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    Quote Originally Posted by assuranceagent View Post

    If I were to read anything into it, it'd be fear for safety. Which may ultimately end up having the effect of encouraging vigilantiism.
    My thoughts exactly - and giving in to the terrorists tends to promote futher acts of terrorism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by assuranceagent View Post
    I'm in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin View Post
    they're fearful for other retribution. Didn't the suspected killer say that there were plans of more retaliation to the clinic and others around the country?
    I haven't heard that. Not that it would surprise me. Do you know for a fact that was stated by Mr. Roeder?

    And I can't honestly understand how you all can claim this as being anything remotely positive. A man is murdered and his family is afraid of further attacks and must close down their livelihood. Even if you are pro-life, the ends don't justify the means here.
    Who said the ends justify the means?

    The "means" was wrong, Tiller was murdered and that is wrong.

    However, good things can and do come from tragic events. That doesn't justify the means but it does describe the situation we are in. No babies will be brutally murdered by "Dr" Tiller in that "clinic" anymore and that is a good thing, even though it came about in a tragic way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin View Post
    And I can't honestly understand how you all can claim this as being anything remotely positive.
    You'd get it if you had another perspective, say that of a late term infant whose odds of making it to full term just went up.
    A man is murdered and his family is afraid of further attacks and must close down their livelihood.
    A professional hit man is killed and his family looses the income. Are you as concerned?
    Even if you are pro-life, the ends don't justify the means here.
    You must assume an immoral means when you make that statement. That is, an immoral act is not justified though it results in a moral end. Many feel that way about war. Do you? And though I am a rule of law man, I'd say the point is debatable. Fool certainly seems to think it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    I haven't heard that. Not that it would surprise me. Do you know for a fact that was stated by Mr. Roeder?

    Who said the ends justify the means?

    The "means" was wrong, Tiller was murdered and that is wrong.

    However, good things can and do come from tragic events. That doesn't justify the means but it does describe the situation we are in. No babies will be brutally murdered by "Dr" Tiller in that "clinic" anymore and that is a good thing, even though it came about in a tragic way.

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    I am glad he is gone.

    I just wish somebody didn't murder him to handle it, disobeying the commands in Romans 12 and 13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin View Post
    they're fearful for other retribution. Didn't the suspected killer say that there were plans of more retaliation to the clinic and others around the country?

    And I can't honestly understand how you all can claim this as being anything remotely positive. A man is murdered and his family is afraid of further attacks and must close down their livelihood. Even if you are pro-life, the ends don't justify the means here.
    Yay!

    Kill more abortionists!

    Kill the women who abort their babies, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by koban View Post
    Yay!

    Kill more abortionists!

    Kill the women who abort their babies, too!
    Why stop there - let's go abort the fetuses that will grow up to be abortionists and women who have abortions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by koban View Post
    Yay!

    Kill more abortionists!

    Kill the women who abort their babies, too!
    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher1984 View Post
    Why stop there - let's go abort the fetuses that will grow up to be abortionists and women who have abortions!
    Koban. Are you trying to be as dumb as Punisher or is this whole sideshow just an attempt to entertain yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin View Post
    they're fearful for other retribution. Didn't the suspected killer say that there were plans of more retaliation to the clinic and others around the country?

    And I can't honestly understand how you all can claim this as being anything remotely positive. A man is murdered and his family is afraid of further attacks and must close down their livelihood. Even if you are pro-life, the ends don't justify the means here.
    His likelihood was an atrocity! Yes, the killer did wrong and it reflects poorly on pro-life advocates. That is true; however, the business was so foul that I would think they were duplicitous in their own loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Koban. Are you trying to be as dumb as Punisher or is this whole sideshow just an attempt to entertain yourself?


    Nope. Abortionists are murderers of the innocent and the helpless.

    They should die.

    The women who bring their unborn babies to be murdered are worse.

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    The irony of all this is that George Tiller's killer will probably get the death penalty, will live on the goverment's dime in death row into his old age, and then will be granted the kind of painless, assisted death that a good share of suffering, terminally ill people could only dream of having. Life never ceases to be amusing, especially when it comes to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revelation View Post
    The irony of all this is that George Tiller's killer will probably get the death penalty, will live on the goverment's dime in death row into his old age, and then will be granted the kind of painless, assisted death that a good share of suffering, terminally ill people could only dream of having. Life never ceases to be amusing, especially when it comes to death.
    Actually he's not eligible for the death penalty under Kansas state law.

    And Knight, to answer a question of yours, Roeder did claim more violence like his was coming. Whether or not he actually knows this for a fact or was just shooting his mouth off (as I suspect) is tricky to determine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granite View Post
    And Knight, to answer a question of yours, Roeder did claim more violence like his was coming. Whether or not he actually knows this for a fact or was just shooting his mouth off (as I suspect) is tricky to determine.
    I hadn't heard that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    I hadn't heard that.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090607/...rtion_shooting

    Again, this strikes me as bluster and just talk.
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