Jesus came to destroy 'he that has the power of death', which is the ten commandments

Gurucam

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Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4. And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage
(under the ten commandments which were done-away-with by Jesus and replace by His Spirit)

Antichrist people (i.e. false prophets and unawares false spying brethren) have been deceiving and returning, unsuspecting and innocent aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments. This was and is, openly and boldly perpetrated on billions of unsuspecting, innocent aspiring Christians. The result of which is:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen


The biggest deception (by far), in what passes for Christianity on earth, is: the returning of billions of aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments and so destroying (for these unfortunate billions of aspiring Christians) any possibility of them being under grace of God and ever benefiting from Christ:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage (do not be entangled with the ten commandments).
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised (committed and obliged, to the ten commandments), Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law (if you choose to be under the ten commandments, you are a debtor to uphold all the ten commandments, perfectly).
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law (i.e. the ten commandments); ye are fallen from grace
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The question is, who would have a vested interest in perpetrating the above evil deed of returning billion of unsuspecting, innocent, aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments, when (under the Christian system) they have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit?

Who, indeed? The answer is simple. The answer is simply the following:

Those with a vested interest in the ten commandments are the few million regular Jews. Their ancestors killed Jesus for doing-away-with the ten commandments and replacing them with His Spirit.

However there is another set of Jews (or Jew like people) who are operating covertly. These are Satan/Peter, his popes, their church, their other operatives and their followers. Like the Jews, they also delight in the ten commandments.

The mark of the Jews (and Jew like people) is that they esteem the ten commandments. In fact the Jews of 2000 odd years ago, denied, persecuted tortured and killed Jesus because he identified the ten commandments to be the ministration of death and the devil and Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replaced the ten commandments with His Spirit.

Like the Jews, the distinguishing mark of Satan/Peter, his popes, their church, their other operatives and their followers is also the ten commandments. This is the ten commandments which were found, by Jesus, to make one the death and which were also identified, by Him, to be the devil in ideas form.

Not only do a few million Jews continue to esteem the ten commandments. Satan/Peter, his popes, their church, their other operatives and their followers also continue to esteem and use the ten commandments. In fact, the gospel of the ten commandments were committed onto Peter who was opposing Jesus from within His inner circle and who Jesus identified to be Satan/the Antichrist/the devil:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.


Therefore Peter, who Jesus identified to be Satan/the devil and the ten commandments, which Jesus also identified to be the devil/Satan, in ideas form, were grouped together. In addition to this Jesus established a church under Satan (who he identified to be Peter) where the dead (those whose spirits must be saved) are sent:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


The Holy KJV N.T. confirms in total clarity that Peter was Satan/the devil and he was expected to remain Satan/the devil and enforce the ten commandments which are the devil/Satan (in ideas form), on humans. Few listened to Jesus.

Clearly then, one must be deliberate seeking to be deceived, if one denies the fact that: Peter was and continued to be Satan/the devil.

And indeed, Satan/Peter, his popes and their church enforced and continue to enforce the ten commandment, which Jesus identified to be the devil/Satan (in ideas form) and which He did-away-with and replace with His Spirit.

Satan/Peter, his popes, their church and their other operative continue to enforce the seriously flawed ten commandments on themselves and their charge. Clearly they remained Jew, in real or by natural default. They continue to be Jews or be like Jews by default. They continue to delight in the ten commandments, like the Jews who denied, persecuted, tortured and killed Jesus and who continue to persecute Christians.

However Satan/Peter, his popes, their church and their other operative corruptly pretend to be and/or corruptly presented themselves to be, Christians and the body of Christ. They were and continue to be, the unawares false spying brethren mentioned in the following revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage
(i.e. under the ten commandments which Jesus did-away-with and replace with His Spirit)

Up to this day, Satan/Peter, his popes, their church, follower and regular Jews continue to deny Jesus and his New covenant. They also continue to undermined Jesus and His New covenant. They are the children of the flesh who continue to persecute Children of God/Christians. They are not destine to be heirs to God's kingdom of heaven, any where:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Do not be deceived by cunning and deceptive rhetoric.

The above is not difficult to get from the Holy KJV N.T.. The above is not quantum mechanics. The above is simple kindergarten sums. Please become a child again.

A child reads with no precondition ideas. A child reads with pure innocence, and gets all truth.

On the other hand, 'adults' come to the Holy KJV N.T. filled with baggage i.e. filled with preconditioning. They come with Satanic/Antichrist ideas, from Peter & Co.. The Holy KJV N.T. will not reveal (let-up) its truth to such people.

The time to awaken to truth is at hand. In fact, there was no time like now, to get truth. Before now, the above truths were 'shut-up' and 'sealed' in the Holy KJV N.T.. Now, the above truths are common knowledge.

No one can change or oppress the above truth, any more. Your only choice is whether you will get these truth now or later, when it is too late. Become a child again.

Seek truth in the Holy KJV N.T., with the innocence and simplicity of a child and now, this time around, all truth will be easily revealed to you. Now, the time is simply right for all to get the most precious truths in the Holy KJV N.T., in total clarity.

Daniel: 12 King James Version (KJV)
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


This time has come to the surface of earth.
 
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Gurucam

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Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


In the above Peter was identified by Jesus to be Satan/the devil. Also in the above, Jesus identified the ten commandments to be 'him who had the power of death that is the devil' and Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. This was 2000 odd years ago.

The above also say that the gospel of the ten commandments were committed onto Peter.

Therefore Peter, who Jesus identified to be Satan/the devil and the ten commandments, which Jesus also identified to be the devil/Satan, in ideas form, were grouped together.

In addition to the above, Jesus established a church under Satan (who he identified to be Peter) where the dead (those whose spirits must be saved) are sent:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


Therefore the Holy KJV N.T. confirms in total clarity that Peter was Satan/the devil and he was expected to remain Satan/the devil and he was expected to do Satan/the devil's work, by enforce the ten commandments which are the devil/Satan (in ideas form), on humans. Few listened to Jesus.

Clearly, Jesus cunningly had Satan/Peter serve God's agenda of having children of the flesh ("the dead") bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter, who went there when he died. This was designed to fulfill God's promise, which is that only children of God will inherit His kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm and eventually on earth, without any children of the flesh/'the dead':

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


Clearly then, one must be deliberate seeking to be deceived, if one denies the fact that: Peter was and continued to be Satan/the devil. And then ignore Jesus and the Holy KJV N.T. and instead, follow Satan/Peter.

Clearly arrogant self-righteous foolishness prevails. Such people are clearly responsible for themselves. They are certainly not the meek who are carded to inherit the earth, in God's kingdom of heaven. They are the 'know it all'.

. . . those who choose to follow Satan/Peter must blame no one for their sad and very unfortunate predicament. Such people must face up to their choice, like adults.No forgiveness is possible and no excused are entertained on one's judgment day.

People form the Abraham catchment are offered only one change to get it right. They are offered only this life time to get it right. Success means an eternity, with Jesus, in God's kingdom of heaven (in the spirit realm and also eventually on the surface of earth). Failure means an eternity, with Satan, in hell and no returen to the surface of earth.

One's most protected (Christian) right is freedom to choose, in this case, between 1. Jesus and God's kingdom of heaven and 2. Satan/the devil and Satan's kingdom of hell. All things are offered by God.

Indeed both path are offered on earth. It is encumbrance on each person to identify Satan/the devil and his church and ways correctly.

It is incumbent on each person to get the information and instructions in the Holy KJV N.T. very correct. Then adopt this information and instructions very correctly:

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

 
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Gurucam

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No excuses are recognized and/or accepted.

No excuses are recognized and/or accepted.

Judgment is done totally impersonally by the Spirit of Jesus according to the following:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


Those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments soweth to flesh, bring forth only fruits onto death and reap corruption and hell. These people bring forth the wrong fruit and does not inherit God's kingdom of heaven. They go to hell.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet


On the other hand those who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit soweth to Spirit and bring forth only fruits onto God and reap life eternal and heaven. (This is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the new covenant). These people bring forth the correct fruit and inherit God's kingdom of heaven:

Matthew: 21 kjv n.t.
43 Therefore I say unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


'The fruits thereof' are fruits onto God. These are brought forth when people transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

Those who esteemed and followed Satan/Peter, who enforce the ten commandments on himself and his charges, are the foolish one. They will not make it. The foolish and complacent simply do not make it. Only the wise, alert and informed make it.

The wise ones are those who ignore Satan/Peter and transgress the ten commandment so as to serve in the newness of spirit. These are the ones who follow Jesus.

Foolishness (i.e. being foolish) is no excuse. Being foolish and/or deceived is a curse and a very sad ending:

Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
25 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


Those who foolishly go about the ideas of Satan/Peter and/or their own righteousness, are doomed.

It is incumbent on each person to seek out and know scriptures on one's own, without going through the likes of Satan/Peter and similar others who easily numbers in the millions on earth. To rely on Satan/Peter and others for scriptural information and scriptural insights is exactly how false prophets and unawares false spying brethren are able to deceive one.

If one err, know that no excuses are recognized and/or accepted.

If one esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments (even io the least manner) one soweth to flesh, brings forth fruits onto death and goes to hell.

On the other hand if one deliberately transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit, one soweth to Spirit and bring forth only fruits onto God and goes to heaven.

Judgment is totally impersonal and based totally on how and to what, one soweth.

There is no doubt or question about the above.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.


