cross-the law was followed, obeyed, including the feast of Pentecost, part of the law, on orders from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Then you lied-the law was not nailed to the cross, as Pentecost was followed, "post cross"-part of the law-mandatory.
You asserted that the law was nailed to the cross. You lied.
turbosixx
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You said I was confused on what was nailed to the cross. I'm waiting for you to enlighten me as to what it was.
You lied. And "the handwriting of ordinances" is not the law, idiot-you lied, or are just stupid.
"the handwriting of ordinances" is not equivalent to the law. Paul was referring to the sin debt, the "certificate of debt," the "charge against the accused,".....That, was nailed to the cross, as the custom, at that time, when one was crucified, was to post/nail the charges, against the accused, on said cross. Back then, a bond debt/certificate of debt, was cancelled, by being nailed to a post.
This "dogma"/"ordinances, was a document written in one's own hand as legal proof of indebtedness, i.e., a bond of indebtedness; a note of debt.
“handwriting”-“a note of hand, or writing, in which one acknowledges that money has either been deposited with him/her, or lent to him by another, to be returned at an appointed time.”
And then later it came to refer to any acknowledgment of debt. Get it? Sin debt. That is the meaning of the word “handwriting”-an acknowledgement of debt.
It refers tp anything written with the hand, a bond, note of hand, it signifies a sort of note under a man’s hand, whereby he obliges himself to the payment of any debt. In other words, a note of debt or a note of guilt.
The record that contained the charges, was nailed to the cross-canceled. Not the law. The charges were against us....The certified copy of an execution order, which was against, was nailed to the cross.
'"the handwriting of ordinances" is not the law, so stop scamming people on TOL, driving them away from Christ. And Paul's point-that debt was against us, or "notice of execution," not the law, as it is good, and holy, and just, and good.......
The handwriting of ordinances is not the law. Get your facts straight-sloppy. The charge against us, written order of a death sentence, "the handwriting of ordinances" is not the law, as you assert, biblically illiterate one. You changed the scripture. "the handwriting of ordinances" is a reference to the sin debt,"note of debt," the "notice of indebtedness," "the charge," the notice of the, so to speak, "certified copy of an execution order," being nailed to the cross-not the law, itself.