This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

Town Heretic said:

Isn't it like suggesting that if Christianity was truly about loving our neighbor and following the example of Christ in gratitude it wouldn't have nearly destroyed Europe? I'm not a particular fan of socialism, but it seems to me you're confusing the gun with the man who holds it and his purpose.

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So is it your intention to make a case for socialism counselor? Name one socialist nation that has not ended badly, or is currently a human rights nightmare for it's citizens? Socialism is a failed form of governance, and there is plenty of history to back that up. Socialism is nothing more than a utopian idea that is destined to fail because of human nature alone i.e...greed, power, violence amongst other human characteristics which are always overlooked, or did you think the human race is somehow evolved beyond it's sinful nature, and is now somehow inherently good?

rocketman said:

So is it your intention to make a case for socialism counselor?

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No, whatever it is you do for a living (engineer?), I've been on the record for a long time saying that I believe socialism can be outperformed by a market economy. I think history bears it out. I also think that without some restraint it's about as immoral an institution as you could have. We're failing to restrain the worst lessons and impulses these days, there's too little noblesse oblige on hand despite the efforts of a handful of captains, and we cover corporate greed with the invented virtue of the stock holder obligation, putting a little guy layer of paint over a pitted husk. I think that's why we have a real rise in socialism among the young.

Name one socialist nation that has not ended badly, or is currently a human rights nightmare for it's citizens?

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France appears to be doing well enough. Maybe not. As it's not really my argument I don't invest in it. But then, how well is our country doing for the average Joe these days? The middle class is being squeezed into nonexistence by the upper class, who more and more consider themselves internationalists. Leaving the country over taxes would have been a source of shame a few generations ago, when the rich were paying more taxes. Today it's a headline.

Socialism is a failed form of governance, and there is plenty of history to back that up. Socialism is nothing more than a utopian idea that is destined to fail because of human nature alone i.e...greed, power, violence amongst other human characteristics which are always overlooked, or did you think the human race is somehow evolved beyond it's sinful nature, and is now somehow inherently good?

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No, I think that's about right as sums go. Socialism is moral in intention, but fails to recognize the inherent and strident immorality in man. Worse, it fails to understand that you can harness some of that lesser impulse to do more actual good.

ok doser said:

i can answer this one, directly and clearly and without trying to be "clever" or "witty" or obfuscative or avoidant

i would tell Him i am undeserving of heaven, that i am as filthy rags

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Christ was often clever in answering people with an intention focused on something other than an honest answer.

He, not you, is my example. And it isn't what we are that gains heaven, it's what Christ is and what that does to us before God.

The Artifacts of White Supremacy


Robed Klansmen at the christening of the smallest Klansman, Wm. Stanley, 8 weeks old | Library of Congress

Exalted Cyclops:
"Who can look upon a multitude of white robed Klansmen without thinking of the equality and unselfishness of that throng of white robed saints in the Glory Land? May the God in Heaven, Who looks not upon outward appearance, but upon the heart, find every Klansman worthy of the robe and mask that he wears. Then when we ‘do the things we teach’ and ‘live the lives we preach,’ the title of Klansman will be the most honorable title among men."


A group of Ku Klux Klan members burning a cross in Knoxville, Tennessee. September 4, 1948. | Library of Congress


Before shipping off a robe, Ms. Ruth holds it close to her heart and asks God for blessings on the individual who will wear it | Anthony Karen, “Aryan Outfitters”


A child wears a white Klan robe made by Ms. Ruth | Anthony Karen, “Aryan Outfitters”

Once again Nick tries to change the direction of the thread. Sad!!

annabenedetti said:

The Artifacts of White Supremacy

Robed Klansmen at the christening of the smallest Klansman, Wm. Stanley, 8 weeks old | Library of Congress

Exalted Cyclops:
"Who can look upon a multitude of white robed Klansmen without thinking of the equality and unselfishness of that throng of white robed saints in the Glory Land? May the God in Heaven, Who looks not upon outward appearance, but upon the heart, find every Klansman worthy of the robe and mask that he wears. Then when we ‘do the things we teach’ and ‘live the lives we preach,’ the title of Klansman will be the most honorable title among men."