 
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Gurucam

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Judgment is done totally impersonally by the Spirit of Jesus according to how and to what one soweth to during one current and one life on earth:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


For people in the Abraham catchment, it is very clearly stated in the Holy KJV N.T., that: there is no second chance or second life on earth for them, to earn entry to heaven or hell. This life is their only chance.

Additionally, the basis of judgment is clearly defined, in the Holy KJV N.T.. Judgement and reward or punishment, is according to:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


One must be very careful to know how to soweth to Spirit. One must not let oneself be duped into soweth-ing to flesh by Satan. Each person has a flesh body and a spirit body:

1 corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


Jesus described one whose physical body has died as 'sleeping'.

Jesus describes one who is dead to his spirit body as 'the dead'. This is to have a heart/spirit that is 'waxed gross' or cover over or under a veil.

Fact is, one who, in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments soweth to flesh.

The ten commandments are the ministration of death. Jesus identified the ten commandments as 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. The ten commandments killeth spiritual awareness. Those who in the least way esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are kept 'the dead or become 'the dead'. 'The dead' describes some one who is dead to his/her own spirit. Such a one is aware of only his/her flesh body. Such a one can soweth only to his/her flesh.

Therefore with out a doubt, any one who, in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments is 'the dead' and can soweth only to flesh and so reap only corruption and hell.

Fact is the ten commandments were identified by Jesus, to be 'Him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. And 2000 odd years ago, Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replace them with His Spirit:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty


A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians have ignored Jesus and His Spirit and instead choose to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments.

The sad part is they foolishly believe that they are following Jesus and that they are Christian. Fact is, according to very clear revelations in the Holy KJV N.T., these billion strong Catholics and billion strong traditional Christians are soweth-ing to flesh. They reap corruption and eventual delivery to hell.

Jesus had and pursued, two aims, two agendas. Also Jesus had one very important instruction for one who was given by God to follow him (i.e. a disciple):

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1. Follow me; and 2. let the dead bury their dead.


These billion strong Catholics and billion strong traditional Christians are quite literally 'the dead who are burying each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan (who include Peter who went there when he died). They esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which make one and keeps one, 'the dead'. They are 'the dead'.

These billion strong Catholics and billion strong traditional Christians are clearly 'want-to-be' Christians, however they are are not the chosen few who have actually followed Jesus. They are not actual Christians. At best, they are make-believe /want-to-be Christians. They have been deceived by their own foolish selves and/or by others.

The time for all truth to be known has finally come to the surface of earth. Please wake-up to truth, now. This is the last opportunity to get truth and therefore not err and be the last to be chosen to join the chosen few. Do not continue to 'sleep'. Do not continue to be foolish. Foolishness is, it self, a curse.

Believe it or not, foolish people are left to fall by the way side, by both Jesus and God. Please check the message that Jesus tried to convey with the ten virgins in which five were wise and five were foolish. The foolish ones did not make it.

To be foolish (in a spiritual/Christian context) is to be 'the dead'. This is to be dead to the entire spirit world (which supports the physical world). This is to be literally dead to Jesus and God and the world in which they 'live' and can be known. Described another way, this is to be only left brain actualized. Such a person is indeed very foolish. Such a person may be a full adult in the physical world, but totally dead to the spirit world.

However the physical world is simply a small fraction of reality. Such a one must become a child again. (Not a child again in the physical 'world'.) . Such a one must become awakened to and aware of one's own heart/spirit and become a child in the spirit world. This is a second childhood in another world which is the spirit world, where Jesus and God lives and can be reached. This is the only path to cease being foolish and to become truly wise.

My posts and threads are truth in the fullness of time. These offer the last call. My Posts and threads offers an opportunity for a few more people to get truth, adopt truth, not err and be among the chosen few:

Matthew: 20 King James Version (KJV)
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.


 
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Gurucam

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A lord is a master.

Under the old system, 'the lord' (school-master) was and is, the ten commandments.

Under the New system, The Lord/Master is the Spirit of Jesus. This was established, 2000 odd years ago, for the people who follow, esteem and are connected to Abraham and his systems.

2000 odd years ago, God sent Jesus among the people who follow, esteem and were connected to Abraham and his systems. Jesus' mission was to experience spiritual death, so that, through spiritual death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

Hebrews: 2 King James Version (KJV)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


The indication is that under the Old system no one was coming to God's kingdom of heaven. In fact the above confirm that before Jesus came on earth physically it was know that 'him who who had the power of death, that is the devil, was killeth-ing the generations of Abraham and denying them entry into God's kingdom of heaven.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.


The above confirm why God sent Jesus. God sent Jesus to redeem them who were under the ten commandments. This is the generations of Abraham (they were all under the ministration of death which are ten commandments). Jesus came to do-away-with the ten commandments and replace them with Hos Spirit. This who are led by the Spirit of Jesus become adopted children of God.

Something was flawed about the ten commandments because it was necessary for God to gave a promise to Abraham that He will provide a Spirit. This Spirit was to enable Abraham's generations to inherit God' kingdom of heaven. And this Spirit was not the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit was always in existence and supporting the creation, in every way and area. In fact, God is the Holy Spirit Who 'spoke' to Abraham and made this promise:

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


God, who is a Spirit, is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, who spoke to Abraham, would not promise the Holy Spirit to Abraham. God/the Holy Spirit promised a different Spirit. (God had actually promised the Spirit of His Son who can and will intercede for each generation of Abraham with God/the Holy Spirit.

Abraham and his generation needed something which could do what the ten commandments could not and was not doing. What Abraham and his generations needed was a Spirit that would intercede between each person of Abraham's generation and the Holy Spirit and enable each of them to inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

The ten commandments was not achieving this for Abraham's generations. The Old covenant was not working and a new one was necessary:

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.


In fact, some thing on earth was killing the spiritual awareness of Abraham's generations and this needed to be destroyed. Because of this, God, sent Jesus to identify and destroy 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil.

The ten commandments, which were written and engraved in stone, were found to be the ministration of death. And 2000 odd years ago Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replaced it with His Spirit. This was the identifying and destroying of, 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil", by Jesus.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty


The above event was according to the Will/Spirit of God. This was also the fulfillment of God's promise, to Abraham. The Spirit of Jesus was the Spirit that was promised to Abraham and his generation, by God/the Holy Spirit.

The promised Spirit was and is, the Spirit of Jesus Who is also the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. This Spirit was given to make intercession, with God/the Holy Spirit, on behalf of each person in the generations of Abraham.

Whether Jesus is in the flesh form or in the Spirit form, no one come on to God/the Holy Spirit but by going though Jesus.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father (Who is the Holy Spirit), but by me.


Therefore, in the Christian tradition those who speak of having or claim to have, direct communion with the Holy Spirit is simply deceiving them selves and others.

In the Christian tradition, one gets only one thing directly from the Holy Spirit. This is the first fruit of or from, the Holy Spirit. This is spiritual awakening/spiritual awareness. This is to be converted. Then one is given by God to follow Jesus (which is to be healed by the Spirit of Jesus).

The first fruit of the Holy Spirit is simply an awakening. One gets nothing more from the Holy Spirit. One simply awaken to one's own spirit which was previously dead to one. This is the act of saving one's heart/spirit. This means that previously one was led only by one's own flesh and now one can also be led by one's own spirit. And indeed, evil things can flow from one's own heart/spirit. Therefore this act of having one's spirit saved is far from the done deal:

Matthew: 15 King James Version (KJV)
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:


After having one's spirit saved, one must become an adopted child of God. Then no evil thoughts will flow out of one's heart/spirit and motive one. Becoming a child of God is achieved by discerning the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit, in real time, all the time. Then be led unconditionally, in real time, all the time, by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned within one's own heart/spirit, even if one has to transgress the ten commandments.

After receiving the first fruit of the Holy Spirit, every things else must comes to one, through the Spirit of Jesus. That is, one must be led by Spirit of Jesus (as discerned within one's own heart/spirit). Then one becomes a child of God, like Jesus and differs in no way from Jesus Christ (with only one exception, Jesus is Lord of all).
 
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Gurucam

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Jesus came among the Jews for the following reason:

Jesus came among the Jews for the following reason:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.


The above confirm why God sent Jesus. God sent Jesus to redeem them who were under the ten commandments. This is the generations of Abraham (they were all under the ministration of death which are ten commandments).

Jesus came to do-away-with the ten commandments and replace the ten commandants with His Spirit. And Jesus did exact what he was sent to do. He did-away-with the ten commandments and replace the ten commandants with His Spirit..

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty


Those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus become adopted children of God:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Adoption as children of God comes to those who can and do, commune with and are led by, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, as discerned within each of their own hearts/spirits, even if they have to transgress the ten commandments:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

In the above, to be justified "from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses" is to have God given justification to transgress the ten commandments.

The following says that one has God given instruction to transgress the ten commandants in order to serve in the "newness of spirit":


Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


As an aspiring Christians let no unawares (spiritually dead) false spying brethren return you to bondage under the ten commandment:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage


Unawares false spying brethren are cunning, deceitful and down right evil.. They will say and use any which thing to return unsuspecting aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments and so deny them grace of God and the benefits of being in Christ:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage (do not be entangled with the ten commandments).
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised (committed and obliged, to the ten commandments), Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law (if you choose to be under the ten commandments, you are a debtor to uphold all the ten commandments, perfectly).
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law (i.e. the ten commandments); ye are fallen from grace
.

