The Order of Salvation

Robert Pate

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Both of you believe in Salvation by what the sinner does. Dont you teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost and condemned until they do something ? Yes or No ?

Poor blind fool does not understand.

What God has done in Jesus Christ he did openly so that ALL could hear and believe.
 

Robert Pate

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Huh, false teaching, Col 2:10 says nothing of that !

Poor blind fool can't understand scripture.

"And you are complete in Jesus Christ" Colossians 2:10.

In Jesus Christ the law has been fulfilled and abolished, Matthew 5:18.

In Jesus Christ all sin has been atoned for, 1 John 2:2.

WE ARE COMPLETE IN HIM.
 

beloved57

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Poor blind fool can't understand scripture.

"And you are complete in Jesus Christ" Colossians 2:10.

In Jesus Christ the law has been fulfilled and abolished, Matthew 5:18.

In Jesus Christ all sin has been atoned for, 1 John 2:2.

WE ARE COMPLETE IN HIM.

You teach and believe that those Christ died for and made complete, perfect are still lost and condemned !
 

Robert Pate

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You teach and believe that those Christ died for and made complete, perfect are still lost and condemned !

Only poor blind fools such as yourself, that have rejected God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided by Jesus Christ, Hebrews 2:9.
 

beloved57

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No, you teach that Christ death is worthless.

If you have been predestinated to be saved before the foundation of the world, then who needs Jesus Christ?

Yes, you teach sinners Christ died for are still lost and condemned, so thats saying His Death is worthless!
 

Robert Pate

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Your position is tbe death of Christ is ineffective!

Poor blind fool does not believe that Jesus has victoriously defeated, sin, death and the devil.

"And having spoiled principalities and power (the devil) he made a show of them openly" Colossians 2:15.

"Jesus is Lord" and he is Lord over ALL THINGS, Colossians 1:20.

Now, you are without an excuse.
 

beloved57

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Poor blind fool does not believe that Jesus has victoriously defeated, sin, death and the devil.

"And having spoiled principalities and power (the devil) he made a show of them openly" Colossians 2:15.

"Jesus is Lord" and he is Lord over ALL THINGS, Colossians 1:20.

Now, you are without an excuse.

You are an enemy to the death of Christ teaching that sinners He died for are lost and condemned.
 

Robert Pate

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You are an enemy to the death of Christ teaching that sinners He died for are lost and condemned.

Poor blind fool thinks that Jesus only died for some certain persons. Scripture plainly says...

"God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.

Poor blind fool thinks the world just means him.
 

heir

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Poor blind fool thinks that Jesus only died for some certain persons. Scripture plainly says...

"God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.

Poor blind fool thinks the world just means him.
Paul writes this second sending due time truth late into his ministry

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

The Calvinist at best is one who refuses to 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV.
 

heir

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The Order of Salvation
"The order of salvation" pertaining to whom Paul was sent was first Jews and Greeks straightway out of the gates of his salvation in Acts 9 and later an all men inclusion sending after the remnant according to the election of grace which God foreknew had been gathered.
 

heir

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Nobody can do the works of Trusting and Believing and please God unless they are Born of God Rom. 8:8!
Neither trusting or believing are works. Works are of the law (Galatians 3:2 KJV). Salvation is unto all in the dispensation of the grace of God without exception as God will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth (1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV).
 

beloved57

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Poor blind fool thinks that Jesus only died for some certain persons. Scripture plainly says...

"God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.

Poor blind fool thinks the world just means him.

You don't believe in Christ because you teach that sinners He died for are lost.
 
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