A group of Ku Klux Klan members burning a cross in Knoxville, Tennessee. September 4, 1948. | Library of Congress

Before shipping off a robe, Ms. Ruth holds it close to her heart and asks God for blessings on the individual who will wear it | Anthony Karen, “Aryan Outfitters”

A child wears a white Klan robe made by Ms. Ruth | Anthony Karen, “Aryan Outfitters”

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Sad, tragic, and far from merely a Southern problem too, which is doubly sad.

Town Heretic said:

Sad, tragic, and far from merely a Southern problem too, which is doubly sad.

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It tells the story of generational transmission. We got from the black and white photos of last century to the color photos of this century because the idea of white supremacy has been handed down to each succeeding generation.

ClimateSanity said:

If God did ask you why he should let you into heaven, what would you tell him?

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You didn't get a straight answer. There's a reason for that.

Klansmen gathered around an altar with an American flag at a meeting of nearly 30,000 Ku Klux Klan members from Chicago and northern Illinois | Public Domain via Wikimedia Commons.


Artifacts of White Supremacy

Artifacts signal (and often embody) the racist ideology of the Klan, along with their particular brand of Protestantism and nationalism. Robes, fiery crosses, and even the American flag were all material objects employed by the 1920s Klan to convey their “gospel” of white supremacy. The Klan’s religious nationalism, its vision of a white Protestant America, became tangible in each of these artifacts, and each artifact reflected the order’s religious and racial intolerance. Nationalism (or “100% Americanism”), Protestant Christianity, and white supremacy became inextricably linked in these material objects. Examining the historical artifacts of white supremacy helps us to better understand how white supremacy manifests today and might also help us better identify and analyze the presence and effect of racism in American life and politics.

Nick M said:

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The Brit at 1:00 is exactly what he and most Brits have been made to be, and what the globalists need them to be (and want us to be).

This also has to be satire. She can't be that stupid, she'd forget how to breathe.

annabenedetti said:

The Artifacts of White Supremacy

Robed Klansmen at the christening of the smallest Klansman, Wm. Stanley, 8 weeks old | Library of Congress

Exalted Cyclops:
"Who can look upon a multitude of white robed Klansmen without thinking of the equality and unselfishness of that throng of white robed saints in the Glory Land? May the God in Heaven, Who looks not upon outward appearance, but upon the heart, find every Klansman worthy of the robe and mask that he wears. Then when we ‘do the things we teach’ and ‘live the lives we preach,’ the title of Klansman will be the most honorable title among men."

A group of Ku Klux Klan members burning a cross in Knoxville, Tennessee. September 4, 1948. | Library of Congress

Before shipping off a robe, Ms. Ruth holds it close to her heart and asks God for blessings on the individual who will wear it | Anthony Karen, “Aryan Outfitters”

A child wears a white Klan robe made by Ms. Ruth | Anthony Karen, “Aryan Outfitters”

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Town Heretic said:

Sad, tragic, and far from merely a Southern problem too, which is doubly sad.

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annabenedetti said:

It tells the story of generational transmission. We got from the black and white photos of last century to the color photos of this century because the idea of white supremacy has been handed down to each succeeding generation.

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It also clearly shows how the Klan's Christian faith was an integral part of their Klan identity.

Do I think all Christians are represented by the Klan? No.

But then, neither do I think all Muslims are represented by ISIS.

musterion said:

You didn't get a straight answer.

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Depends on your reading comprehension. I don't believe that anyone is confused who doesn't mean to be.

There's a reason for that.

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Well, there's a reason for what you're attempting.

My witness is on record and goes back a ways. I spent a lot of my early time here taking on the mockers who dropped by a Christian site where they assumed they'd run into people who couldn't rationally defend the faith. I put them on notice the way I do those who try to use the faith as an instrument of their personal issues. That list includes you now, I suppose. And that's a shame, must.

When you do this you bear the least courageous form of false witness.

Fool will likely remember a thread, since pruned, where I recounted my conversion and conviction.

What CS was after wasn't an honest answer. I met him as my example met people like him. If that bothers you then you have a bigger issue than curiosity.

HighCherub said:

People are alarmed by the fact that it only takes half the amount of white people than any other color to make a wave- white people are a force to be reckoned with, you see, whereas popular culture makes them out to look like wimps and pushovers.