Believe it or not, a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians are unawares false spying brethren. They are in a bad and sad state:

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.


The instruction above is "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law". A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians (arrogantly and self-righteously) convert this to "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it applies to everyone".

The above say: "that every mouth may be stopped". A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians have not stopped their mouths. They deliberately corrupt and distort "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law" into "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it applies to everyone".

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians are all guilty before God. However they all foolishly believe that they are worth before God. They are clearly and openly guilty before God, even before their judgment day. However they live, foolishly, in total denial.

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians have all been deceived by themselves (i.e. their own folly) and/or other false prophets and unawares false spying brethren, who must include Satan/Peter & Co..
 
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Jesus death on the cross was not to bring forgiveness of sin to anyone.

Jesus death on the cross was not to bring forgiveness of sin to anyone.

Jesus' death on the cross was simply to stop the Jews from continuing their foolish blood sacrifice offering of animal and children for the forgiveness of sin. This practice never worked to bring forgiveness of sin. According to the Holy KJV N.,T., this was simply a foolish Jewish practice.

Therefore Jesus would not die on the cross to bring forgiveness of sin to anyone.

Hebrews: 10 KJV N.T.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:


The above confirms that Jesus came "to taketh away the first, that he may establish the second".

Under the Old Jewish system, blood sacrifices were believed to give forgiveness of sin. The above say that this was a flawed belief. The above says, "it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

Therefore "it is not possible that the blood of humans should take away sins."

Therefore Jesus could not and would not, die for the forgiveness of anyone's sin. Jesus knew and knows, that animal and human blood sacrifices count for nothing. If killing animal and humans, as sacrifice for sin was any good (if it worked for the forgiveness of sin) it would not have done-away-with.

Therefore the idea of Jesus dying on the cross for the forgiveness of anyone's sin is totally foolish. Jesus knew that that did not work to give forgiveness of sin. Jesus knew (and confirmed) that killing animal and humans, as sacrifices for forgiveness sin, was an old foolish Jewish believe and practice that did not work to forgive sin.

The question is why did Jesus go along with being killed on the cross, when he knew that it counted for nothing?

Jesus choose to die on the cross simply to go along with the old (foolish) Jewish tradition, on their foolish terms. Jesus did this so as to help the Jews out of foolishness. The Jews could not simply be told that their system/practice was foolish. The Jews were a 'hardened', arrogant, violent and self-righteous bunch. They were also spiritually dead. They believed that the 40 to 60 years that they live on earth was every thing. They had no perception of an eternal life.

Therefore Jesus choose to 'walk the walk' according to the (foolish) ideas of the Jews. Jesus choose to offer himself up as a final blood sacrifice according to the Jewish idea (even though this was foolishness for Jesus).

Jesus simply met the Jews at their simple and foolish level to help them. Jesus went as far as he could to help the Jews, because this was the Will/Spirit of God.

Jesus' decision to be crucified was also expedient and convenient. The work of the physical Jesus was done on earth. It was time to physically leave the surface of earth. So, Jesus choose to die on the cross not because this would bring forgiveness of sin to anyone. Jesus choose to die on the cross, so that the Jews would accept His death as their final sacrifice and stop that foolish and ridiculous practice of offering blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin.

Jesus death on the cross was not to provide forgiveness of sin to the Jews or anyone else. It was simply to stop the Jews from their sinful/useless practice of offering/killing animal and human as a sacrifice for forgiveness of sin.

It is clearly and literally stated in the Holy KJV N.T. that: "it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.".

Certainly also, "it is not possible that the blood of humans should take away sins.".

Therefore the idea and belief that Jesus' death on the cross led to the forgiveness of all past, present and future sins of the Jews, is totally foolish and unsupported.

Also the corresponding idea and belief that Jesus' death on the cross led to the forgiveness of all past, present and future sins of "everyone", is totally foolish and unsupported.

Wake up my friends. One becomes sinless (even if and when, one transgress the ten commandments and other similar ideals and laws) only when one becomes 'converted' and then through the Spirit of Jesus, one becomes an adopted child of God.

Children of God have God give freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments (and other similar ideals and laws), so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This was not earned because Jesus died on the cross. Each human must earn this, individually, through his/her own effort.

First, one must earn the right to be given by God to follow Jesus. This is achieved when one become converted. This is when one ceases being 'the dead' (i.e. when one ceases being dead to one's own heart/spirit).

The next step is, one discerns the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit. Then one must be led into one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do (as discerned within one's own heart/spirit,) even if one has to transgress the ten commandments. This is the only path to being sinless.

Jesus death on the cross was not for the forgiveness of anyone's sin, especially if one esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner. In this case one is not under grace of God and Christ has benefited one nothing.
 
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Jesus came among the Jews for the following reason:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Hebrews: 2 King James Version (KJV)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


The above confirm why God sent Jesus. God sent Jesus to redeem them who were under the ten commandments. Them who were under the ten commandments is the generations of Abraham. These were the Jews. They were all under the ministration of death which are ten commandments.

The above says: Jesus came to destroy 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. The ten commandments are the ministration of death. The ten commandments is 'him who had the power of death that is the devil'.

Therefore, Jesus came to do-away-with (destroy) the ten commandments and replace the ten commandants with His Spirit. And Jesus did exact what he was sent to do. He did-away-with (destroyed) the ten commandments and replace the ten commandants with His Spirit:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty


Of course the Jews would say that they needed no redemption from the ten commandments.

Also Satan/Peter would also say that he, his popes and their followers needed no redemption from the ten commandments.

The difference is that the Jews are straight and clear. They totally rejected Jesus and the above. And remained under the ten commandments.

However Satan/Peter, his popes and their followers did the same. They rejected Jesus and His new approach to righteousness and they continue to enforce, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments on each other. However they falsely claim to be Christians and the body of Christ.

Not only did Jesus identify Peter to be Satan. The gospel of the ten commandment (which is the ministration of death and the devil) was committed onto Peter.

Clearly Satan/Peter was opposing and undermining Jesus (who came to do away with the ten commandments). This made Peter, Satan. And Satan/Peter was expected to continue to oppose and undermine Jesus.

Clearly Satan/Peter had remained a Jews (one in the flesh) and he was expected to remain a Jews (one who esteem the ten commandments). And Satan/Peter was expect to, any which way, remain a Jew who esteemed and promoted, the ten commandments and so remain, one among 'the dead'. (For the ten commandments 'killeth' spiritual awareness.

Seemed that Jesus could do nothing for Satan/Peter (and his likes).

Jesus' attitude toward people like Satan/Peter was, 'let the dead bury their dead'. Jesus had no choice. Jesus was experiencing serious violent opposition, especially from the Jews, i.e. with respect to His doing-away-with the ten commandments.

It is also indicated that Jesus was experiencing opposition from Satan/Peter, from within his inner circle. Satan/peter was savoring the things of man (flesh) and not the things of God. The ten commandments is a thing of man/the flesh. The spirit of Jesus is a thing of Spirit and God.

And so the gospel of the ten commandments were committed onto Satan?Peter, because he was already irreversibly entangled with the ten commandments. And Jesus left two options. People were free to follow Him and eventually come to heaven in the spirit realm in three day after they die or follow Satan/Peter to hell inside the earth for what could be an eternity (i.e. when they die).

Jesus experienced serious violent opposition from the Jews. It seems also that Jesus also receive serious (violent) opposition, even from, Satan/Peter when He did-away-with the ten commandments.

It is very clear that Satan/Peter, who was within Jesus' inner circle, remained very committed to the ten commandments, which Jesus pointedly came to do-away-with.

The Holy KJV N.T. confirmed in the clearest possible terms that: the ten commandments was found to make one 'the dead' and keep one the dead. The ten commandments were the devil. And Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit. Yet people still wanted to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. So the ten commandments had to be left in place for these people. Free choice (thought foolish) is a protected right.

Jesus resigned himself to 'let those who wanted to continue under the ten commandments continue to do so. They will be made 'the the dead' and/or stay 'the dead'. Then they will simply bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. And so be it. Jesus resign himself to 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Of course the other option was left for those who wanted to drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to follow Jesus who went to spirit heaven, in three day after He died.

Have no doubt. the Holy KJV N.T. confirmed that Jesus' attitude toward those who discerned wisdom in the ten commandments and who (violently or other wise) wanted to remain entangled with the ten commandments, was very clear. Jesus instructed:

"let the dead bury their dead". More precisely let the dead bury their dead inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter (for Satan/Peter would inevitably went there when he died).

The ten commandments are a very serious curse. Everyone who, in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, are 'the dead' and they are invariably buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter.

Clearly Satan/Peter, his popes, their other operatives, their church and follower enforced and kept themselves and others under, the ten commandments (which was found to make one and keep one, 'the dead').

For the past 2000 odd years, both Satan/Peter and the Jews, have repeatedly demonstrated their vested interests in denying Jesus and corruptly returning unsuspecting aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments.

2000 odd years ago, Jesus knew it all. 2000 odd years ago, Jesus issued the following warning, about people who (He knew) would deceive aspiring Christians, by returning them to bondage under the ten commandments.

Of course the above warning was clearly intended to warn us about Peter/Satan and the Jews:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage
(under the ten commandments)

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage (do not be entangled with the ten commandments).
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised (committed and obliged, to the ten commandments), Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law (if you choose to be under the ten commandments, you are a debtor to uphold all the ten commandments, perfectly).
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law (i.e. the ten commandments); ye are fallen from grace
.

Million of supposed Christian popes, priests, elders, etc. ignore and defy Jesus, who did-away-with the ten commandments. They are deceiving billions into esteeming and using, that which Jesus did-away-with (i.e. the ten commandments). They are falsely claiming and actively promoting that esteeming and using the ten commandments is a part of Christianity.

For the past 2000 odd years billions have collectively relegated and persecuted Jesus and authentic Christians (the chosen few) on the surface of earth . . . while simultaneously parroting and boasting that Jesus is God and therefore, more than just the Son of God and Lord for Christians.

They deny Jesus to suit their practical convenience while falsely flattering and falsely elevate Jesus, with their mouths.

Billions of Catholics and traditional Christians exhibit no sincerity towards Jesus and authentic Christianity. They do not care about the purity of Christianity. However they exhibit a strong collective need to appease their false ego by parroting false baseless platitudes to Jesus.

Billions of Catholics and traditional Christians are simply practicing mass deception in the name of Christianity. The question is are they all foolish and not even deserving to be called, far less to able to be chosen? Is this the sad state of these people?
 
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Billions argue about and defend their theories which are all foolishness.

Billions argue about and defend their theories which are all foolishness.

All of the following verses from the Holy KJV N.T. (and many others) say and/or relate to, one and the same thing. This is that Christians/children of God have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit and that false prophets (who are children of the flesh/the dead) will (always) deny Christians/children of God this right and so persecute them:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage
(under the ten commandments)

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage (do not be entangled with the ten commandments).
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised (committed and obliged, to the ten commandments), Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law (if you choose to be under the ten commandments, you are a debtor to uphold all the ten commandments, perfectly).
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law (i.e. the ten commandments); ye are fallen from grace

Acts 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

In the above 'the law' that one is "delivered from, so that one must serve in the newness of spirit", is the 'thou shalt not covet commandment' and by extension the ten commandments . . . to continue:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
.

The above say, in no uncertain terms that those who believe in Jesus has God given freedom. liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments (so as to serve in the newness of spirit). This is the instruction to aspiring Christians.

Aspiring Christians are not under the ten commandments, in any way. Aspiring Christians do not uphold the ten commandments. In fact aspiring Christians and Christians transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is their God given instruction and right.

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians are not authentic Christians. This is because they esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. And they falsely claim to be Christians and to be 'the body of Christ'. Clearly they are the body of the Satan/the devil. The Ten Commandments were confirmed to be devil/Satan, in ideas form.

Additionally, a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians have been denying authentic Christians their God given right to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirits.

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians have a 2000 odd year history of being self-righteously evil. They have been serving the devil. They have been persecuting children of God (who are Christians/Saints).

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians esteems the ten commandments. The ten commandments is the ministration of death. The ten commandments is, "him who had the power of death, that is the devil".

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians are 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' who have been persecuting 'children of God' who are authentic Christians.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


The above say that a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians will not be heir to God's kingdom of the heaven. They will be cast out into hell, if they do not stop their evil ways.

The above cannot be any clearer. This is the literal truth in the Holy KJV N.T., which false prophets and unaware false spying brethren have been distorting and corrupting so as to deceive billions of unsuspecting innocent aspiring Christians. Jesus forsaw this event when he prophesied:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew: 21 kjv n.t.
43 Therefore I say unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


. . . of course there are billions who argue, against and corrupt even the clearest revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. simply to promote their own ideas and own agendas.

They simply choose to emulate the five foolish virgins (i.e. instead of the five wise virgins). They simply made the wrong choice. They are simply without the 'oil' of truth and so their lights are out/lost. Jesus simply cannot know and/or detect them. It is time to get the 'oil' of truth before to late is the cry.

Jesus is the true vine and God is the husbandman. I am a true branch in Jesus. I post only the literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.. I post them as is, i.e. untouched, uninterpreted and not corrupted. I seek to bear only authentic fruits, in abundance.

John: 15 King James Version (KJV)
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.


Please recognize me, simply for posting the literal truth from the Holy KJV N.T. and so awakening you to truth, as it is, in all its glory.

John: 8 King James Version (KJV)
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


The freedom mention in the above come when one embraces the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus.

Indeed, I post the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and this laws can and will make you free from the ten commandments. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


The Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is anchored on the Spirit of Jesus/the Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession. The divine job of the Spirit of Jesus is to intercede between Saints (according to the things in their individual spirits/hearts and God, according to the Spirit/Will of God.

The law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is: One must be led into all of one's works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit, even if one has to transgress the ten commandments.

It is now up to you. Do not deceive yourself, 'the law of sin and death' is 'the ten commandments'. For the past 2000 odd years, false prophets and unaware false spying brethren have been denying that, in the above. 'the law of sin and death' is 'the ten commandment'.

This denial was geared to corruptly return aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments and so defy Jesus and persecute aspiring Christians (who are children of the God). This is the eternal work of children of the flesh.

Truth is now declared in all clarity and it is here to stay.

You are urged to recognize he who has brought clarity to you.

This is about giving credit where credit is due. This is a dilution (or breaking down) of one's ego. This is humility/meekness. This is the first required step, in one's passage to greater things:

James: 4 KJV
10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

Matthew: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.


The sight of the Lord is the light of truth according to the Holy KJV N.T.. This is the light which the five wise virgins had. when the bridegroom came.

The meek is one who knows that he/others knows nothing himself/themselves. He offer no theory of his own and does not accept and/or defend the theories of other. The meek simply accepts the words in the Holy KJV N.T., as they are, like a child (who has no preconception of 'right or wrong')

Billions of Catholics and traditional Christians are ready to argue about and defend their theories which are all foolishness. They simply cannot be the chosen few who know truth.

The grand folly is that a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians will take to violence, to deny these truths that are simply and literally the fabric of the Holy KJV N.T. and also the essential fabric of authentic Christianity.

A kind of irrational self-self-righteous madness prevails over a billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians. On a daily basis for the past 2000 odd years, Satan/Peter, his popes, their other operatives and associates (i.e. in traditional Christianity) have been turning ordinary people into these kind of blind, mindless, mad and 'spiritually dead' followers. Who are eventually buried inside the earth in hell with Satan/Peter.
 
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For the new year we should . . .

For the new year we should . . .

For the new year we should inquire and talk about how to get and stay, on the right side of Jesus. The right side of Jesus is the spirit side of Jesus and not the flesh side of Jesus:

Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


To be on the right (or spirit) side is to recognize the Lord Jesus. To be on the left or flesh side of Jesus is to not recognize the Lord Jesus.

Jesus had two presentations, which represent and are actually, his two sides. One is physical (i.e. the left side). The other is spirit (i.e. the right side). The physical Jesus was not the Lord. Jesus is Lord only in His Spirit side:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven


Jesus had two presentations, as followers:

1. the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus. It this form Jesus is not the Lord from and in (spirit) heaven. In this format Jesus is not the Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians. This is Jesus' 'left side'. This is not the correct side for aspiring Christians and Christians.

2. the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus. In this form Jesus is the Lord, from and in (spirit) heaven. This is Jesus 'right side'. This is the correct side for aspiring Christians and Christians.

To be on the right side of Jesus convey two things.
1. it conveys to be on the correct side of Jesus
2. it also conveys to be on the 'spirit' side of Jesus and not to be on the 'flesh/physical side of Jesus.

In some way our own individual brain controls each of us. This mean that if one's brain is developed/actualized only a little, then one will be controlled/ruled by a little knowledge. And one can expect one's life to be hellish.

On the other hand if one's brain is developed/actualized very much, then one will be ruled/guide/controlled by lots more knowledge. An one can expect one's life to be heavenly.

Therefore it is reasonable to seek to understand one's own brain and how to bring more and more of one's own brain on-line (i.e.into functionality).

The brain of every human has two sides as follows;
1. the left side brain hemisphere.
2. the right side brain hemisphere.

The above say one cannot be wise if one is functional though only one side of one's brain. The average person is functional only through his/her left side brain. Such people believe that they are wise. This is all delusion/deception.

The right side brain in linked to spiritual awareness/things of God. However the masses seem 'dead' to this side of their brain.

The left side brain is linked to physicality and things of man/flesh. The masses seen very linked to this side of their brains. They delight in generalized ideals and laws, like the ten commandments.

The above is directly linked to being 1.) 'the dead' or to being converted and 2.) being awaken to/aware of one's own heart/spirit.

One who is 'the dead' functions only through one's left side brain hemisphere. The right side brain hemisphere of a person who is 'the dead' is shut down. That is, the right side brain hemisphere is dormant and not used by this person.

To be converted is to awaken to one's right side brain hemisphere and bring it into functionality.

Only physicality can be know through one one's left side brain hemisphere.

In order to have a direct knowledge of spirit and the spirit realm one's right side brain hemisphere must be on line and function for one. That is, one must be awakened to/aware of one's right side brain hemisphere.

This awakening to/becoming aware of one's right side brain hemisphere is the act of being converted. This is to be 'born again'. This is is to be 'born a second time', this time to be born of Spirit. It is simply to awaken to one's own heart/spirit which is gained when one's right side brain hemisphere comes into one's awareness and so become accessible and function to one.

This happen through two essential passages:
1. one own informed effort (meditation, using an intellectual path way, etc.)
2. through the grace of the Holy Spirit.