Seriously, if you're white, it doesn't do you any good to sit their pretending to be some hero for other races. It went out of style a decade a go to be a clown getting held hostage by minorities to exonerate yourself for being white.

lain: That's pretty damn pathetic dude

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Crucible, you won't find what you're looking for here.

HighCherub said:

People are alarmed by the fact that it only takes half the amount of white people than any other color to make a wave- white people are a force to be reckoned with, you see, whereas popular culture makes them out to look like wimps and pushovers.

Seriously, if you're white, it doesn't do you any good to sit their pretending to be some hero for other races. It went out of style a decade a go to be a clown getting held hostage by minorities to exonerate yourself for being white.

lain: That's pretty damn pathetic dude

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I hope you don't think white folks are inherently superior to everyone else.

HighCherub said:

White people are historically the most successful and dominant people on the planet- it's just against the rules to say it

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Certainly by historians, where the rule is accuracy. Off the top of my head there's the Aksumite Empire, lasted over a thousand years. Not many white guys in it. The Vedic's in India hit the 1000 year mark. Ditto on race. In fact, we're relative new comers to the empire/domination stage of things and by no stretch the longest lived. What Europeans did was figure out the best expansive use of gunpowder invented by the Chinese.

If you want a European dynasty you have to move fairly far down the list of longevity. The Greeks held one for fewer than 500 years. The Romans had a long run, in two acts. 450 years for the Republic. Augustus and the next leg was around 500 ish. And so on. The fact is that Empires are cultures and tend to begin in relatively small circumstances before spreading out, historically via military might. And that's where gunpowder comes into things...or are we making chit-chat?

It's 'racist' to say that people took the West, rule in every war, and, ironically, even ended slavery.

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No, but it's accurate to say the West built a lot of its empire by fashioning a particularly brutal form of slavery that it ended largely when the industrial revolution was making the practice unnecessary for most of the last great empire, the British. And Europe is a little lucky too. The Monguls could likely have taken her but providence interfered. The Moors did gobble a good bit of her for a very long time.

History is tricky. Dividing it by race is mostly a mistaken notion.

HighCherub said:

There's an apex to any species, you politically correct imbecile

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So, what's the apex of the human race?

Town Heretic said:

Fool will likely remember a thread, since pruned, where I recounted my conversion and conviction.

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I do.

From a guy who read assanges essay at gateway pundit who feels exactly as I do.....

The Deplorable SSIO1 says "No matter what anyone says, it's obvious Trump has raised the bar of expected Presidential performance for all following individuals, of whatever party. In level of activity thus far and meaningful results achieved, he's outperformed all previous presidents and set records for successors to emulate or surpass. If he ran right now for re-election he'd win hands down, and that's before the economic recovery REALLY begins to kick in later this year, and then go like gangbusters early next.

New respect for America overseas, an economy that's really beginning to hum, more people working only one job to pay their bills, threats to the country being addressed, energy independence now clearly attainable - all he needs is a Republican Senate and House to get behind him and the Democrat party will be nothing but a bad memory.

People vote their pocketbooks - whether they're the working class, or even the liberal elite snobs who take advantage of so many others to make their fortunes. An example of Democrat-party short-sightedness I saw earlier this week - a strategist told them they needed to start appealing to the "Panera Bread" crowd in an attempt to generate support funding and find a supportive base. This guy couldn't realize that their money is the most important thing on this planet to practically all effete liberals; they may hate this country, Conservatives, religious faith, the unborn, the Constitution and Bill of Rights - but they LOOOOOVE that money. Trump's policies, as much as they may despise him personally, are putting money into their pockets through business activity and investments/stock activity that is on the upswing. As long as they are wealthy enough to afford to be at Panera Bread every day for lunch, they're going to give lip service to Hillary and her like but they'll vote for the guy that keeps their wallets fat.

The Dems had better find some way-out left-fringe adherents who have decent money, or change their message and find out how to put even MORE money into those liberals' pockets - or they're done for. It's gonna be tough to beat Trump at generating economic activity that pays good wages, provides a steady stock market not given to drastic swings and remains on the general incline, and the like. Unless they can do as well or better - they're finished."

I wish I was that articulate.