The above should not be confused with being in Christ/a child of God. The above is a small fist passage. After becoming converted, one must be healed by Jesus. Only when one is healed by Jesus can one become, the following things which is actually one thing which is all the following descriptions and attributes:
1. a Christian.
2. a child of God
3. saved and delivered to God kingdom of heaven
4. in the body of Christ.
5. under grace of God
6. a Saint
7. one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God.
8. one can and must be, led by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart and (so serve # 1 to 7 above).
9. serving one's own self determined (spirit based) mission in total harmony with the Holy Spirit. This is one's self determined and God given mission in the body of Christ. This underlies and defines a Christian life style.

The Spirit of Jesus put together this Christian life style for each person. This is is an individualize plan for each person. This is why each person is required to search his/or her own heart/spirit so as to discern, be informed by and led by, the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit, in real time all the time.

It is all totally individualized and never generalized as obtained under the Old system.

The above Christian life style cannot be known by the reading the Holy scriptures. It cannot be informed and guided by generalized ideals and laws like the ten commandments. This life style is anchored on totally individualized information and guidance which come though the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

The tenants in the Holy scriptures are very generalized ideas and laws. The tenants in the Holy scriptures are for 'the dead'. 'The dead' (i.e. those who are 'dead' to their own individual hearts/spirits. 'The dead' cannot get precise individual information and guidance (which come only through communion with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth, through one's own heart/spirit). 'The dead' are stuck with generalized collective information and guidance which comes though only physical channels.

On the other hand, Christians get all their knowledge and guidance through spirit channels. They are privy to highly and totally individualized information and guidance. This come only through a connection between each of their own hearts/spirits and the Spirit of Jesus.Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession.

Each person who seek this life style must become 'converted' (i.e. cease being the dead'). Then discern the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit. Then be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do, even if one has to transgress the ten commandments.

The above defines the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. This life come with God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments (and all other similar ideals and laws). When one lives in this manner, one does get sin but instead one is glorified by God.

The divine job of the Spirit of Jesus (Who is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession) is to intercede for each person (according to things in each of their spirits), with the Holy Spirit.

For each person, the Spirit of Jesus is a perfect amalgam of 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration which each person loves very dearly within each of their own heart/spirit and 2. the real time Will/Spirit of God.

The above life style requires one to transgress the ten commandments. In fact, one cannot live the above Christian lifestyle if one does not deliberately transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

One cannot be and is not a Christian if one cannot discern and live this spirit and Spirit based lifestyle of total liberty (to transgress the ten commandments), in real time, all the time, on earth.

'The dead' seek generalized ideal and laws for their management and guidance. They need man to look after them. They do not yet trust God to look after them. They have not yet learn to turn the other cheek and trust the justice of God.

The Jews killed Jesus. Do you for a second doubt that the Jews were not judged and and will not continue to be judge? They continue to persecute Jesus and Christianity. Satan/Peter, his popes and their church continue to do the same thing. They continue to deny and undermine Jesus and His New covenant and instead esteem and promote the Old covenant.

They did not simply continue to esteem the Old covenant. They actually and actively denied and undermined Jesus and His New covenant . . . while pretending to recognize and lay claim to, Jesus. It is all a deception and a charade.

The Jews and Satan/Peter and his church have been equally guilty before God for denying that the ten commandments apples only to those who are under the ten commandments. Instead they say with their mouth and promote, the Antichrist ideas, that every one is under the ten commandments:

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.


Every one is not under the ten commandments. This is the basis of Jesus' New covenant. Jesus came to the earth to do-away-with the ten commandments (which is the devil in ideas form) and replace the ten commandments with His Spirit. And Jesus did exactly what he came to do.
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Jesus came to destroy "him that had the power of death, that is the devil". Jesus identified the ten commandments to be 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. And Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replace it with His Spirit. This was since 2000 odd years ago. This led to Christianity.

Since 2000 odd years ago, aspiring Christians and Christians have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

The Jews and Satan/Peter, his popes and their church have been deceitfully and corruptly seeking to (and successfully) returning unsuspecting aspiring Christians and Christians to bondage under the ten commandments . . . and so denying them grace of God and Christianity.

The Jews and Satan/Peter, his popes and their church have been actively denying Jesus and Christianity and they are 'the dead'/children of the flesh who have actively and constructively persecuting Jesus and Christians who are the children of spirit/children of God:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


According to the Holy KJV N.T., if the millions of Jews and the billions of Catholics and traditional Christians do not change their way, of persecuting Christians/children of God and seeking to deny them their God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. They (in their present state) cannot be among the chosen few who are carded to be heirs to God's kingdom of heaven.
 
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Let us start the new years on the right side of Jesus:

Let us start the new years on the right side of Jesus:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


Notice who enters heaven, in the final count:

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.


Notice that Abraham, the prophets and Issac and his generations inherit God's kingdom of heaven. Ishmael and his generations are trusted out.

According to the Holy KJV N.T., Issac and his generations are the spirit born. These are the generation of Abraham who ceased being Jews and became Christian. These are the children of God/Saints/Christians. Together with Abraham, and the prophets, only Issac and his generations entered/inherit God's kingdom of heaven. These are the children of God:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus


Notice that when one becomes a Christians then one becomes a child of God and such a one ceases being a Jew.

According to the Holy KJV N.T. a Jew is a child of the flesh (i.e. he is born under and kept under the ten commandments). This is the predicament of Jews. In order for Jews to become a children of God they must cease being Jews (i.e. cease being one under the ten commandments) and become Christians.

A Jew cannot be and is not a Christian. And a Christian cannot be and is not a jew

According to the Holy KJV N.T., Ishmael and his generations are children of the flesh. They remained Jews and continue to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, which makes one and keeps one 'the dead'. Ishmael and his generations are trusted out of God's kingdom of heaven:

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


Fact is Issac and his generation are spirit born they are the Jews who cease being Jews and became Christians. They are the children of God. They are brought forth under the New covenant. This is related to heaven above (spirit heaven where Jesus went). This is the transgress the the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit inn harmony with the Holy Spirit covenant. This is the N.T. Jesus covenant.

On the other hand Ishmael and his generation are the children of the flesh. They are born under the ten commandments, which killeth. This is the Old flawed covenant.:\

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; (1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But (2.) Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.


Notice that Ishmael was a child of the flesh and he was born under the Old flawed covenant. This is old ten commandment covenant which killeth (I.e. make one a child of the flesh). Ishmael and his generation continued to esteem the ten commandments, They remained Jews. Their seed was not counted for children of God.

On the other hand Issac was born under the spirit covenant. He was born according to Spirit. This was the New 'transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit' covenant. Issac was a child of Spirit. And his seed was counted for children of God. This was because they ceased being Jews (cease being under the ten commandments) and became Christians (i.e. people who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit):

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


The above says, one is delivered from the law so that one can and must serve in the newness of spirit. The above also says in total clarity that, the laws which one is delivered from so as to serve in the newness of spirit is, the 'thou shalt not covet' commandments and by extension the ten commandments.

The above also says that the 'thou shalt not covet' commandment and by extension the ten commandments, was (supposedly) ordained to be onto life. However they were found to be onto death. That is, the ten commandments was found to killeth. The ten commandments were found to make and keep one, 'the dead'. This is totally supported by:

2 Corinthian: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


The above confirms that the ten commandments were the ministration of death. They killeth. They makes and keeps one, 'the dead'. The above also confirm that that Jesus did away with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit.

Therefore, according to the Holy KJV N.T., those who remained under the ten commandments (i.e. the Jews) continue to be killeth. They continue to be 'the dead' and they also continue to bring forth 'the dead', who are also called children of the flesh. Their children continue to be flesh born, like Ishmael.

On the other hand those who transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit, bring forth only spirit born children who are children of God, like Issac.

The latter are the chosen few. And only they inherit God's kingdom of heaven.

Do not let the Jews, Satan/Peter, his popes and their church (i.e. those who discern wisdom in and esteem, the old flawed and 'killething' ten commandments) 'pull the wool over your eyes'. . . . and return you to bondage under the ten commandments, which deny you grace of God and Christ.

This is simple kindergarten sums, from the Holy KJV N.T.. This is not quantum mechanics.
 
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Have no doubt, Jesus had two presentations. Are you esteeming the correct one?

Have no doubt, Jesus had two presentations. Are you esteeming the correct one?

Have no doubt, Jesus had two presentations. Are you esteeming the correct one?

One presentations of Jesus was physical and temporal. This is described as the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus. In this format Jesus is not the Lord (for aspiring Christians and Christians). In this format Jesus is no more. In this format Jesus was strictly temporal. This is not the Lord for Christians.

The other presentation of Jesus is Spirit and eternal. This is described as the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Jesus. In this format Jesus is the Lord in heaven. In this format Jesus is the Lord (for aspiring Christians and Christians):

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

2 Corinthian: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.


The physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus was not consequential. One can blaspheme him and one shall be forgiven:

Matthew: 12 KJV N.T.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come


The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus is unlike the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus who was not the Lord in heaven.

The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus must be worshiped like the Holy Spirit and He must be afforded all things due to the Holy Spirit.

The above separate goats from sheep. This is literally a separation of those who follow Paul (i.e. sheep) from those who follow Peter (goats).

Fact is Paul commune with, knew and got his commission (which is the Christian, 'follow Jesus', commission) from the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus who is the Lord in heaven. These are the sheep.

On the other hand Peter knew, communed with and got his commission (which is the 'let the dead bury their dead' commission) from the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Jesus, who is not the Lord from or in, heaven. These are the goats.
 
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The second coming of Jesus has happened 2000 odd years ago. It is a done deal.

The second coming of Jesus has happened 2000 odd years ago. It is a done deal.

The second coming of Jesus has happened 2000 odd years ago. This is a 'done-deal'. Jesus returned in His Spirit form, as the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession.

Jesus returned, the second time, clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus:

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


Jesus is the truth, the way and the life and no one comes onto (intercedes with) God/the Holy Spirit but by going through Jesus. Therefore, the Spirit of truth mentioned in the above is the Spirit of Jesus, Who is also the Spirit of Intercession (because no one comes onto God/the Holy Spirit except he/she goes through Jesus).

Jesus (clad in his flesh body) left 2000 odd years ago and He returned (clad only in His Spirit body, immediately after. This is the second coming of Jesus.

Jesus' Spirit is the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of intercession. This Spirit was made available 2000 odd years ago, to the the generations of Abraham and this Spirit is to exist for all eternity:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Jesus was and is, connected to the promise of the Spirit that was made to Abraham and his seed. This promise was made to Abraham by God.

Abraham was promised a Spirit. This Spirit was to be given to make intercession between the generations of Abraham and the Holy Spirit and guide them into a sinless life of freedom, liberty and justification. This was to replace their old flawed covenant/system of bondage. This Promised Spirit is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Lord Jesus. However one had to be 'converted' in order to benefit and use this Spirit of Jesus.

It was therefore necessary for Jesus to come in physical form to bridge the gap between Abraham's generations, who were mostly 'the dead'/children of the flesh and could not be reached by His Spirit. They were in the flesh and Jesus had to come in the flesh to reach them and tell them about His Spirit which was the Spirit that was promised to their Father Abraham and his generations, by God.

The physical 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus was not the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham. Jesus came in this physical format simply to guide and inform spiritually dead people about the coming of His Spirit and how they must be actualized and so prepare themselves for a life under the wisdom and guidance of His Spirit.

The entire revelations, in the Holy KJV N.T., about the Spirit of Jesus, are simply instructions about the actualization which one needs and how one must earn this actualization, in order to discern and follow the Spirit of Jesus.

Having left the above instruction, Jesus willingly died physically, to give way to his return in Spirit form, as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession. In this Spirit format Jesus informs and guide, all who actually follow him. Jesus tells them all things which he could not tell them in physical words. He tells humans (who actually follow Him) all truth through a connection between His Spirit and the individual spirit of each of His followers. This is not done through physically spoken and physically written words.

Fact is following Jesus is about discerning and being led by His Spirit (who is also the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) from within one's own heart/spirit.

After Jesus' crucifixion, He rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body. In this Spirit format Jesus is Lord in heaven. He is on the right side of the Holy Spirit ready, willing and able to make Intercession for those who follow him, with the Holy Spirit.

The above is Jesus serving His divine and eternal mission, since 2000 odd years ago. This is how Jesus returned the second time. He returned as the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession to serve humans and God, so heaven can come to the surface of earth, as it is in spirit heaven. This is the Spirit which God promised to Abraham and his generations:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven


The 'first man' is the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus, who was not the Lord.

The second man is the Spirit. 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus Who is the Lord in heaven.

Are you guys ignoring the Spirit. 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus Who is the Lord in heaven while foolishly esteeming the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus, who was not the Lord.

Are you guys deceived by false prophets, simply because you refuse to read the Holy KJV N.T. your selves and so leave yourselves wide opened to be deceived by false prophets, who had their own antichrist agendas?

Please do not blame anyone for your sad state. This was and continue to be, your choice. Every one is given to do their thing. The Jews, Satan/Peter, his popes and their church also did their things. And you by your own choice did your thing of following the Jews, Satan/Peter, his popes and their church.

In fact the Jews, Satan/Peter, his popes and their church simply provided a niche which you were actually seeking. You were simply guided by your own (limited) intelligence, into you own sad and unfortunate circumstances.

God simply offers all opportunities (choices), without judgment. In fact God is obliged to offer all opportunities. (choices) without judgment. It is left to each person to make his own choice and received the consequences that comes with the choice one makes. On judgment one stands alone. And simply receives the consequence (supposedly good or bad) of the choices one made and practiced.

If one follow Satan/Peter, his popes and their church one goes eventually, to hell inside the earth. with Satan/Peter, for an indefinite stay.

If on the other hand, one follow Jesus, one goes to God's kingdom in spirit heaven, in three day after death, to be with Jesus in the mansion in Gods' house which He went to prepared for those who actually follow Him. The only way to actually follow Jesus is the spirit and Spirit way. It is not the flesh way.
 
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1 Thessalonians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


The above is a gravely misunderstood revelation.

The above is not an 'end of time' prophesy.

The above has been on-going (after every Christian dies) for the past 2000 odd years (i.e. since the Spirit of Jesus was appointed the Lord in heaven, for Christians).

Since Jesus was made available as the Spirit of Jesus. He has been running the above service.

The dead in Christ means one who dies as a Christian. A Christian differs in no way from Jesus Christ. A Christians is entitled to, can and do, rise, in three days (or less) after death. When Christians dies they rise, in three day, to be like angels in spirit heaven.

Indeed Jesus come to meet each and every Christians, when they die. Jesus descends from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God to claim Christians who have just died. Jesus moves in this very forceful and assertive manner to ward off any one else (form hell) who might be seeking to calm this person.

When ever an authentic Christian dies, he separates from his physical body clad only in his spirit body. Then Jesus (clad only in His Spirit body) come to claim that person for citizenship in spirit heaven with Him. Jesus comes (with a forceful attributed and manner) to claim them and take them, to spirit heaven and into the mansion in God's house which he prepared for them.

Rest assured that Christians are not allowed to be buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter for any length of stay. Christians are not left inside the earth (for an indefinite stay), when they die. They rise to spirit heaven (clad only in their spirit bodies) within three day after death.

Jesus descends from heaven and take them to spirit heaven in three day after they die. In fact. many authentic Christians may rise to spirit heaven, in less than three day, after they die.

"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them" conveys that those who are still physically alive on earth shall remain on earth to finish their life on earth. However those in Christ, who remain shall (when they die) also rise in three days or less, to join those had already died and rose to heaven to be with Jesus.

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God"

The above describes the force and power which Jesus use when he descends, instantly and always, from heaven to claim every Christian when each and every one of them die. This is to assert His power and so discourage any forces of Satan/the devil from hell. No Christian is ever buried inside the earth in hell, with Satan/Peter, to wait on the still to come, day of the Lord Jesus. This is a Satan/Peter idea.

Only those who follow Satan/Peter are buried inside the earth in hell, with Satan/Peter. to wait on the, still to come, day of the Lord Jesus.

Only 'the dead' (those who follow Satan/Peter, his popes and their church) are buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter to wait for the, still to come, day of the Lord Jesus when their spirits may be saved. These are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

Their retreval from hell inside the earth, with Satan/Peter seems very 'iffy'. The promise is that their spirit may be saved in the, still to come, day of the Lord Jesus.

Those who follow Jesus take a totally different path. Within three day after their dead, they rise to be like angles in heaven, with Jesus in the mansion in God's house which He went to prepared for them. These are the chosen few who actually 'follow Jesus'.

"so shall we ever be with the Lord".

The Lord is a Spirit. To be with the Lord is not about the misguided belief that Jesus will return in a physical body so that one can be with the Lord.

One is with the Lord Jesus only if and when, one can and do discern the Spirit of the Lord Jesus within one's own heart/spirit. And one commune with the Spirit Jesus and is led into all one's works by this Spirit:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

2 Corinthian: 3 KJV N.T.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now (since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession)itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Do not look for a physical Jesus. The physical Jesus was a sign for the Spirit Jesus. The physical Jesus was sent because the generations of Abraham were a wicked and adulterous generation who need physical signs for spiritual things. Fact is there will be no more signs.

Abraham was promised a Spirit, by God. And this is not a physical Jesus. This is solely a Spirit Jesus. The Jews has had their messiah. They denied their messiah and killed him, and so be it. No more (no other messiah) is forthcoming:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.


The physical Jesus was nothing of consequences. He was and is not the Lord. He cannot return as the Lord. 2000 odd years ago, Jesus left so that the actual Lord can become available. This Lord was established for all eternity as the Spirit of Jesus. This is Jesus clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. In a physical body, Jesus is not Lord and cannot be Lord.

Take heed.
 
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There will be no return of Jesus, in a physical body:

There will be no return of Jesus, in a physical body:

According to the Holy KJV N.T., since Jesus came in a physical body and left (2000 odd years ago), truth and Truth, were made available and introduced to the generations of Abraham, for the first time:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


The above say that Moses did not use 'great plainness of speech' when he delivered the ten commandments, etc. to the Jews . . . Moses lied. This was not a blatant lie. Moses was led to lie to the Jews, under instructions of God. The Jews, back then, were simply not given by God to get or know truth.

Truth and grace came to the generations of Abraham only through the advent of Jesus. Prior to the advent of Jesus (i.e. under Moses) the generations of Abraham had no truth, Truth, grace of God and/or Christ.

Prior to Jesus, the generations of Abraham were managed under half truth and/or lies. In fact, prior to Jesus, the generations of Abraham were managed under very detrimental things which include the ten commandments.

The ten commandments were the ministration of death. The ten commandment were found to be, 'him who had the power of death, that is the devil'. The ten commandments were found to make and keep one 'the dead'.

The ten commandments were the ministration of death and the devil in ideas form And Jesus did-away-with the ten commandments and replaced them with His Spirit.

The new Christian covenant is all about transgression the ten commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

The most fundamental truth is that all things, related to God, grace of God, Jesus, being in Christ and Christian information and guidance, are totally spiritual (and 'not seen') and only spiritually discerned, i.e., directly from the the living Spirit of Jesus, through one's own heart/spirit.

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


The above provides, at least three sets of information, as follows:
1. God is a Spirit
2. one must worship God in spirit
3. one must worship God in truth.

God must be recognized to be a Spirit. And the worship of God must be done in spirit. This is directly linked to:

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T ,
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


The above confirms that knowing God and worshiping God is done through the intuitive faculties of one's spirit. This is a spirit to Spirit thing.

However the above also say that God must be worshiped in truth. Who then is truth? Fact is Jesus is truth:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


The above also confirms that no man cometh onto the Father (i.e. God, Who is the Holy Spirit), without going through Jesus. The above also confirm that Jesus equals truth.

Therefore to worship God (who is the Holy Spirit) one must go through Jesus. However the above also say that God is a Spirit and spirit things relates only to spirit things.

Therefore to worship God, Who is a Spirit (the Holy Spirit) in 'truth. One must worship God, Who is Spirit (the Holy Spirit) by going through the Spirit of Jesus. And the Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of Truth Who makes intercession with God who is the Holy Spirit.

In addition to all of the above one who seeks to worship God, Who is the Holy Spirit by going through the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of truth, one has to do so spiritually. That is, one must do so through one's own spirit/heart. This is not a physical effort or physical action, in any way.

This requires one to, first, awaken to/become aware of, one's own heart/spirit. This is to cease being 'the dead' by becoming spiritually aware. This is to be converted. This (becoming spiritually aware) makes one 'given by God to follow Jesus'. Only then can one seek and worship God, Who is the Holy Spirit, by going through the Spirit of Jesus. This is because the Spirit of Jesus can be discerned and known only within one's own heart/spirit.

'The dead' describes one who is 'dead' to his/her own spirit/heart. Such a one cannot access and/or search his own heart/spirit. Such a one must become awakened to/aware of his own heart/spirit before he can search his own heart/spirit so as to discern the Spirit of Jesus within his own heart/spirit

Having made the above transformation to spiritual awareness one can go to the next step. This is: One must search one's own heart/spirit and discern the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit. The Spirit of Jesus is also the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession. Then, one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit, even if one has to transgress the ten commandments. This is how one believes in Jesus (i.e. by obeying His Spirit) and is justified to transgress the ten commandments:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession)itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


The above is how one goes through Jesus (Who is also the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) to come onto God Who is the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Jesus intercedes between each Christian (according to things in each of their own hearts/spirit. with the Holy Spirit.

From the above intercession, the Spirit of Jesus comes up with precisely what each Christian must know, pray for, say and do. And by searching each of their own heart/spirit each Christian comes to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him/her to know, pray for, say and do.

What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do is a always a perfect amalgam of the following two things:
1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which one loves in one's own heart/spirit. These are the essential fabric of one's own heart/spirit and
2. the current Will/Spirit of God.

The above are three living things. One's own spirit, the Spirit of Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all living things with real time wills.

The above is the divine magic that Jesus does for each Christian by operating through His Spirit which is the Spirit of truth and the Spirit of Intercession. This makes Jesus the most divine, Son of God, with respect to Abraham's generations and other humans. Jesus, as the Spirit of Jesus in the above service, is the most divine gift from God, for humans.

Through the Spirit of Jesus humans can materially have and materially create God's kingdom on the surface of earth, as it is in spirit heaven. Being led by the Spirit of Jesus is the Christian way of life. Soon only those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus will be permitted on the surface of earth. This is the reality on the surface of earth when God's kingdom, as it is in spirit heaven, comes to (is fully formed on) the surface of earth.

It is therefore incumbent on every one to learn how to be led by the Spirit of Jesus if one wants to stay on earth or return to earth, in God's kingdom of heaven.

Notice that Jesus came first in a temporal physical body, as an ordinary man to experience the life of ordinary spiritually dead people. Jesus was born under the ten commandments, as one among 'the dead'. In this format Jesus was the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus who was not and is not the Lord in heaven.

From the above Jesus 'worked up the ladder' to become a human in a physical body 'in Christ'. Then after shedding his physical body, he 'rose' to spirit heaven, to become the Lord (for Christians) in spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body.

Therefore when Jesus left physically, He returned a second time. Jesus came a second time (2000 odd years ago), clad only in His Spirit body as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Jesus, Who is the Lord in and from heaven. And he has been informing, guiding and serving aspiring Christians and authentic Christians for the past 2000 odd years.

This idea of waiting for Jesus to come a second time is not supported by revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.. This is a Satanic idea which has been deceiving, derailing and misleading billions:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew 22:14King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew 7:14King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Rest assured that the billion strong Catholics and the billion strong traditional Christians who all believe is a 'second coming of Jesus in a physical body' cannot be the chosen few who have found and know the truth. They must be deceived masses, like it or not.

Jesus has long returned, as the Spirit of Truth. Jesus second coming was not in a physical body but as a Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. This is the real Lord Jesus. This is in total fulfillment of the promise made to Abraham. Abraham was promised a Spirit, by God. Jesus returned, 2000 odd years ago, as the Spirit of Truth. This is the Spirit that was promised (by God) to Abraham and his seed. It is a totally done deal:

John 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


Fact is, Jesus is the truth. The Spirit of truth is the Spirit of Jesus. This is Jesus, clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God body.

2000 odd years ago, the physical Jesus left and returned in a Spirit body as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Jesus, Who is the Lord in heaven. This was the second coming of Jesus. In this format Jesus is the Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians. This is the Spirit that was promised by God to Abraham and his generations.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


The above say that Jesus rose in a spirit body, to be the Lord in heaven. And he is on the right side of the Holy Spirit (in spirit heaven) ready willing and able to make intercession for aspiring Christians and Christians, with the Holy Spirit.

Jesus was not the above when he was in a human physical body. The above is the second coming of Jesus. This time as the Spirit of Jesus/the Spirit of Truth/the Spirit of Intercession. This is the same Jesus, no longer as a temporal physical person but now as an eternal Lord in Spirit form.
 
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Gurucam

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The Jews, back then, were not given by God to know/get truth from Moses.

The Jews, back then, were not given by God to know/get truth from Moses.

According to the Holy KJV N.T., since Jesus came in a physical body and left (2000 odd years ago), truth and Truth, were made available and introduced to the generations of Abraham, for the first time. And even then, up to that time, only the disciples were given 'truth' by Jesus:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:


The above say that Moses did not use 'great plainness of speech' when he delivered the ten commandments, etc. to the Jews . . . Moses lied. This was not a blatant lie. Moses was led to lie to the Jews, under instructions of God. The Jews, back then, were simply not given by God to get or know truth.

Fact is, back in time, when Moses gave the ten commandments the Jews were not given to know truth. And even later, when Jesus came in a physical body, among the Jews, 2000 odd years ago, only the twelve disciples were given by God to follow Jesus and to get the truth from Jesus.

Fact is only the disciples were given by God to follow Jesus:

John: 6 KJV N.T.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

Jesus delivered truth, which are the mysteries to God's kingdom of heaven to only the disciples in private session among only them:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


Even when Jesus came among the Jews, all of them (except the twelve disciples) were given parables which were not intended to deliver the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are 'truth'. Only the disciples got 'truth'. The remaining Jews were simply not yet given by God to get truth. They all got parables which were not intended to deliver 'truth'.

'truth' are the instructions on:
1. what is the required actualization to be given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven,
2. how to acquire the above actualization and
3. how (i.e. by what action/lifestyle) to actually go about inheriting God's kingdom of heaven.

'Truth' is another thing. 'Truth' related to things that come from God, through the Spirit of Jesus.

'truth' are simply the instruction by which one come to get 'Truth'. Physically written and physically spoken scriptures can only deliver 'truth'.

'Truth', which makes one and keeps one a Christians and so saves and delivers humans, can come only through a direct intuitive connection between and from, the Spirit of Jesus, through one own heart/spirit. 'Truth' can never be found in any physically written or spoken scriptures.

Every individual must search his/her own heart/spirit to come to know 'Truth'. God has a uniquely different "Truth" for each person. This makes what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, unique for each person.
 
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The old (O.T.) system is anchored in collective (one rule fit all) management.

The old (O.T.) system is anchored in collective (one rule fit all) management.

The old (O.T.) system is anchored in collective (one rule fit all) management. This is how animal are managed and guided. Animal all respond to fixed generalized instruction and guidance through instincts. They all respond collectively in the same way. Any animal herder knows this fact and uses it to manage their animal flocks.

The above is what the Old status quo (who ruled the recently ended Dark Age) on earth, has been using on humans (i.e. for the past 2000 odd years). This will not work in the recently dawned Age of Enlightenment in Christ, on the surface of earth. Those old rulers and leader (and their flocks) are done-away-with. They are out-of-relevance on the surface of earth. Soon they will all be totally out-of-here.

The generations of Abraham were given the past 2000 odd years, in which they were given, one life on earth to rise out of their animal (animal herding) conditioning and into human spirit and Spirit based (individualized) conditioning. The past 2000 odd years were given for the generations of Abraham to make this transformation. This opportunity has now come to a close. Now only those who have actually made the transformation will be permitted on the surface of earth.

During the past 2000 odd years, humans were required to rise out of this animal instinct, which is (a back in time memory) stored in each of our human genome. Humans were required to rise out of this old (back in time animal) genome, in order to graduate into true humans status, according to our other higher genome.

Our true humans status is anchored in individuality which is directly linked to our own human spirits, which are inherently individualized. Our own spirits is our only bridge to Sainthood and Angel-hood. Things of Sainthood and Angel-hood are things of God and His kingdom of heaven, as it relates to humans.

Animal is backwards evolution. Sainthood and Angel-hood is forward, evolution.

Humans are on earth, in this life time to rise above (and out of) their animal genome so as to own their authentic higher human (spiritual angelic) genome and so be privy, to individualized guidance through Christianity. To be a Christians/Saint is to be an angel on earth, in a physical body.

Generalize laws like the ten commandments and similar others destroy (killeth) ones capacity to become spiritually aware and so to become authentic humans at the higher level. Generalize laws like the ten commandments and similar others, keeps one in animal consciousness (i.e. according to lower level of one's inherent genome).

Generalize laws like the ten commandments and similar others, keeps one stuck in their lower level genome. People who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the Ten Commandments and similar other ideals and laws keep their higher level genome in a dormant state. They are literally choosing to remain in animal consciousness. They have not shake-out their instinct to be herded like animals. They are not yet ready to stand on their own (according to their own spirit) and to do their own individual spirit thing, in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Jesus came to aid human onto this divine path. Jesus came to aid human into coming off their animal orientation and into a Saint/Angel orientation.

The passage from animal conditioning to human conditioning will enable one to become a Saint/Christians. The passage to this rise in humans consciousness starts with becoming 'converted'. This is to awaken to/become aware of, one's own spirit which, in humans, are inherently individualized. Then one can access and be led by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. This will complete the passage from animal consciousness (i.e. being 'the dead') to Christian/Saint/Angel consciousness.

Animals do not have an individualized spirit. They have led instinctively by fixed generalized laws which applies to all of them (collectively) in the sam way, at all times. This is why animals move in herds, in response to all their stimuli.

On the other hand, humans have individual free will to respond individually to their stimuli. However human must own this right which is the anchor of free will.

Humans are on earth to elevate them selves to actual human status by growing to over ride their need for collective generalized management and guidance. All humans are here (on earth, in this life time) to become aware of their inherent individuality (i.e. by becoming aware of their inherit spirits) and then rise to seek and obtain divine individualized guidance for themselves (by serving in the newness of spirit).

The sad and unfortunate fact is that people who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote fixed generalized laws like the ten commandments have not graduated out of animal conditioning. They are not yet into humans conditioning, although they are in human physical bodies.

Humans are on earth to graduate out of their animal (generalized/'one law fit all'/physical) conditioning and into human (individualized/spirit based) conditioning. This can also be said as follows: Humans are here on earth, in this life time, to learn to and actually, soweth to spirit in harmony with Spirit (as humans are given to do) and not to soweth to flesh (as animal are given to do):

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


For the generations of Abraham, their current life on earth is given for each of them to leave behind their animal collective (one law fit all) conditioning and come into authentic human individualized spirit and Spirit conditioning.

The generations of Abraham are given this one current life on earth, to loose their entanglement with animal conditioning and instead become entangled with Saint/Angel human conditioning. The choice is theirs, individually. This is forward growth in evolution.

If they do not make this transformation in consciousness, in their current life time, they are doomed to backward growth, in evolution.

Many unawares, foolish, self-righteous, false prophets have been actively derailing billions off their divine purpose on earth, in their one life on earth. Please do not let this continue to be your circumstance.
 
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Gurucam

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Some people claim that the earth will become two different earths.

Some people claim that the earth will become two different earths.

Some people claim (quite scientifically and/or confidently) that the earth will become two different earths.

Click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ucn3Xswv4Q

One earth will remain three dimensional (within the limits and confines of the generalized and seemingly fixed and predictable laws of physicality).

Another earth will be five dimensional (i.e. encompassing and be anchored on the added dimension of spirit, which transcend space/time. This one will be anchored on the probabilistic laws of spirituality which are the laws of Quantum Mechanics.

The above link is given simply to expand your ideas. I do not endorse it. The Holy KJV N.T. should always remain your primary source for validating truth.

I suspect that the increased knowledge which I am sharing with you all (now in the fullness of time) are derived directly from the Spirit of Jesus through my ability to transcend space/time. That is, I am able to get the actual message which Jesus confirmed 2000 odd years ago, through direct communion with Jesus as he delivered them 2000 odd years ago. This is achieve intuitively through my own heart/spirit.

I cannot validate or deny, the things in the video link. They may be valid. I do not accept the idea of 'E.T.' etc..

However, a transformation of the surface of earth, is well on the way.

According to the Holy KJV N.,T., the total and final separation will (at least) be as follows:

People of the O.T. will inherit the old earth. This earth will continue to be conformed to hell.

On the other hand people of the N.T. (i.e. Spirit and Spirit) will inherit the other earth. The New earth. This earth will be conformed to God's kingdom, as it is in spirit heaven.

What ever the method of separation, the underlying truth is that there will be a separation. And this will be a total and final separation of O.T. people from N.T. people. The former (i.e. O.T. people) will inherit a hellish life in a hellish 'earth' and the latter (i.e. N.T. people) will inherit a heavenly life, in a heavenly 'earth'.

The hellish earth may be within the depths of this earth. While the surface of this earth will eventually be conformed to God's kingdom, as it is in spirit heaven.

These are final advisories.
 
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Gurucam

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Jesus returned 2000 odd years ago in His Spirit, as the Spirit of truth:

Jesus returned 2000 odd years ago in His Spirit, as the Spirit of truth:

Jesus returned 2000 odd years ago in His Spirit, as the Spirit of truth. This was the second coming of Jesus. The return of Jesus is a done deal. This is the Spirit that was promised to Abraham, by God. It is signed, sealed and delivered . . . a totally done deal. No physical Jesus was promised and no physical Jesus will be forthcoming. The physical Jesus was simply a one time, temporal sign, for the Spirit Jesus, Who is actually the Lord.

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.


In the above the physical Jesus said that he will return "in the glory of his Father". The Father is a Spirit.

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


To return in the glory of the Father is to return in a Spirit.

The above also say, "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.". This conveys that Jesus will return before some of those people die.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


In the above the physical Jesus indicate that it is expedient that he go away so that the Spirit of Truth will come. Fact is Jesus is the truth. Therefore the Spirit of truth is the Spirit of Jesus:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Therefore the above say that the Jesus had to give-up his physical body, so as to return clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit of truth.

Jesus' second coming was Jesus clad only in His Spirit body (i.e. like the Father) as the Spirit of the Son of God who is also the Spirit of Jesus, the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession (all in one). And Jesus returned (clad only in His Spirit body), soon after his physical death. That is, Jesus returned before some of those people died. This was some 2000 odd years ago.

Therefore Jesus' return (i.e. his second coming) is a done deal. This was done 2000 odd years ago. Jesus returned in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God form, as the Spirit of truth and Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians.

Sin Jesus return as the Spirit of Jesus, He has been making intercession on behalf of Christians/Saints, with the Holy Spirit.

Those who did not 'catch' the above truth, and achieve live communion with the Spirit of Jesus are lost souls. Also they cannot actually and truthfully confess with their mouth that Jesus rose to heaven. They simply will not know for a fact that Jesus rose to heaven when he died, because Jesus rose to spirit heaven clad only in His Spirit body. Also they will not know the Lord Jesus who (since 2000 odd years ago) can be known only as a Spirit:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Romans: 8 kjv n.t.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


The above tell us that, since 2000 odd years ago, Jesus is the Lord for Christians. He resides in spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body. In that Spirit only form and form spirit heaven, Jesus is ready willing and able to make intercession for Saints/Christians according to the Will/Spirit of God.

No one comes onto God without going through Jesus. No one comes onto the Holy Spirit without going through the Spirit of Jesus.

One who has not search one's own heart/spirit and achieved live communion with Jesus as the Spirit of truth and Lord in spirit heaven, cannot make a mouth confession that God raised Jesus to spirit heaven after his death. They would not know this for a fact. They would simply be parroting a slogan which counts for nothing.

The guidance and instruction are a follows:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he i.e. the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) maketh intercession for the saints according to the will/Spirit of God.


When one actually and successfully search one's own heart/spirit and discerns what the the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, one will actually know that God raised Jesus to spirit heaven after his physical death. Only these people (who are a chosen few) can make an authentic confession with their mouths, that God raised Jesus (to spirit heaven) from his dead body, after he physically died.

Everyone else who makes that mouth confession is simply parroting a slogan and this counts for nothing. That confession must be made from actually knowing the truth intuitively. To know intuitively is to 'believe in one's heart'.

Since 2000 odd years ago, Jesus returned as the Spirit of Truth and Lord, for aspiring Christians and Christians. This was and is, the second coming of Jesus:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 Now (i.e. since 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
 
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